Thomas Markle very ill

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I've just read Thomas Markle is in hospital intensive care. He has been treated poorly by Meghan. I doubt if the pair will have anything to say about this. Though they've always plenty to say about a lot of things. Doubt they'll be rushing to his bedside.

“Meghan is thought to believe his collusion with the media has been a major factor in the breakdown of their relationship and a key reason for why they are unlikely to ever reconcile. “

Well I guess both H&M must appreciate it would be totally unreasonable to expect the RF to forgive or reconcile with them after their own (much more damaging) interviews with the media.

oh wait…

The hypocrisy of that couple knows no bounds !

I think this sentence sums up what is a horrible , sad situation.

I just heard on Times Radio that the most read story on their website is the exclusive story that M will never see her father again. Poor man. I wonder if KCIII and PW are watching this story and what they think about it. H is after reconciliation with his family but is apparently content with his dc’s other gf lying in a hospital in the Philipines, denied comfort from his dd or ever knowing his dgcs.

I understand what everyone is saying about hypocrisy and I agree that the situation is terribly sad BUT with a DM journalist in the hospital room, what exactly is MM supposed to do? Reconciliation works both ways. If TM wants to have a meeting with his daughter; he needs to ditch the journalist!

@Sleetandice533so you think if she said, dad I would love to see you but you need to ditch the journalist, he would choose the journalist?! If she offered to fly him home and let him recuperate at her luxurious mansion, I am sure it would be bye bye DM journalist. This journalist managed to wheedle her way in because M ghosted her df after his heart attack.

The journalist wheedled her way in because he let her. The infantilisation of a grown man on this thread is laughable.

That’s irrelevant because that option was never remotely on the table. Meghan has no intention of calling or visiting her father.

And the Sussexes were the one who leaked that the letter has been sent, and received, and who are now leaking about the contents.

not the journalist who was in the room when the letter arrived.

If Meghan wanted to speak to her father or see him without a journalist present there are plenty of options available to her. She managed to get the US embassy involved in delivering a flipping letter to him for god’s sake, do we really think they couldn’t coordinate setting up a phone call and ensuring nobody other than TM was in the room at the time?

Just imagine an adult son claiming a parent is somehow behind wanting him and his family dead

Prepare to be told "he didn't say that", @Thedom ... even the bit about history repeating itself could be said to refer to something else if it suited, and the usual plausible deniability and refusal to enlarge on the claim comes into play again

The bit about how they "signaled to every single government around the world not to protect us.” is a lot more precise though; I'd love to see him asked for proof of this, but of course he'll never put himself in that position

That’s not the point.

However genuine it is, or not, the journalist is somebody who has offered friendship and support to TM over the last 7 years.

From his daughter (who deleted his number after her wedding in 2018), he has had zero contact despite numerous health issues.

The option for him to choose Meghan over the journalist has never been on the table.

So what people are really saying is that he should cut off contact with this person who is purportedly a close friend of his, in the blind hope that at some point before he dies Meghan may be open to reconciliation, for which she has given no indication she has any intention.

The overwhelmingly likely outcome would simply be that he loses a relationship which gives him comfort, and still gets absolutely nothing from his daughter.

How did the RF signal to every other Government around the world not to protect him ?

I think he just means the downgrading from IPP status for security, which means that other governments don't have an obligation to pay for his security.

Again, though, this is Harry being melodramatic - it was RAVEC, not his family, and he knew it would happen in advance.

Archive link to DM story about Thomas Markle from the other thread:
https://archive.ph/r9jZ4

It does make clear that Meghan's team had his phone number for several days before he received the letter.

He should have thought about what talking to journalists could mean to his relationship with his daughter years ago. People are talking about him as if he’s a vulnerable child and it’s laughable. It says a lot that this man seems to have no one other than a journalist. Just because he is old and ill doesn’t mean we should all feel sorry for him. Lonely people are usually lonely because they’re not pleasant people to be around.

Well no they might not be able to coordinate that if TM is trying to make money by insisting a journalist is by his side at all times. We do not know what the situation is like in reality?

And I find it hard to believe as another poster suggests that the DM journalist is there out of the goodness of their heart, being a supportive friend!

He’s not a child, he’s a vulnerable 81 year old man in severely ill health.

And yes, maybe he should have thought about that, but equally, Meghan thinks it’s absolutely fine for her to spill “her truth” about hers and her husband’s familial relationships in the media, so why are there different rules for him?

I’ve never mentioned an invitation so I dont know what your talking about

There aren’t different rules. There are just the consequences that the people on the receiving end of your actions choose. If you go to the press like Thomas Markle has or Oprah or Netflix like Harry has, about your family, regardless of who was right or wrong in what you talk about, don’t expect them to necessarily forgive you and welcome you back, even if you’re old, ill or only have one leg left. Just because he’s apparently vulnerable now, doesn’t mean all is forgiven. The man behaved badly, I’d let him rot and be lonely because it’s what he deserves and he’s brought it on himself.

What absolute rubbish

TM did not talk to journalists until after his dd ghosted him. He was ghosted for the high crime of arranging paparazzi photos. This was by the daughter who marched up and down Kensington high Street for the benefit of photographers. She has also organised paparazzi shoots since marrying into the rf eg walking the dogs in Canada with Archie or the hike on the day of the coronation. She wanted an excuse to cut him out of her life because he was an embarrassment and her dh is a snob.

You think he’s lonely because he’s a good bloke? You think most people that are lonely are pleasant to be around? 😅

Do you not find it interesting that it was the Sussexes who made a statement saying a letter had been sent? TM didn’t announce it .
Why did M feel it necessary to announce she had written to her father ?
Surely the best response to all this would be to firmly state it is a private family matter .

What a lot of awful comments since when did you have a child so later on in life you turn round and say you owe me for putting you through school and uni! A child isnt asked to be born its your duty as a parent to raise them up in the best possible way you can. And relationships can change over time, just because she spoke fondly of him and what he did back then doesnt mean that today the relationship is the same. We arent privy to every single thing in that relationship just what we have seen in the media.

And if she has decided to to go nc on her dad its her relationship and her boundaries to decided not for anyone else to.

Bloody hell.

So as a parent you have a duty but as a child of that person you have none?

This story has come to the media because of both sides leaking information. It's only vaguely interesting to some as it continues on from the sideshow of the wedding. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree but when the apple is spouting about memories and love and all the rest the apple sets itself up as a target. No one likes a hypocrite.

There’s no need to be rude.
I think YouJustLikeToLetYourselfDown
makes some very reasonable points.

And JSMill arranging paparazzi shots was a high crime in the context of such a high profile wedding.

People are being so judgemental about MM being wary of her father in case he might embarrass her.

Well yes, most of us, if we had a father who was talking to journalists without any circumspection, going to great lengths to fake pap shots and basically couldn’t be trusted to be discreet and supportive, would have hesitated before asking him to walk us down the aisle in front of a televised audience of estimated 29.2 million in the US, and a peak of 27.7 million in the UK.

Any one of us in those circumstances would have thought twice about it.