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As ever and PR disasters continued

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AtIusvue · 07/12/2025 21:35

So Meghan lost her fathers number but is ringing round hospitals and will send a handwritten note, as per Sussex sources speaking through the Sun, the Telegraph and the Times.

I mean I have no idea, how it works with PR for very famous people, but surely there are scenarios they prep for?

Her dad is in his 80s, severely obese and has suffered ill health for years. You would think, there would be protocol in what to do should the worst happen.

That would include having up to date contact info. This isn’t something Meg would need to have/get involved with if she’s estranged, but surely ‘The Office of the DDOS’ would. Then engage in their set plan- whether that’s a public statement that this is a private affair or that contact has been made through the proper channels.

Whatever this is, it isn’t professional-it’s complete chaos.

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lickingfingertastingfood · 21/12/2025 15:41

It's all very murky isn't it??

Jaffyyy · 21/12/2025 15:56

IcedPurple · 21/12/2025 14:56

I don't really get the foundation for the foundation, so to speak.

The Sussexes are nowhere near rich enough to be major philanthropists in their own right.

Nor do they have the platform and prestige of royal life anymore.

Nor do either of them have any real expertise in any specific area in which the foundation could specialise.

To me it's like they're playing at being 'philanthropists', but with none of the credentials needed to make a success of it. No wonder the 'foundation' has now been downgraded to some vague 'do good' organisation.

*“The Sussexes are nowhere near rich enough to be major philanthropists in their own right.

Nor do they have the platform and prestige of royal life anymore.

Nor do either of them have any real expertise in any specific area in which the foundation could specialise.”*

But in their own delusional and grandiose inflated egos……👀

RecoIIectionsMayVary · 21/12/2025 16:01

Jaffyyy · 21/12/2025 15:56

*“The Sussexes are nowhere near rich enough to be major philanthropists in their own right.

Nor do they have the platform and prestige of royal life anymore.

Nor do either of them have any real expertise in any specific area in which the foundation could specialise.”*

But in their own delusional and grandiose inflated egos……👀

But, but William...!

Lunde · 21/12/2025 16:03

AtIusvue · 21/12/2025 14:42

I mean what on earth have the spent 5 million in expenses, in one year on?

Staff members were on a salary of about 150k

They only gave out 1.25 million in grants.

I can’t even think of any projects Archewell is associated with….never mind it then costing 5 million to carry out!!!!

Sounds so dodgy.

I know Harry and Meghan don't take a salary but I wonder if they charge "expenses" for their Archewell events ... travel, hotels, outfits - possibly security?

Puzzledandpissedoff · 21/12/2025 16:07

bluegreygreen · 21/12/2025 14:10

The point about where certain donors will give was becoming an issue for Sentebale as well, if I remember correctly - it became part of the argument about clarity and governance.

It wasn't just Sentebale though, bluegreygreen. With the possible exception of Invictus (and there are now questions around even that) it's never been clear who enjoys ongoing benefit from any of their "charities" except themselves

Add the fact they've made themselves deeply unappealing to many and it's hard to see who'll give now, but never mind ... shorn of any oversight at all the lies will probably multiply

Benjithedog · 21/12/2025 16:10

AsEverATwat · 20/12/2025 22:52

Looks like the little kids are going to start earning their keep..

They are beyond insufferable

Miranda65 · 21/12/2025 16:23

RedTagAlan · 21/12/2025 07:08

I got my currencies mixed up re the heritage railway and the Sussexes. GBP v USD and all that. The North York Moors railway is 4 or 5 times bigger than the Sussexes.

Converting the last known tax return for the Sussex thing, 3 million USD after admin, convert to GB, gives a smidgin over 2 million quid.

A quick google, and that is about the same as a single cancer charity bike ride by Sir Chris Hoy.

And when we think of the news we see about fundraisers in general, there are charities being run from a kitchen table bigger than the Sussex fund. Although I am not applying that to Sir Chris here of course.

I am just trying to put things into perspective in my own mind here. Perception and vague claims v reality.

Sir Chris Hoy ‘overwhelmed’ as fundraising cycle ride raises over £2m | STV News

The initial Tour De 4, organised by Sir Chris Hoy, actually raised over £3 million. So that makes your point even more notable.

elessar · 21/12/2025 19:46

Lunde · 21/12/2025 16:03

I know Harry and Meghan don't take a salary but I wonder if they charge "expenses" for their Archewell events ... travel, hotels, outfits - possibly security?

Of course they do!

I bet Archewell has been used like their personal piggy bank.

As ever, the grandiose announcement of rebranding as a cover to try and hide the fact the foundation has utterly failed is so typical of them.

It’s also completely weird the way they’re trying to bring their kids into it - I mean for god’s sake, they’re 4 and 6, just let them be kids and let them decide what they want their future to be. For all Harry complained about how trapped he was in the RF with the rules determined for him, he’s now trying to force his kids to follow his life choices. It’s sad.

