Thomas Markle very ill

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I've just read Thomas Markle is in hospital intensive care. He has been treated poorly by Meghan. I doubt if the pair will have anything to say about this. Though they've always plenty to say about a lot of things. Doubt they'll be rushing to his bedside.

She said lonely people. She don’t say some lonely people. She said lonely people. That is a blanket statement. This maybe your experience but isn’t mine and it certainly isn’t of my nursing friends who say quite the opposite

Do you know the age of my children or if I work?

For Thomas Markle to have no one but a journalist speaks volumes about who he has been.

Interestingly, people like to say Meghan is a terrible person because she can’t keep friends, but when it’s Thomas who has no friends, it’s not his fault. Lol.

The underlying point is sound though.

I did a bit of research on vascular dementia for family reasons. And I was interested to read that a person’s fundamental character doesn’t change as they age; in fact your essential characteristics become more apparent if anything.

So if you were a grumpy curmudgeon as a middle aged man, odds are that you become an even grumpier curmudgeon in old age.

Unfortunately people don’t suddenly transform in to angels after the age of seventy-five. They may become weak and vulnerable but by then the damage has been done to their spouses and offspring.

If some posters are arguing that MM was ashamed of her father and never intended him to walk her down the aisle, that would indicate that they had become estranged earlier surely? And in that case their problems were more profound than just the issues relating to the wedding?

I agree! , you have said it yourself, they are both awful people and it’s both their faults.

Yup

I’m sorry that you seem to be having issues with comprehension, but I said

Lonely people are usually lonely because they’re not pleasant people to be around.

Usually doesn’t mean always. If I’d have meant always I’d have said always or not included the word usually.

Let's continue

I’m sorry but I’m no way is Andrew relevant to this discussion!
are you seriously equating the crimes of Andrew to what Thomas markle has done??

Well here's your chance- are you his age? Don't work? Have moved to an area where you don't know anyone? Let's hear it.

No of course not. The poster is saying that people don’t automatically become benign lovable characters in old age or suddenly transform from hideous to angelic. And they used Andrew as a very apt case in point.

Harry himself said that both the late Queen and then PoW urged Meghan to fly over and see her father . She would have been accompanied by security and aides but she refused . She also refused the suggestion that aides were sent over to bring TM to the U.K.

Oh please there is nothing wrong in my comprehension. And yours seems to be pretty poor because other people have mentioned or called you out on it also.

Yes they used a very convenient whataboutery to make their point, which I might add is only their opinion and clearly not shared by everyone!

Well perhaps that suggests that the rift went deeper than we all knew at the time. I certainly would never judge someone for going no or low contact with a parent without knowing the full circumstances.

If they were estranged pre wedding why did she speak so glowingly about him ? Why did Harry phone him to ask him if he could marry Meghan ? Why did she speak lovingly about him in the engagement interview?

Yet it was announced that her father would walk her down the aisle !

They are.

However with my own children, who are older, I feel as the parent and the older ones in our relationship, that they have learned their core behaviours from us and that we have a responsibility to set an example, even now. I really couldn’t imagine selling photos of myself to the press to cash in on my children’s ‘fame’, I don’t think many of us would, even if our relationships were strained. Parents generally I have an inbuilt instinct to protect their children, even when they aren’t behaving how you might like them to.

Off on a slight tangent but someone we know has a famous adult child, he is in a band and got into some bad things, has very little contact with his parents, said a couple of unpleasant things about them which ended up in the public domain. His parents have been offered quite a lot of money to tell their side but they never have and never will because he is there son and they have that instinct to protect him. Whatever Meghan did, and I’m sure she’s not innocent of everything, Thomas has failed as a parent in my opinion.

Exactly Jeff.

Doesn’t his son live close by? Why’s he not as his bedside?

No need to post pictures of his noncy face in the thread. 🤢🤮

So you are not very interested in the story, or you would know the answer to this.

He is ! , he is his caregiver and has been with him the whole time! 🙄

Yes but others were trying to say earlier in the thread that MM was ashamed of her father and never invited him in the first place!

My own view is that Meghan never had any intention of having any family other than her mother . She went along with the Dad walking her down the aisle but was looking for an excuse . TM walked straight into a trap. It could all have been avoided had Harry met TM pre engagement and arranged for him to receive support.

He also did not receive an actual invitation which he wanted so he could frame it .