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Viviennemary · 2025-12-03T20:14:41+00:00

I've just read Thomas Markle is in hospital intensive care. He has been treated poorly by Meghan. I doubt if the pair will have anything to say about this. Though they've always plenty to say about a lot of things. Doubt they'll be rushing to his bedside.

Slipperati · 07/12/2025 09:29

TwotierChristmas · 07/12/2025 08:58

I think he's a narracist and how he turned her wedding day into a carnival on the world stage would be very hard to forgive. He let down so badly and that weird sister went ballistic he should have stood by her then
Nor let her down and embarrass her.

Yeah, she’d never upstage anyone else’s big day would she.

Like announcing her pregnancy at one of the York sisters wedding.
Like timing every single announcement they ever make to clash with something W&C are doing.

Definitely ALL him.

Sleetandice533 · 07/12/2025 09:38

TwotierChristmas · 07/12/2025 08:58

I think he's a narracist and how he turned her wedding day into a carnival on the world stage would be very hard to forgive. He let down so badly and that weird sister went ballistic he should have stood by her then
Nor let her down and embarrass her.

I think this is spot on actually. The staging of the photos for financial reasons. (No way he was tricked or duped having had a career as a lighting director. He knew the score.)

The comment about it being his turn now. Publishing the letter. Appearing on tv with MM’s hideous step siblings. He did the opposite of what any normal, loving father would do. He wants the world to feel sorry for him. And he has always used their relationship as an opportunity to make money. And he’s still doing that now.

If MM is a hustler and economical with the truth sometimes; she learnt it all at her father’s knee. I can’t imagine how personally hurtful and disappointing it must be to have a father behaving like TM has behaved.

And Piers Morgan for his own warped reasons engineered a picture of Thomas Markle as being an old, frail innocent; which is about as far from the truth as you can get. And everyone, again for their own reasons, because they want to pile on MM, swallowed this narrative wholesale and ignored the evidence.

I don’t blame MM for distancing herself at all. And I don’t think it’s anyone else’s business how she handles this. It’s a really sad and difficult situation made even worse by the world’s press monitoring developments.

Sleetandice533 · 07/12/2025 09:41

StrawberryWasp · 07/12/2025 09:12

I think her father and step siblings want to hurt MM, because of her treatment of them, they want the public to side with them and her to look bad. They utilise the media to play this game.

This puts MM in a difficult position because if she doesn't contact her ill father she looks bad but if she does they'll publicise and use what she says or does. They won't be happy unless they force a visit with the grandchildren.
She can't win this game.

I don't feel sorry for her she contributed to creating this scenario, but I can see she's now in a difficult position.

If I was doing her PR I would advise her to pay a substantial portion of TM’s medical bills and leave well alone. That would be a way of acknowledging the relationship while remaining distant.

TwotierChristmas · 07/12/2025 09:45

@Sleetandice533 yes pay the medical bills do it discreetly.

TwotierChristmas · 07/12/2025 09:46

@Slipperati her big day is definatly her wedding day !

TwotierChristmas · 07/12/2025 09:49

I was under the impression that Megan snubbed piers in some way and that's why he used his platform to smear and vilify her .

Slipperati · 07/12/2025 09:54

Sleetandice533 · 07/12/2025 09:38

I think this is spot on actually. The staging of the photos for financial reasons. (No way he was tricked or duped having had a career as a lighting director. He knew the score.)

The comment about it being his turn now. Publishing the letter. Appearing on tv with MM’s hideous step siblings. He did the opposite of what any normal, loving father would do. He wants the world to feel sorry for him. And he has always used their relationship as an opportunity to make money. And he’s still doing that now.

If MM is a hustler and economical with the truth sometimes; she learnt it all at her father’s knee. I can’t imagine how personally hurtful and disappointing it must be to have a father behaving like TM has behaved.

And Piers Morgan for his own warped reasons engineered a picture of Thomas Markle as being an old, frail innocent; which is about as far from the truth as you can get. And everyone, again for their own reasons, because they want to pile on MM, swallowed this narrative wholesale and ignored the evidence.

I don’t blame MM for distancing herself at all. And I don’t think it’s anyone else’s business how she handles this. It’s a really sad and difficult situation made even worse by the world’s press monitoring developments.

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They wouldn’t be monitoring it so closely if she and PH hadn’t made every penny they have out of publicly trashing the RF. If they just kept quiet about “family” and got on with the rest of their lives then people would feel empathy.

They made their own bed. You can’t go round trashing family and creating literally the world’s biggest family feud on one side, then expecting privacy when either it doesn’t suit you or…. You’ve got something to hide...on the other.

