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Why does Harry need to announce his visit to Canada ?

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Mylovelygreendress · 04/11/2025 08:46

Harry has announced he will visit Canada for Invictus events .
The announcement is made while the POW is in Brazil undertaking important official business including representing KC at COP.
His spokesperson says the announcement had to be made at short notice for security reasons !
If this non working royal has security concerns , why announce it at all ?

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bubzie · 05/11/2025 12:01

Benjithedog · 05/11/2025 11:59

Agreed. He made the choice with little or no real understanding of what it actually meant to walk away. A more intelligent considered person would have kept the doors open to go back should the new way of life not work out but he went for the scorched earth tactic which has meant he has no options and has clearly run out of ideas to keep himself relevant.

The Freedom Flight - what a goon!

Benjithedog · 05/11/2025 12:02

bubzie · 05/11/2025 12:01

The Freedom Flight - what a goon!

He can’t even keep his story straight. A common occurrence when you tell lies and can’t keep up with them.

bubzie · 05/11/2025 12:03

LittleAlexHornesPocket · 05/11/2025 09:43

Does it impact you in any way whatsoever? Seriously, why is it so important to you that you've taken time out of your day to post a number of comments about.

Please, explain it to me. Why waste all that time worrying about the actions of someone you presumably have never met, when it has no impact on you at all?

I mean, I could understand if he had gone out and committed a crime. But all he has done has said he is going somewhere. Who the f**k cares?

Here is the perfect example of what I've just written about - why do you care? Personal attack - nothing else . Waaah!

Mylovelygreendress · 05/11/2025 12:14

Wellthatsacharlingknot · 05/11/2025 11:37

Don’t see it that way myself! People have different perspectives. I don’t think there is anything particularly bad about wanting to support charities when you don’t actually have to anymore. Rather the reverse.

Proportionately, if we are just going on the seriousness of misdemeanours, there definitely should be far more posts about Andrew. And yet …

OK I will try again !
No one is saying Harry shouldn’t do charity work . The question is why does he have to announce it ? Why issue a statement making reference to security plus making reference to “ other working members of the RF “? He isn’t one . He and his wife didn’t like the rules so went off in a strop .
I think 99.9% of posters agree that Andrew is a despicable person so not a lot to discuss !
It’s very different to the H and M situation .

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Thedom · 05/11/2025 12:14

It’s strange, posters are discussing and criticising Harry and Meghan’s latest PR escapade, and H&M supporters come on the same thread mostly criticising other posters.

NormaMajors1992coat · 05/11/2025 12:21

Wellthatsacharlingknot · 05/11/2025 11:03

First, as has been pointed out previously, this trip was planned months in advance so it was not intended to upstage anyone.

Second, it’s fairly obvious that Anne and Edward do not attract the same level of vitriol and threats as H&M. The same level of hatred hasn’t been stirred up against them globally, and nor do they have to contend with racist, right wing hatred, which is a growing threat.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-63804711.amp

First, it’s the timing of the announcement rather than the trip itself (although I’m sure the Earthshot and COP dates were available “months in advance” so Harry could no doubt have avoided the clash if he really really didn’t mean to try and upstage).

Second, this was not the point he is making. He is complaining that he doesn’t get the same level of security as other working royals. There is no mention there of relative threat. He thinks he is entitled to the same level of security as “other working royals”, but he is not a working royal, so the security they receive is completely irrelevant. If he were arguing that another ex working royal who had chosen to leave and live in another country was getting high level security paid for by the British taxpayer when on private trips offering no benefit to the UK, he might have a point. But obviously that would be ridiculous - imagine Zara complaining she wasn’t getting security provided by us when on a private trip abroad. It just wouldn’t happen. The whole point of choosing to leave was that they were no longer working royals and would be financially independent.

(Also the article you posted as evidence of the threat they face is about when they were living in the UK and were working royals. They’re neither of those things now. North America is way safer, anpparently. And as many have already said, if Harry is really in so much danger, why would he announce these trips in advance? He could release content and attract publicity for the cause just fine while it was taking place or soon after.

