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As ever and PR disasters continued

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AtIusvue · 07/12/2025 21:35

So Meghan lost her fathers number but is ringing round hospitals and will send a handwritten note, as per Sussex sources speaking through the Sun, the Telegraph and the Times.

I mean I have no idea, how it works with PR for very famous people, but surely there are scenarios they prep for?

Her dad is in his 80s, severely obese and has suffered ill health for years. You would think, there would be protocol in what to do should the worst happen.

That would include having up to date contact info. This isn’t something Meg would need to have/get involved with if she’s estranged, but surely ‘The Office of the DDOS’ would. Then engage in their set plan- whether that’s a public statement that this is a private affair or that contact has been made through the proper channels.

Whatever this is, it isn’t professional-it’s complete chaos.

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Thedom · 22/12/2025 09:53

a comment on the DM called it Archenotsowell !LOL.

lickingfingertastingfood · 22/12/2025 09:53

It's almost like they've shut up shop.

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RedTagAlan · 22/12/2025 09:54

This article from Feb 2024, Charity watch.

Archewell Foundation: CharityWatch Rating | CharityWatch

The stuff in here is a bit dated, but it does list who they gave money to in2021. And as PPs have mentioned, this is an eyecatcher. Quote :

I"n addition to grants, the Archewell Foundation reports paying $534,780 for “Fees for services (nonemployees)…Other.” Of this amount, it claims that $499,954 consisted of program-related expenses and $34,826 consisted of management and general-related expenses. Breakouts of fees paid to independent contractors for the year include $180,524 to Invisible Hand, LLC; $127,807 to Herlihy Loughran; and $120,000 to Jiore Craig, all reportedly for “Programmatic Strategic Support.”"

The bit I bolded above, I picked that because it's an LLC. . lets have a look.

Invisible Hand

Quote :" Invisible Hand is a strategic and creative partner for the world’s most influential brands, institutions, and individuals."

Brand management/ PR basically. It's list of services reads like a page from a corporate talk spoof article.

That list has got my interest. Let's look more.

Herlihy Loughran, from her site :"Herlihy Loughran is an advisory partnership that links influential people and organisations to good causes, bringing ideas to life and turning intention into real, purposeful action."

Home - Herlou

Jiore Craig Her website is linked below. I can't figure out what she does.

Jiore Craig

So in 2022, that was $428,331 in fees for " influencer brand management" ?

The charity watch report also says : " One red flag CharityWatch identified in the charity’s expense reporting for 2022 is $0 reported fundraising expenses. It costs money to raise money, so a charity reporting that it spent nothing to raise over $2 million in contributions heightens the suspicion that it may not be allocating its expenses correctly. The value of the time a staff member spends soliciting donations is a fundraising expense, for example, as are general office expenses incurred to do so, such as telephone, supplies, and any fundraising event costs. It is extremely rare for a charity to be able to raise significant donations without spending even one penny to do so."

Please allow me to rant a little :-)

So the self made entrepreneur, business leader, womens leader, inspiration to all, a shining example to civilisation in general.... actually just took money that other people had donated, and paid others to create " her brand".

FFS.

But hey, they all have nice websites I suppose. Sort of. The web designers must really struggle keeping a straight face when writing all that baloney.

:-)

Archewell Foundation: CharityWatch Rating | CharityWatch

Read about Archewell Foundation: CharityWatch Rating

https://blog.charitywatch.org/archewell-foundation-charitywatch-rating/

Thedom · 22/12/2025 09:55

lickingfingertastingfood · 22/12/2025 09:53

It's almost like they've shut up shop.

That’s it ? Just a landing page ?

RedTagAlan · 22/12/2025 10:00

Thedom · 22/12/2025 09:55

That’s it ? Just a landing page ?

Their site is not working for me either. I just put it down to me still running win 7 :-)

JSMill · 22/12/2025 10:11

lickingfingertastingfood · 22/12/2025 09:53

It's almost like they've shut up shop.