They've got themselves into one massive mess and TM is not going to let them out of it easily.

Benjithedog · 07/12/2025 09:54

BakedBeing · 07/12/2025 05:41

The standards have changed. In the past the vast majority of the comments on this thread would’ve been deleted for not being in the spirit. Clue: not mine.

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But it’s not your site and you don’t make up rules of its use so yes if you post something that breaches these standards your post is deleted. I don’t see a problem with that

Benjithedog · 07/12/2025 09:59

Bobafett2020 · 06/12/2025 23:50

I didn't

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I was explaining why posts are deleted

MrsFinkelstein · 07/12/2025 10:21

TwotierChristmas · 07/12/2025 09:49

I was under the impression that Megan snubbed piers in some way and that's why he used his platform to smear and vilify her .

AFAIK Meghan and Piers were originally very friendly. He watched Suits and they chatted online and met a couple of times. He was very complimentary about her.

He still was when her relationship with Harry initially went public. According to him, she then ignored him when he tried to make contact again which men like Piers hate.

As to the whole issue with her father - most of this could have been averted if Meghan had involved him from the start. Harry should have met him at least once. He was obviously put out and hurt at not clearly being invited to the wedding - he was never sent an invitation and was just left in Rosarito with no support and the Press hounding him.

He should have been brought over a couple of weeks before the wedding and suited up. The Palace PR staff would have been able to control press access to him.

Just as the Queen recommended H&M do. The situation deteriorated because H&M allowed it to. Neither party behaved well, but IMO one side made it worse and then the other kicked off more.

Zippedydodah · 07/12/2025 10:22

Sleetandice533 · 07/12/2025 09:38

I think this is spot on actually. The staging of the photos for financial reasons. (No way he was tricked or duped having had a career as a lighting director. He knew the score.)

The comment about it being his turn now. Publishing the letter. Appearing on tv with MM’s hideous step siblings. He did the opposite of what any normal, loving father would do. He wants the world to feel sorry for him. And he has always used their relationship as an opportunity to make money. And he’s still doing that now.

If MM is a hustler and economical with the truth sometimes; she learnt it all at her father’s knee. I can’t imagine how personally hurtful and disappointing it must be to have a father behaving like TM has behaved.

And Piers Morgan for his own warped reasons engineered a picture of Thomas Markle as being an old, frail innocent; which is about as far from the truth as you can get. And everyone, again for their own reasons, because they want to pile on MM, swallowed this narrative wholesale and ignored the evidence.

I don’t blame MM for distancing herself at all. And I don’t think it’s anyone else’s business how she handles this. It’s a really sad and difficult situation made even worse by the world’s press monitoring developments.

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I totally agree, I think he’s as manipulative as she is.
He could have quietly contacted her, absolutely no need for the drama and publicity at all.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 07/12/2025 10:38

NormaMajors1992coat · 06/12/2025 23:14

You don’t have to use the word if what you are describing is racism. Denying Archie a title because he is mixed race could not possibly be anything other than racism, whether or not you use that word. (And whether or not your white husband then goes on tv to minimise it as unconscious bias.)

Perfectly true NormaMajors1992coat, but as we've seen, Harry's so limited that he probably wouldn't understand that and might even think he was being clever

Fancyquickthinker · 07/12/2025 10:55

I'd love to see a resolution to this for all of the families - especially the children's sakes - but the amount of on-line hate from her half siblings - I really do not know how she can possibly reach out. She's in an impossible situation - and if she has any compassion or love left for her dad, hope this ends peacefully and without cameras.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 07/12/2025 10:57

It doesn’t surprise me that Harry then at a later date tried to say it was unconscious bias ...

It doesn't surprise me either, @YouJustLikeToLetYourselfDown, because for a certainty someone at the palace would have asked them both what was allegedly said, and any lack of a coherent answer may have brought consequences if Harry hadn't retracted

Ditto the odious Scobie, who's been notably quieter on the subject of H&M since the naming of Charles and Catherine. As I've said on here before I'd love to have heard what the lawyers had to say to him

grbj · 07/12/2025 11:01

Fancyquickthinker · 07/12/2025 10:55

I'd love to see a resolution to this for all of the families - especially the children's sakes - but the amount of on-line hate from her half siblings - I really do not know how she can possibly reach out. She's in an impossible situation - and if she has any compassion or love left for her dad, hope this ends peacefully and without cameras.

I really think she should reconcile with the dad, but Tom Jr is unhinged.

He's always making angry and vaguely sexualised comments about Meg. She has good reason to never want to see him again.