Thedom · 05/11/2025 12:29

There is an announcement circulating on SM banning family members from the vets event, no explanation why (although it could be a space issue, which is understandable) but it’s such a bad look for Harry, considering their own reputation for having absolutely no regard for their close families. It could also be the expense of getting all those NDA’s signed and Harry worried about boos.

Their PR is a farce.

coolmum123 · 05/11/2025 12:40

Benjithedog · 05/11/2025 11:59

Agreed. He made the choice with little or no real understanding of what it actually meant to walk away. A more intelligent considered person would have kept the doors open to go back should the new way of life not work out but he went for the scorched earth tactic which has meant he has no options and has clearly run out of ideas to keep himself relevant.

He went scorched earth because at the time they were under the illusion they were more popular than the RF. People in Hollywood were falling over themselves to meet them and media companies were throwing money at them and they jumped on the gravy train thinking they would not have to put in any effort and just glide around hobnobbing. They thought they were so talented and clever it did not occur to them that it wouldn’t last.

Benjithedog · 05/11/2025 12:51

coolmum123 · 05/11/2025 12:40

He went scorched earth because at the time they were under the illusion they were more popular than the RF. People in Hollywood were falling over themselves to meet them and media companies were throwing money at them and they jumped on the gravy train thinking they would not have to put in any effort and just glide around hobnobbing. They thought they were so talented and clever it did not occur to them that it wouldn’t last.

Absolutely and as anyone could have predicted it hasn’t lasted. It’s one embarrassing failure after another. I don’t think it ever crossed their minds that their only saleable point was their proximity to the RF. Once this has been done to death no one else was interested which has left them frantically chasing relevancy which has since long gone.

Pizzajigsaw · 05/11/2025 13:03

heartofpearl · 04/11/2025 11:53

because it’s what he does, tries to show he is as important as William.

From twitter:
Inevitable if not predictable...
Dec. 2, ' 22 Earthshot Boston / Netflix trailer for H&M series dropped
Nov. 7, '23 Earthshot Singapore / Harry delivered msg at Stand Up For Heroes Nov. 6, '24 Earthshot Cape Town / Harry attended the Tillman Honours Gala in Chicago

And Meghan released her half baked (and now defunct) riviera orchard trailer as William took to the stage for a Diana awards 25th anniversary tribute speech. It looks far more like a pattern than a coincidence.

BettysRoasties · 05/11/2025 13:04

coolmum123 · 05/11/2025 12:40

He went scorched earth because at the time they were under the illusion they were more popular than the RF. People in Hollywood were falling over themselves to meet them and media companies were throwing money at them and they jumped on the gravy train thinking they would not have to put in any effort and just glide around hobnobbing. They thought they were so talented and clever it did not occur to them that it wouldn’t last.

Like a massive toddler tantrum.

You won’t give me what I want so they rage and whine and it’s not fair and not their fault.

How fast did it flip from wanting one foot in and to support the RF to we have to leave we had to escape it was racist and they are all big mean bullies.

But if they had of got their hockey cockey in out, they wouldn’t have been saying racist and bullies and felt so alone and trapped. Nope it would have all be fine and dandy.

Harry has clearly always from him in his book and interviews basically been jealous of William being the heir. The second he thought he was more popular because of the fanfare for his wedding he decided he could have his own version of the Rf and his face planted it and can’t see why. He can’t see that his irrelevant other that for click bait and people who are here to watch the car crash. Waiting to see if he might come to his senses. Like a real life soap.

TheNinkyNonkyIsATardis · 05/11/2025 13:09

NormaMajors1992coat · 05/11/2025 09:12

I just love the bit trying to excuse his blatant attempt to upstage William by claiming it’s because he doesn’t get the same level of security as “other working royals”.