Why is it always Prince Harry and Meghan, Duke and Duchess of Sussex. Before QEII died, Charles and Camilla were the D and D of Cornwall and Catherine and William were the D and D of Cambridge. No mention of prince. Is it American ignorance of the correct titles or M just wants to remind people she’s married to a prince?!

jeffgoldblum · 22/12/2025 10:14

JSMill · 22/12/2025 10:11

Why is it always Prince Harry and Meghan, Duke and Duchess of Sussex. Before QEII died, Charles and Camilla were the D and D of Cornwall and Catherine and William were the D and D of Cambridge. No mention of prince. Is it American ignorance of the correct titles or M just wants to remind people she’s married to a prince?!

Maximum exposure, maximum titles , maximum grandiosity!

Puzzledandpissedoff · 22/12/2025 10:28

I remember that dreadful interview with some big US network to launch this initiative when MM sat blethering on about her “suicidal ideation” caused by the BRF when pregnant with Archie - whilst next to the devastated suffering parents of young children who had taken their own lives

You're not alone in remembering that horror, @Jaffyyy; it ranked alongside the South African lady's experience as an example of it all being about H&M

I didn't know either that the Parents Network had gone, so now I guess we'll never know what professional expertise was on board to coveer such a difficult issue

JSMill · 22/12/2025 10:29

@jeffgoldblumI think you’re right.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 22/12/2025 10:38

Just musing, but with practically everything else gone I wonder what effect their new focus of "philanthropy" will have on the upcoming Invictus Games?

I used to hope it would be just one thing where they could make the event about others, but with a new "profile" to push it's hard not to wonder how likely that'll be this time

Lunde · 22/12/2025 10:47

RedTagAlan · 22/12/2025 09:54

This article from Feb 2024, Charity watch.

Archewell Foundation: CharityWatch Rating | CharityWatch

The stuff in here is a bit dated, but it does list who they gave money to in2021. And as PPs have mentioned, this is an eyecatcher. Quote :

I"n addition to grants, the Archewell Foundation reports paying $534,780 for “Fees for services (nonemployees)…Other.” Of this amount, it claims that $499,954 consisted of program-related expenses and $34,826 consisted of management and general-related expenses. Breakouts of fees paid to independent contractors for the year include $180,524 to Invisible Hand, LLC; $127,807 to Herlihy Loughran; and $120,000 to Jiore Craig, all reportedly for “Programmatic Strategic Support.”"

The bit I bolded above, I picked that because it's an LLC. . lets have a look.

Invisible Hand

Quote :" Invisible Hand is a strategic and creative partner for the world’s most influential brands, institutions, and individuals."

Brand management/ PR basically. It's list of services reads like a page from a corporate talk spoof article.

That list has got my interest. Let's look more.

Herlihy Loughran, from her site :"Herlihy Loughran is an advisory partnership that links influential people and organisations to good causes, bringing ideas to life and turning intention into real, purposeful action."

Home - Herlou

Jiore Craig Her website is linked below. I can't figure out what she does.

Jiore Craig

So in 2022, that was $428,331 in fees for " influencer brand management" ?

The charity watch report also says : " One red flag CharityWatch identified in the charity’s expense reporting for 2022 is $0 reported fundraising expenses. It costs money to raise money, so a charity reporting that it spent nothing to raise over $2 million in contributions heightens the suspicion that it may not be allocating its expenses correctly. The value of the time a staff member spends soliciting donations is a fundraising expense, for example, as are general office expenses incurred to do so, such as telephone, supplies, and any fundraising event costs. It is extremely rare for a charity to be able to raise significant donations without spending even one penny to do so."

Please allow me to rant a little :-)

So the self made entrepreneur, business leader, womens leader, inspiration to all, a shining example to civilisation in general.... actually just took money that other people had donated, and paid others to create " her brand".

FFS.

