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Why is there more online vitriol towards Megan Markle than Andrew?

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ladykale · 22/10/2025 10:21

I find it ridiculous how there is consistent hate towards Megan markle when she does pretty low key things like launching jam that no one is being forced to buy. People were delighted that she is no longer using HRH titles and even said she shouldn’t call herself the Duchess of Sussex (even though that is distinct from royal titles).

On the flip side - NO ONE has called for an actual investigation into Prince Andrew on the days that he claimed to be at Pizza Express in Woking, when his movements are logged by the royal gamily and his security detail so they eill
know exactly where he was!

He slept with an underage victim of sex trafficking who
conveniently died by suicide shortly before her memoir naming and shaming many individuals came out.

Limited criticism of the late Queen who used £12million
pg her personal money to pay off an underage sec trafficking victim & shielded him from any investigation.

Disgusted by it all and was amused to see the vitriol on an article about Megan breathing, whereas limited calls for Andrew to be investigated by any U.S or UK authorities!

WHY?

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AutumnAllTheWay · 24/10/2025 01:47

They are completely separate people!

Why the constant push to lump them together and compare people's reactions?

Id wager the kids of people bothered by Meghan are a completely different demographic to those who even bother to read anything about Andrew...

Chalk and cheese.

Different ages, different gender, different continent, different lifestyle.

Id be pretty cheesed off if I was her with people keep lumping us in together as if our lives were intertwined

AutumnAllTheWay · 24/10/2025 01:48

They are completely separate people!

Why the constant push to lump them together and compare people's reactions?

Id wager the kids of people bothered by Meghan are a completely different demographic to those who even bother to read anything about Andrew...

Chalk and cheese.

Different ages, different gender, different continent, different lifestyle.

Id be pretty cheesed off if I was her with people keep lumping us in together as if our lives were intertwined

BeeWitchy · 24/10/2025 02:39

I guess some of us s are more intuitive and emotionally intelligent than others

It is as I thought, some people think they just ‘know’. They don’t need reason as they just ‘intuit’

crinkletits · 24/10/2025 03:42

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Kitterkitkat · 24/10/2025 04:28

Can't imagine anyone hates her. She's a bit irritating with her delusions of grandeur and speech patterns but that's about it.

With Andrew people just write him off and think he's not important, an elderly pervert with nothing to say and irrelevant. Nobody believes him. So it's a positive to Meghan that people are actually interested.

tragichero · 24/10/2025 04:46

Racism and misogyny and minimisation of male sex crimes, I would think.

I don't have a strong opinion on MM myself. But to consider her worse than a practicing paedophile is fucked up, clearly. So one assumes there are fucked up reasons for it.

fortinbra · 24/10/2025 05:33

Because patriarchy

Spectre8 · 24/10/2025 05:58

Tiredofbullsit · 24/10/2025 01:14

I don’t know how to break this to you but I will say it again.

THEY DID NOT LEAVE THE ROYAL FAMILY TO GET AWAY FROM ANDREW!!!

You have serious comprehension issues!

I didn't say they left because of him, they left because they didnt get half in and out but bet they are mighty glad they did, i know I would be.

logplant · 24/10/2025 06:20

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I feel like this about every person who rants about MM - in real life, I judge them and I slightly regret knowing them - I have no idea how they can spend so much time and headspace hating on a total stranger - but you have put it so much better than I ever could!

Thedom · 24/10/2025 06:42

ozarina · 24/10/2025 03:43

Interesting, only 3 months in, her friends are saying she is not a ‘quitter’, so looks like things continue to be pretty bad working as an employee of Meghan.

Yeah, she sounds like a lovely person 🙄🙄🙄🙄

Lampzade · 24/10/2025 06:47

Simple answer
She is the royal scapegoat .
TPTB use her to deflect attention from the mess the monarchy has become .

ChatHeeBeeGez6298 · 24/10/2025 07:04

Tiredofbullsit · 23/10/2025 18:28

Don’t be daft! Their leaving had precisely NOTHING to do with Andrew! That’s bonkers!