The fact that he is not a working royal because he chose not to be has clearly escaped him. He seems to be implying here that as a private citizen undertaking a private visit overseas, nothing to do with UK interests and probably getting paid for it, he should have the same level of security as eg William representing the king and the UK at COP in Brazil. Funded by us. He thinks we should pay for his security whenever he fancies a trip somewhere. Otherwise he might be forced to announce things at inconvenient times for the RF.

Plenty of the others don’t get the higher level of security - none of the non working royals do and even Anne, Edward and co don’t when not on official business - but somehow they all manage not to a) moan about it all the time, b) announce everything that happens in their lives and c) summon Backgrid to capture it.

Harry’s particular combination of stupidity and entitlement is really something else. They must be so glad he’s gone.

To be honest, forget the other royals or public figures.

How many women are at risk from ex partners or stalkers? I'd far rather they were protected.

Indianrollerbird · 05/11/2025 13:15

Thedom · 05/11/2025 12:14

It’s strange, posters are discussing and criticising Harry and Meghan’s latest PR escapade, and H&M supporters come on the same thread mostly criticising other posters.

Twas ever thus! Go down the ad hominem attack route when you have no counterpoints.

NormaMajors1992coat · 05/11/2025 13:24

Harry might as well be complaining that he’s not getting paid as much as the other catwalk models, or he’s not getting as many endorsements as the other Olympic gold medal winning gymnasts or he’s not allowed to use a siren like the other police officers. What the working royals get is completely irrelevant because he isn’t one. It’s mind boggling to me that he still seems to think he is, nearly six years after his last royal engagement. I mean does he really not understand the reality of his life now, or is he trying their tactic of pretending that whatever they want to happen is already happening? Again. Even though it hasn’t worked yet 🤦‍♀️

JSMill · 05/11/2025 13:25

TheNinkyNonkyIsATardis · 05/11/2025 13:09

To be honest, forget the other royals or public figures.

How many women are at risk from ex partners or stalkers? I'd far rather they were protected.

Exactly! I always think of women dealing with abusive ex partners or stalker when I hear H bleat on about security.

Indianrollerbird · 05/11/2025 13:30

coolmum123 · 05/11/2025 12:40

He went scorched earth because at the time they were under the illusion they were more popular than the RF. People in Hollywood were falling over themselves to meet them and media companies were throwing money at them and they jumped on the gravy train thinking they would not have to put in any effort and just glide around hobnobbing. They thought they were so talented and clever it did not occur to them that it wouldn’t last.

I agree with this, but I will also add that this was Diana 2.0 cosplay. They leapt straight to Diana, the estrangement years, where she claimed she was the victim of the palace machine, awful and unsupportive RF, men in grey, press intrusion etc etc. The "escape" to the US was the escape Harry fantasised his mother would have made with Dodi had they lived (and Dodi had been able to rid himself of his inconvenient fiancé). That's one of the reasons they bring her up at any given opportunity - they want people to believe her legacy is theirs, and that they embody her spirit.

The problem is, Diana had built up 15 years of goodwill, was a global icon, and was (to some, not all) a beloved character by the point she wanted to go (if indeed she did). Harry and Meghan didn't spend enough time (a mere 72 days as a working royal couple iirc) to build up love or understanding from the public. They just pissed everyone off by moaning, inter alia, that they didn't receive big enough houses, spurious claims they didn't receive palace support, shat on the Queen's legacy via the Commonwealth and dissed their own wedding. They completely failed to understand that cosplaying a tragic, global icon fleeing for happiness is not the same as actually being one.

bluegreygreen · 05/11/2025 13:35

In a statement Harry's team blamed the timing on the fact he is 'not afforded the same level of security and protection as other working members of the <a class="break-all" href="https://archive.is/o/HZYX8/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/royals/index.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Royal Family'.

As I said yesterday, apart from the usual timing to try to upstage Earthshot, this is part of his campaign to reinstate the security he used to have. He still can't accept that not being a working royal means you don't warrant the same security measures that working royals get for official events.
He must think that putting out statements like this will confuse people and make them more likely to agree that he should have it. He's also still writing to the Home Secretary!