But hey, they all have nice websites I suppose. Sort of. The web designers must really struggle keeping a straight face when writing all that baloney.

:-)

It really has a charity MLM vibe where they all make money by selling goods and services to each other with a few small donations to established projects run by other charities

..... especially $400,000+ for " influencer brand management"

lickingfingertastingfood · 22/12/2025 11:04

It's all becoming clearer isn't it ? A few thousand chucked at various organisations , a big hoo ha in the media through association then a tailing off.

AsEverATwat · 22/12/2025 11:10

Someone on twitter found the trademark application for Archewell Philanthropies, it was submitted on 19 December 2025 so the status is still pending.

chunkyBoo · 22/12/2025 11:12

Jaffyyy · 21/12/2025 15:56

*“The Sussexes are nowhere near rich enough to be major philanthropists in their own right.

Nor do they have the platform and prestige of royal life anymore.

Nor do either of them have any real expertise in any specific area in which the foundation could specialise.”*

But in their own delusional and grandiose inflated egos……👀

… all with somebody else’s money, which they use and possibly one could say ‘abuse’ for their own gain

RedTagAlan · 22/12/2025 11:13

Lunde · 22/12/2025 10:47

It really has a charity MLM vibe where they all make money by selling goods and services to each other with a few small donations to established projects run by other charities

..... especially $400,000+ for " influencer brand management"

Yes indeed. And diving deeper just keeps giving.

From that 2021 report, "$127,807 to Herlihy Loughran", check the bio on her website about page.

About us - Herlou

"Before co-founding Herlihy Loughran, Beth was the acting Assistant Private Secretary to The Duchess of Sussex, which saw her organise the official programme and accompany The Duchess on engagements in the U.K., Africa, and North America.

Beth previously led the events team at The Royal Foundation of The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge and The Duke and Duchess of Sussex, bringing to life their charitable campaigns. She has a deep understanding of the charitable sector, particularly around conservation, disadvantaged young people, ex-Service personnel, and mental health."

And her business partner Clara:

"As Programme Manager to The Duke and Duchess of Sussex, she led a dynamic team responsible for the strategic planning and operational delivery of their official programme.

She constructed Prince Harry’s domestic programme of meetings and events, as well as significant international trips on behalf of the UK Government and his charities including to Australia, New Zealand, South Pacific, North and South America, Africa and Asia.

Clara helped launch and has worked on every Invictus Games since its inception in 2014. She was also part of the core team that delivered the Sussex’s Royal Wedding."

Now, fair enough that these folk decided to go self employed based on their experience etc blah blah, but the Sussexes were paying them with charity money.

That seems wrong to me.

About us - Herlou

About us BETH HERLIHY Co-Founder and Partner Beth’s background has been working with established leaders and HNWI’s, providing strategic advice for charitable engagement. Before co-founding Herlihy Loughran, Beth was the acting Assistant Private Secret...

https://herlou.com/about-us/

Mylovelygreendress · 22/12/2025 11:32

JSMill · 22/12/2025 10:11

Why is it always Prince Harry and Meghan, Duke and Duchess of Sussex. Before QEII died, Charles and Camilla were the D and D of Cornwall and Catherine and William were the D and D of Cambridge. No mention of prince. Is it American ignorance of the correct titles or M just wants to remind people she’s married to a prince?!

I always assumed it was so that Meghan could ensure her name was there independently (!) rather than being simply the wife of a Duke .

Mylovelygreendress · 22/12/2025 11:33

Thanks to @RedTagAlanfor all the very interesting information.

AutumnCrown · 22/12/2025 11:34

It’s also completely weird the way they’re trying to bring their kids into it - I mean for god’s sake, they’re 4 and 6, just let them be kids and let them decide what they want their future to be - @elessar

My reckon, for what it’s worth, is that Harry needs a commercial vehicle involving the children for a couple of reasons. 1. To pay school fees. 2. To funnel monies that ‘Pa’ has been guilt-tripped into sending for the children’s ‘security’ toward Harry’s wider ego-driven desires, by dressing it up as whole family ‘needs’ - aka paying for the armed convoys with which Harry is obsessed. (See also (1).)