How do you know? We weren’t privy to all of the discussions were we?

Harry before he left saw his uncle living in luxury in a £30 million pound mansion funded god knows how , enjoying the benefits of a life of half in and half out deals! While his own accommodation for his wife and family, was a lot less prestigious, despite him being a son of the monarch. And with half-in, half-out arrangements denied to him and his wife, whose mother incidentally lives in the States.

He would have seen his uncle Edward similarly accommodated in a £30 million pound pile; another one with very favourable lease arrangements in relation to the size of the house. And arguably Edward is a lot less good at charity work than Harry. He refuses to shake hands with the public fhs which I would have thought was a pretty minimum requirement for a royal!

And it’s notable that Andrew got a tax payer funded full police escort to the funeral of Katherine, Duchess of Kent, only a few weeks ago, no questions asked, despite him apparently having been struck off. Whereas Harry has had to battle for similar accommodations.

Andrew and Sarah enjoyed similar tax payer funded police protection in Sarah’s case while she was on many, many holidays with their dc, and in Andrew’s case while he reaped substantial financial rewards, some extremely dodgy and murky, for over a decade of half-in and half -out working arrangements!

I think it’s pretty obvious that Andrew shockingly had a strong protector and defender in the late Queen, no matter what crimes he had committed, but Harry couldn’t rely on his father and his step mother of course to bat for him, even before he committed his so called “sins” against the family, which were considerably less serious than anything Andrew has done!

Given the circumstances mentioned above, I could understand it if Harry felt pretty pissed off and aggrieved by his situation, especially in comparison to that of his uncle Andrew, who by the looks of it was committing fraud on tax-payers’ time, was hob-nobbing with a Chinese spy relatively recently, and until a few days ago enjoyed substantial protection from KC3!

chunkyBoo · 24/10/2025 07:08

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🤣🤣🤣🤣 is that REALLY all you can come up with to say why I’m racist?! REALLY!! You have a very bad grasp of people, you have absolutely no comprehension of racism either if that’s what you actually believe, wow …. Just WOW that’s going to make me laugh all day 🤣🤣🤣

Thedom · 24/10/2025 07:08

Lampzade · 24/10/2025 06:47

Simple answer
She is the royal scapegoat .
TPTB use her to deflect attention from the mess the monarchy has become .

LOL, that’s a looooong stretch by any stretch of the imagination.

So, the RF paid Meghan’s American employee to quit in an effort to distract from the Andrew saga, or Meghan’s employee, her publicist no less, quit her new job to make Meghan look bad in an effort to help make Andrew look good,

Nope, the proof is in the pudding, the Sussex’s are not decent or nice people to work for.

CoffeeCantata · 24/10/2025 07:14

SunshinePlease24 · 23/10/2025 08:13

CoffeeCantata · Today 07:35

SunshinePlease24 · Yesterday 19:40
Lots of people find her annoying which is fair enough.
Other people are just racist.
Lots of people dislike her because she's from the wrong background to be a Royal in their opinion, and wasn't a young virgin bride like Catherine and Diana. A lot of people (including some other women) don't like independent women with opinions.
Her refusal to play along with like of Piers Morgan and his like or bow down to the Royals (who let's face it are hugely dysfunctional) sealed her fate and made the Daily Mail readers seethe with rage.
People are really odd.
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I disagree with your assessment of M’s unpopularity.
She just screams - absolutely SCREAMS - mean girl, manipulative, false, spiteful, shallow narcissist to me…and to many other people.
I would have crossed the street to avoid Ms Markle even after watching the engagement interview. It was some time before I learned she was mixed race so my revulsion most certainly can’t be blamed on that.
She’s welcome to dim whinger Harry. I have no beef with them now as long as they stay on the US and stop claiming to be either royal or philanthropists. They’re both fading from view now and that’s fine by me.