Serenster · 21/12/2025 21:35

Re-structurings are expensive undertakings. Legal filings, new branding on letterhead and all publications in use online, in hard copy and with partners. Contracts novated. All the admin of legally changing the name etc. Costs are a real consideration in undertaking this, especially for a charity that has only been around for 5 years. Given this, I presume there’s some underlying reason to change from using the term “Foundation” to “Philanthropies, other than they just wanted a new name?

Reasons I personally have come across for restructurings are:

The existing structure is too costly to maintain and the change will result in savings
The existing structure, as operated, no longer meets the legal or regulatory requirements of the structure and so a change is required
There has been a change of control (through say a merger or acquisition) and so thre change is needed to align to the new organisation
The owners want to take the organisation in an entirely new direction.

Interesting to ponder whether any of these are relevant here!

elessar · 22/12/2025 01:23

So according to this, 3 of their Archewell staff have been let go (just before Christmas, nice - really caring move that). H&M refer to this as “junior admin staff” but this article says one is their director of operations.

Aside from the pointlessness of the lies trying to minimise this and save face (it’s all about them as per), how insulting is this to their poor staff? Not only being fired because your bosses are so grossly incompetent they can’t manage a successful charitable enterprise but then to have your role minimised as basic admin. They’re so rude!
https://pagesix.com/2025/12/21/royal-family/prince-harry-and-meghan-markles-charity-loses-3-more-employees-report/

Prince Harry and Meghan Markle’s charity abruptly loses 3 more employees: report

On Saturday, the Daily Mail reported that the former staffers were let go over a week ago, including Kristen Slevin, the charity’s director of programs and operations.

https://pagesix.com/2025/12/21/royal-family/prince-harry-and-meghan-markles-charity-loses-3-more-employees-report/?utm_source=twitter&utm_social_handle_id=182107650&utm_social_post_id=629815882&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=pagesix

BoxingHares22 · 22/12/2025 04:43

Can someone explain to me what exactly they are doing that is charitable? I genuinely struggle to understand what all this philanthropy they speak of means in practice
aside from Harry’s charities in Africa which are mired in controversy, one of which he has stepped back from. It seems to me that all their efforts are self serving. Where does the money come from to run their operations with all these staff? What do these staff do all day I wonder?

I wish someone would make a documentary on their whole operation and what is really going on. What are these ‘grants’ and where do their donations come from? It’s all so bogus sounding.

BoxingHares22 · 22/12/2025 04:46

elessar · 21/12/2025 19:46

Of course they do!

I bet Archewell has been used like their personal piggy bank.

As ever, the grandiose announcement of rebranding as a cover to try and hide the fact the foundation has utterly failed is so typical of them.

It’s also completely weird the way they’re trying to bring their kids into it - I mean for god’s sake, they’re 4 and 6, just let them be kids and let them decide what they want their future to be. For all Harry complained about how trapped he was in the RF with the rules determined for him, he’s now trying to force his kids to follow his life choices. It’s sad.

They’re trying to create a copy of the RF I think. Their own quasi kingdom where A and L are being brought up to inherit the traditions they have created to mimic the system they supposedly deplore and which they fled to find ‘freedom’.

Thedom · 22/12/2025 06:41

I didn’t realise The Parents Network is also gone, since a few months, very quietly disbanded.

RecoIIectionsMayVary · 22/12/2025 06:49

Can someone explain to me what exactly they are doing that is charitable?

No, lol.

I don't think either of them realised that by leaving the RF they would, in relative terms, be poor.

Thedom · 22/12/2025 06:53

What about Archewell audio, is that also gone I wonder?

ThePoshUns · 22/12/2025 07:55

Thedom · 22/12/2025 06:41

I didn’t realise The Parents Network is also gone, since a few months, very quietly disbanded.

Wow that didn’t last long, as ever.

RedTagAlan · 22/12/2025 08:05

Having a look about the web, supporting Afghan women. Not directly I think, but with other organisations. Doing the important stuff, like cooking, story telling, photoshoots, ( Note the photo credits in first linked article below)

It's a good cause, But going from this 2024 article, it does seem to be for leaders only ?

Supporting Afghan women resettled in the US to build community and reconnect with their shared purpose (minaslist.org)

Quote from that article :

"During the event, the women shared their stories with Meghan, the Duchess of Sussex, who co-founded The Archewell Foundation with Prince Harry, the Duke of Sussex. Shahba Shahrukhi told the Duchess about her experience running for parliament in Afghanistan in 2018, having received training in campaigning skills from Mina’s List. Now based in Southern California, Ms. Shahrukhi is supporting other refugees as a caseworker for the Los Angeles International Rescue Committee."

I bolded that bit, because from what I can see, it's actually other organisations doing the stuff that really helps, and costs money. Jobs for example.

It looks like Archiewell was tagging it's self on.

And good stuff too. Because to paraphrase Frankie Boyle, what better way to spread democracy in the world than to put a Prince of the realm into a 50 million dollar helicopter and send him to one of the poorest countries in the world to machine gun brown people.

And if anyone thinks Frankie Boyle was in bad taste, lets not forget what Harry himself said.