I mean, does he actually want her to get back in touch, or does he just enjoy slagging her off?

bluegreygreen · 07/12/2025 11:17

Samantha and Thomas Jr are Meghan's half siblings, not step siblings.

Benjithedog · 07/12/2025 11:22

grbj · 07/12/2025 11:01

I really think she should reconcile with the dad, but Tom Jr is unhinged.

He's always making angry and vaguely sexualised comments about Meg. She has good reason to never want to see him again.

I mean, does he actually want her to get back in touch, or does he just enjoy slagging her off?

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I wonder did H and M enjoy slagging off the RF? I’m sure the enjoyed all the attention that brought them

TwotierChristmas · 07/12/2025 11:34

@MrsFinkelstein I'm not sure he's clearly quite an emotionally immature petulant person . Imagine all the Goss he would have leaked has he been involved at the start. He doesn't seem to know how to behave or he doesn't care and wants the money.

Doria on the other hand is discreet and was included.

Mylovelygreendress · 07/12/2025 11:48

Do we know if the half siblings were at M’s first wedding ?

grbj · 07/12/2025 11:53

Benjithedog · 07/12/2025 11:22

I wonder did H and M enjoy slagging off the RF? I’m sure the enjoyed all the attention that brought them

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I agree, I don’t like them either.

Rhaidimiddim · 07/12/2025 12:01

NormaMajors1992coat · 07/12/2025 07:06

I didn’t say it was true, just that what Meghan described could not be anything other than racism. (In response to someone - and Harry did the same of course - saying that they never actually used the word, as if that made it ok.) But thanks for your informative reply. Do take care getting down off that horse.

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It is worth remembering, too, that at the time international MSM exploded with British-Royal-Family-is-accused-of-racist stories, so the entire exchange between M and O was universally perceived as an acvusation.of racism. The RF responded with a statement that they were taking yhe allegation seriously.

M and H said nothing. As in - " hang on a bit, that's not whatvwe meant". The mud landed exactly as M intended.

ChristieMcVie · 07/12/2025 12:17

Rhaidimiddim · 07/12/2025 12:01

It is worth remembering, too, that at the time international MSM exploded with British-Royal-Family-is-accused-of-racist stories, so the entire exchange between M and O was universally perceived as an acvusation.of racism. The RF responded with a statement that they were taking yhe allegation seriously.

M and H said nothing. As in - " hang on a bit, that's not whatvwe meant". The mud landed exactly as M intended.

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They said nothing and picked up an award from the Robert F Kennedy centre for tackling institutional racism in the RF. They let both Prince Phillip and Queen Elizabeth die with the slur hanging over their family. Harry only backtracked during his Spare press junket. Curiously, that awful racist treatment of Meghan was never mentioned in either the Netflix docusoap or Spare. It only came up again, a year later, with Omid Scobie’s Dutch translation of Endgame, which has still never been explained. We don’t even know if the person referred to in that translation, “The Princess of Wales” was meant to be Catherine or the actual person with that title at the time of the alleged remarks - Camilla, who (for obvious reasons) never used it. Harry and his wife let another two people, Charles and Catherine, suffer through their illnesses and cancer while the racism slur hangs over their heads. The one and only source of those names and the parties who can put the record straight must be the Sussexes - and yet they remain silent. And as we know from Meghan, silence is complicity.

upinaballoon · 07/12/2025 12:17

Rhaidimiddim · 07/12/2025 12:01

It is worth remembering, too, that at the time international MSM exploded with British-Royal-Family-is-accused-of-racist stories, so the entire exchange between M and O was universally perceived as an acvusation.of racism. The RF responded with a statement that they were taking yhe allegation seriously.

M and H said nothing. As in - " hang on a bit, that's not whatvwe meant". The mud landed exactly as M intended.

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Thank you for the reminder that the Palace/LQ said that they were taking the allegation seriously.

lickingfingertastingfood · 07/12/2025 12:20

NormaMajors1992coat · 07/12/2025 07:10

Also handy that it takes attention away from the PoW’s Christmas carols 🤔

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If anything it reinforces that the RF was NOT the place for the Sussexes.

They court publicity and criticism comes hand in hand with that. You have Harry talking on a podcast recently with Hasan Minhaj saying that photos of children should not be used on social media yet you have him and Meghan very clearly using them.

They create controversy wherever they go because of their " do as I say not do as I do" attitude. No one likes hypocrites. The red flag was Meghan with only her mother at her wedding - a mother who had been absent from her life from the age of 11 while she lived with her father who she praised endlessly on the Tig ( even although it was to illustrate how much SHE was loved). Meanwhile the Wales family are carrying on with their duties.

lickingfingertastingfood · 07/12/2025 12:20

Forgot this