@CoffeeCantata

And yet you use language like revulsion, manipulative, spiteful. Extremely strong words about someone you don't know and have never met.
You've been influenced by the right wing media whether you choose to believe it or not.
There are plenty of alleged 'mean girls' in film, TV, public life. Do you have such a strong reaction to them?
If not, why not?

Ha ha ha ha. Good try, if somewhat hackneyed.

How do you know which media have influenced me? But, leaving that massive assumption aside…

I’ll tell you what influences have shaped my view of M&H:

The creepy performance of M on the engagement interview.
The OW interview with its calculated performance, attempts at character assassination and obvious lies. Outrageous - even OW has distanced herself from this farrago.
Their awful documentary with more performance and more attacks on Harry’s family.
The whingefest which is Spare.

Are these examples of the rw media? No - they’re H and M’s own words and deeds, unmediated.

So…how does that fit in with your accusations towards me?

jumpingthehighjump · 24/10/2025 07:22

ChatHeeBeeGez6298 · 24/10/2025 07:04

How do you know? We weren’t privy to all of the discussions were we?

Harry before he left saw his uncle living in luxury in a £30 million pound mansion funded god knows how , enjoying the benefits of a life of half in and half out deals! While his own accommodation for his wife and family, was a lot less prestigious, despite him being a son of the monarch. And with half-in, half-out arrangements denied to him and his wife, whose mother incidentally lives in the States.

He would have seen his uncle Edward similarly accommodated in a £30 million pound pile; another one with very favourable lease arrangements in relation to the size of the house. And arguably Edward is a lot less good at charity work than Harry. He refuses to shake hands with the public fhs which I would have thought was a pretty minimum requirement for a royal!

And it’s notable that Andrew got a tax payer funded full police escort to the funeral of Katherine, Duchess of Kent, only a few weeks ago, no questions asked, despite him apparently having been struck off. Whereas Harry has had to battle for similar accommodations.

Andrew and Sarah enjoyed similar tax payer funded police protection in Sarah’s case while she was on many, many holidays with their dc, and in Andrew’s case while he reaped substantial financial rewards, some extremely dodgy and murky, for over a decade of half-in and half -out working arrangements!

I think it’s pretty obvious that Andrew shockingly had a strong protector and defender in the late Queen, no matter what crimes he had committed, but Harry couldn’t rely on his father and his step mother of course to bat for him, even before he committed his so called “sins” against the family, which were considerably less serious than anything Andrew has done!

Given the circumstances mentioned above, I could understand it if Harry felt pretty pissed off and aggrieved by his situation, especially in comparison to that of his uncle Andrew, who by the looks of it was committing fraud on tax-payers’ time, was hob-nobbing with a Chinese spy relatively recently, and until a few days ago enjoyed substantial protection from KC3!

I think you are spot on there. I would be hacked off if I was Harry and knowing how Andrew and ex wife Sarah were protected, cosseted, and allowed to do any grubby deal they wanted using their royal names over decades. Sarah, a divorced from Andrew for 29 years, hiring a crew to film her in turn of the century royal outfits on a Royal Estate to advertise her Mills & Boon books! And it wasn't a one off either... she did that more than once.

CoffeeCantata · 24/10/2025 07:22

jumpingthehighjump · 23/10/2025 18:10

How many times do I have to repeat it. You are making assumptions that just aren't true. On Andrew threads I want to talk about Andrew, Sarah, how the monarchy are handling it, royal Lodge, will they move out, the Guiffre book, the media and what they are saying here and across the pond, the Epstein files that's drift drip drip out of the US....not Meghan and harry unless it is particularly relevant at the time

I was just curious as to why the regulars on Sussex threads don't have much to say about Andrew. That's all

I sometimes wonder if I’m in a parallel universe.

I’ve been on the Andrew threads a lot and have seen loads of regular RF pps (who share my scepticism about the Sussexes). I’ve seen no Andrew Apologists anywhere. What am I missing?

I suspect the problem is that it would suit your narrative to think people like me support Andrew…but I’m sorry to disappoint.

jumpingthehighjump · 24/10/2025 07:24

I know you don't support Andrew and have never said that. I am not talking about support for Andrew, you have missed the point.