Harry’s claim he killed 25 in Afghanistan draws anger, worry | AP News

Quote from above : "In his memoir, “Spare,” Harry says he killed more than two dozen Taliban militants while serving as an Apache helicopter copilot gunner in Afghanistan in 2012-2013. He writes that he feels neither satisfaction nor shame about his actions, and in the heat of battle regarded enemy combatants as pieces being removed from a chessboard, “Baddies eliminated before they could kill Goodies.”"

Royal reparations perhaps ? Sorry about the machine gun stuff. Come over the house and do some cooking.

But it did not last long anyway. They bailed from that in April 2025.

Muslim Women’s Coalition Responds to Archewell Foundation’s Public Withdrawal of Support, Reaffirms Commitment to Justice and Human Rights (cair.com)

It appears they bailed because some Afghan Muslim women were speaking out about Gaza ? Or was it because a rightwing Islamophobic group threatened to write a bad article about them ? I have no idea. But quote from above :

"Earlier this week, a rightwing, anti-Muslim and anti-Palestinian media outlet threatened to write a negative article about the Archewell Foundation’s decision to make two grants totaling $55,700 to support MWC’s Afghan Women’s Sewing Group and Support Circle project, which provides training and mental health support to Afghan refugees who are building new lives in America."

The bolded bit. An almost token sum in the big picture of things. But combine the 2 articles. Lets help and embolden Afghan women in the US... cooking and sewing.

Hey, these women fled from one of the misogynistic countries on earth, let's get them cook and sewing. They should enjoy that.

Supporting Afghan women resettled in the US to build community and reconnect with their shared purpose

https://www.minaslist.org/blog/supporting-afghan-women-resettled-in-the-us-to-build-community-and-reconnect-with-their-shared-purpose

Mylovelygreendress · 22/12/2025 08:23

Thedom · 22/12/2025 06:41

I didn’t realise The Parents Network is also gone, since a few months, very quietly disbanded.

I didn’t know that either! Any explanation?

Mylovelygreendress · 22/12/2025 08:25

Very interesting @RedTagAlan.

RedTagAlan · 22/12/2025 08:51

Mylovelygreendress · 22/12/2025 08:25

Very interesting @RedTagAlan.

Yes. They appear to tag onto existing things, contribute a token amount, and then claim the work other groups are doing as their own.

For sure, I am posting with a bit of bias against, but I think I would have trouble doing a positive spin.

$55,700 for a sewing group and support circle.

I must be totally out of touch with how things work, but would that not be more of a local community facebook thing ? Does anyone have spare stuff they can donate, looking for a hall we can use?

From my understanding, needle craft is a big thing in the USA, what with it's quilt making traditions.

Thedom · 22/12/2025 09:32

Mylovelygreendress · 22/12/2025 08:23

I didn’t know that either! Any explanation?

No valid explanation, supposedly ‘handed over’ to an organisation called Parents Together, which is a general parenting charity, very small it seems, doesn’t appear to be too healthy financially either, only 600k insta followers.

Jaffyyy · 22/12/2025 09:34

RedTagAlan · 22/12/2025 08:51

Yes. They appear to tag onto existing things, contribute a token amount, and then claim the work other groups are doing as their own.

For sure, I am posting with a bit of bias against, but I think I would have trouble doing a positive spin.

$55,700 for a sewing group and support circle.

I must be totally out of touch with how things work, but would that not be more of a local community facebook thing ? Does anyone have spare stuff they can donate, looking for a hall we can use?

From my understanding, needle craft is a big thing in the USA, what with it's quilt making traditions.

They appear to tag onto existing things, contribute a token amount, and then claim the work other groups are doing as their own.

Looks like the same MO for MM’s interaction with the BRF.

Jaffyyy · 22/12/2025 09:39

Thedom · 22/12/2025 09:32

No valid explanation, supposedly ‘handed over’ to an organisation called Parents Together, which is a general parenting charity, very small it seems, doesn’t appear to be too healthy financially either, only 600k insta followers.

That’s a terrible situation. I remember that dreadful interview with some big US network to launch this initiative when MM sat blethering on about her “suicidal ideation” caused by the BRF when pregnant with Archie - whilst next to the devastated suffering parents of young children who had taken their own lives. Wondering now how the timing of that launch initiative was scheduled to uplift the upcoming ARO / AE commercial efforts (even tho the timing for ARO / AE was subsequently shelved).

Thedom · 22/12/2025 09:50

Jaffyyy · 22/12/2025 09:39

That’s a terrible situation. I remember that dreadful interview with some big US network to launch this initiative when MM sat blethering on about her “suicidal ideation” caused by the BRF when pregnant with Archie - whilst next to the devastated suffering parents of young children who had taken their own lives. Wondering now how the timing of that launch initiative was scheduled to uplift the upcoming ARO / AE commercial efforts (even tho the timing for ARO / AE was subsequently shelved).

Oh gosh yes, one of the most uncomfortable interviews to watch, they were both irate and so livid, and apparently there was a big blowout between the producers andH&M afterwards, I just googled it, it was only 1 year ago. They really have no staying power despite all their money and influential ‘friends’ helping them out with PR.

lickingfingertastingfood · 22/12/2025 09:51

Has all the info from Archewell disappeared ? The links now take you straight into Archewell Philanthropies which contains very little information.

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