I do wonder if it's reaching the stage where KC3 / the Palace has to remind people that they are not working royals. If he ends up doing a performative meeting with First Nations leaders as he did last time (totally ignoring the King's representative in Cnada, the Governor General) they may have to.

Kalpitiya · 05/11/2025 13:49

NormaMajors1992coat · 05/11/2025 13:24

Harry might as well be complaining that he’s not getting paid as much as the other catwalk models, or he’s not getting as many endorsements as the other Olympic gold medal winning gymnasts or he’s not allowed to use a siren like the other police officers. What the working royals get is completely irrelevant because he isn’t one. It’s mind boggling to me that he still seems to think he is, nearly six years after his last royal engagement. I mean does he really not understand the reality of his life now, or is he trying their tactic of pretending that whatever they want to happen is already happening? Again. Even though it hasn’t worked yet 🤦‍♀️

He seems to have a touch of the AMW’s - delusional, grandiose, arrogant and entitled - the four horsemen of the ugly narc.

Benjithedog · 05/11/2025 13:53

There would be absolute uproar if they had their taxpayers security reinstated - not that I think this will happen.

jeffgoldblum · 05/11/2025 14:20

LittleAlexHornesPocket · 05/11/2025 09:43

Does it impact you in any way whatsoever? Seriously, why is it so important to you that you've taken time out of your day to post a number of comments about.

Please, explain it to me. Why waste all that time worrying about the actions of someone you presumably have never met, when it has no impact on you at all?

I mean, I could understand if he had gone out and committed a crime. But all he has done has said he is going somewhere. Who the f**k cares?

Does @Mylovelygreendressposting impact you in any way whatsoever?
seriously, why is it so important to you that you needed to take time out of your day to read then post this long comment about it.

please, explain it to me. Why waste all that time worrying about the actions of someone you presumably have never met, when it has no impact on you at all?

jeffgoldblum · 05/11/2025 14:27

Wellthatsacharlingknot · 05/11/2025 10:40

No one is “attacking” anyone. Has it occurred to you that posters may be making this point legitimately, simply because it is a valid point to make?

Has it occurred to you that continuously denying “attacking “ other posters and claiming it’s just differing opinions only works when you are actually discussing the topic and not simply discussing the op right to post !
we are all reading the posts and can see the comments.🤷‍♀️

BigWillyLittleTodger · 05/11/2025 14:32

Kalpitiya · 05/11/2025 13:49

He seems to have a touch of the AMW’s - delusional, grandiose, arrogant and entitled - the four horsemen of the ugly narc.

I’ve been saying the same, AMW and Harry have exactly the same personality traits, with a victim mentality thrown in for good measure for Harry.

jeffgoldblum · 05/11/2025 14:34

EllesmereP · 05/11/2025 11:37

There's a small group of regular posters who try to shut down any discussion about the wider role of the royal family by drowning it out with droning on and on about M&H and being just rude enough that anyone with a different view won't come back. On this thread I've been called dishonest, incapable of understanding, and so on. Nothing worth reporting but I can think of more fun uses of my time than putting up with crap from strangers.
I would be interested to know whether it's a conscious attempt to stifle discussion or whether the regulars here are honestly just that obsessed with M&H.

If you feel that way why post on one of only two current threads about h and m ?
there are literally dozens about Andrew and you are free to start one about whichever royal you wish.
it simply makes no sense to decide that this thread and posters stop their discussion and talk about what you want.🤷‍♀️

JellyBabiesmunch · 05/11/2025 14:42

BigWillyLittleTodger · 05/11/2025 14:32

I’ve been saying the same, AMW and Harry have exactly the same personality traits, with a victim mentality thrown in for good measure for Harry.

Shows the way they are all brought up really, doesn't it?

Laserwho · 05/11/2025 14:51

jeffgoldblum · 04/11/2025 11:49

Well her lack of curiosity about the news is hardly the fault of the op .

I read the news, I watch it on TV. I've seen nothing about Harry's trip. But then I read and watch the real news relevent to the UK.