Buttcraic · 24/10/2025 07:25

Not RTFT but Andrew's pretty quiet in media. He deserves everything he gets, his crimes ARE way worse than anything meg's done, but meghan's out here whipping up the press for attention, making podcasts and TV programmes. I do not like her content 🤷‍♀️

ChatHeeBeeGez6298 · 24/10/2025 07:27

CoffeeCantata · 24/10/2025 07:14

Ha ha ha ha. Good try, if somewhat hackneyed.

How do you know which media have influenced me? But, leaving that massive assumption aside…

I’ll tell you what influences have shaped my view of M&H:

The creepy performance of M on the engagement interview.
The OW interview with its calculated performance, attempts at character assassination and obvious lies. Outrageous - even OW has distanced herself from this farrago.
Their awful documentary with more performance and more attacks on Harry’s family.
The whingefest which is Spare.

Are these examples of the rw media? No - they’re H and M’s own words and deeds, unmediated.

So…how does that fit in with your accusations towards me?

If you think that Oprah Winfrey interviews, and ghost written books produced by major publishers and streamed tv documentaries are all “unmediated” then you have a very naive view of how those things work. They are without exception designed to make money for media organisations which usually involves emphasising the negative.

CoffeeCantata · 24/10/2025 07:30

logplant · 23/10/2025 20:16

Never been wrong? Your vibes could be converted into ££££s. Go for it - you’re a bloody genius!😂

It serves me very well in my real life. I’m not taken in by people and it’s sometimes shocking for me to find that others are.

I can’t help it - I just have always been able to see through people. I do a lot of nodding, smiling and moving along the bus - I just give nasty people a wide berth and I’ve never had any friendship or relationship problems, but I do have lots of lovely, genuine people in my life.

Yes - probably I could monetise this! Some people would, but I have no time or interest in that and frankly you can’t teach intuition.😄

chunkyBoo · 24/10/2025 07:33

tragichero · 24/10/2025 04:46

Racism and misogyny and minimisation of male sex crimes, I would think.

I don't have a strong opinion on MM myself. But to consider her worse than a practicing paedophile is fucked up, clearly. So one assumes there are fucked up reasons for it.

Who considers her worse than PA? I don’t think anyone has said she’s worse than him?! Personally, as far as the circles of hell are concerned, PA has a castle in the pits of hell, scaling the walls of each circle like a scavaging rat (apologies to all rats reading this!), MM and PH just lord over the circles of greed and gluttony, so PA is CLEARLY worse than them

CoffeeCantata · 24/10/2025 07:35

ChatHeeBeeGez6298 · 24/10/2025 07:27

If you think that Oprah Winfrey interviews, and ghost written books produced by major publishers and streamed tv documentaries are all “unmediated” then you have a very naive view of how those things work. They are without exception designed to make money for media organisations which usually involves emphasising the negative.

Thats funny! But I’m sorry - nothing you say will change my view of that ridiculous couple. They put their names to all that stuff and took the millions. Totally their problem if they have contributed to their own poor image.

And they’d love to do more of the same, wouldn’t they? But sadly no one, and particularly not Netflix, is interested any longer.

ChatHeeBeeGez6298 · 24/10/2025 07:35

SunshinePlease24 · 22/10/2025 19:40

Lots of people find her annoying which is fair enough.

Other people are just racist.

Lots of people dislike her because she's from the wrong background to be a Royal in their opinion, and wasn't a young virgin bride like Catherine and Diana. A lot of people (including some other women) don't like independent women with opinions.

Her refusal to play along with like of Piers Morgan and his like or bow down to the Royals (who let's face it are hugely dysfunctional) sealed her fate and made the Daily Mail readers seethe with rage.

People are really odd.

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This is spot on.

And have you noticed, very conveniently in the middle of the Andrew debacle, Piers Morgan is publicising his anti-woke book and using that as an excuse to attack Harry and Meghan again! What a surprise!

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