In fact they can use the monies to pay toward the costs of everything involving the children, once they are turned into celebrity philanthropettes, from the house(s) in which they live, and the staff who look after them (nannies, tutors), to their activities.

It’s a very showbiz, Tinseltown model of being manager-parents. Even the accountants and tax specialists they use can come out of expenses.

BemusedAmerican · 22/12/2025 11:42

Kirk Sidley, the Sidley twin's father, is reviewing the 2024 Archewell report today. The twins will film and post his review. He's been waiting for it to be filled. Mr. Sidley is a knowledgeable and honest guy. It should be interesting to watch his comments.

AtIusvue · 22/12/2025 11:43

AsEverATwat · 22/12/2025 11:10

Someone on twitter found the trademark application for Archewell Philanthropies, it was submitted on 19 December 2025 so the status is still pending.

Wow

They really don’t know what the hell they are doing so they

There must be something that’s went dramatically wrong that they’ve let go of staff just before Xmas!

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AtIusvue · 22/12/2025 11:48

Also, if their aim is to expand their global impact….how the hell are you going to achieve that with 3 fewer staff? They only have two staff left.

Also rem, that they got rid of two PR guys, the Crown PR woman and I think two other members of their team in the summer.

They must be having catastrophic money problems.

I think the initial 10 million for the foundation was from NF. I also think when 2025s figures come out…..the 8 million thats left will be gone.
Because they wouldn’t be able to transfer foundation money over to their new venture and now they’ve got rid of most of the staff. There’s no money left.

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Gettingbysomehow · 22/12/2025 11:51

AtIusvue · 13/12/2025 19:34

From the Times

‘It is understood Meghan’s letter set out her feelings regarding her father’s decision to give several interviews to the media about their relationship.

Meghan is thought to believe his collusion with the media has been a major factor in the breakdown of their relationship and a key reason for why they are unlikely to ever reconcile. She has not received a reply to her letter, nor had any contact from her father since its delivery.’

So she used the letter to reach out to him to chastise him? What’s the point in that when he is in hospital?

He does do this nonsense all the time. Quite honestly it would piss me off if my parents did this. Im not famous so that wouldn't happen but even so. If he really cared about his daughter he wouldn't be in the mail whingeing non stop he'd just contact her quietly not via tabloids.
They are as bad as each other.

AsEverATwat · 22/12/2025 11:54

AtIusvue · 22/12/2025 11:43

Wow

They really don’t know what the hell they are doing so they

There must be something that’s went dramatically wrong that they’ve let go of staff just before Xmas!

I had completely forgot about the whole Riviera TM debacle 😂
The whole thing sounds dodgy.

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Mylovelygreendress · 22/12/2025 11:54

AutumnCrown · 22/12/2025 11:34

It’s also completely weird the way they’re trying to bring their kids into it - I mean for god’s sake, they’re 4 and 6, just let them be kids and let them decide what they want their future to be - @elessar

My reckon, for what it’s worth, is that Harry needs a commercial vehicle involving the children for a couple of reasons. 1. To pay school fees. 2. To funnel monies that ‘Pa’ has been guilt-tripped into sending for the children’s ‘security’ toward Harry’s wider ego-driven desires, by dressing it up as whole family ‘needs’ - aka paying for the armed convoys with which Harry is obsessed. (See also (1).)

In fact they can use the monies to pay toward the costs of everything involving the children, once they are turned into celebrity philanthropettes, from the house(s) in which they live, and the staff who look after them (nannies, tutors), to their activities.

It’s a very showbiz, Tinseltown model of being manager-parents. Even the accountants and tax specialists they use can come out of expenses.

Do you honestly think KC is helping to fund Harry ? Even with his enormous personal wealth it would be a huge undertaking given their lifestyle .

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