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Why is there more online vitriol towards Megan Markle than Andrew?

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ladykale · 22/10/2025 10:21

I find it ridiculous how there is consistent hate towards Megan markle when she does pretty low key things like launching jam that no one is being forced to buy. People were delighted that she is no longer using HRH titles and even said she shouldn’t call herself the Duchess of Sussex (even though that is distinct from royal titles).

On the flip side - NO ONE has called for an actual investigation into Prince Andrew on the days that he claimed to be at Pizza Express in Woking, when his movements are logged by the royal gamily and his security detail so they eill
know exactly where he was!

He slept with an underage victim of sex trafficking who
conveniently died by suicide shortly before her memoir naming and shaming many individuals came out.

Limited criticism of the late Queen who used £12million
pg her personal money to pay off an underage sec trafficking victim & shielded him from any investigation.

Disgusted by it all and was amused to see the vitriol on an article about Megan breathing, whereas limited calls for Andrew to be investigated by any U.S or UK authorities!

WHY?

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jumpingthehighjump · 23/10/2025 18:31

ChatHeeBeeGez6298 · 23/10/2025 18:27

Quite! And many of us know exactly what you mean jumpingthehighjump!

I agree that it is both very odd and amusing at the same time.

And I just don’t buy the disingenuous excuses about there being nothing further to discuss about Andrew! Really? You would have thought the fact that the late Queen and the current King appear to have been involved in deliberately covering up both Andrew’s sexual proclivities and his illegal financial deals, worthy of comment, but I don’t see many monarchists discussing that or starting debates about it.

A few regular posters on the monarchist side, until quite recently, were defending Andrew and saying that there wasn’t enough proof to establish his guilt! But now we have the proof that he lied blatantly over and over again, in public, funnily enough, there is no further comment… .

And how about the question that, as a result of Andrew’s misdemeanours and the subsequent cover up, whether the monarchy can any longer longer be trusted to police their own financial affairs? I would have thought that would be an interesting topic for debate? Similarly whether the royals believe themselves to be above the law? Funnily enough, I haven’t seen any monarchists starting threads like that… .

Thank you, and yes!
As far as I am concerned there is a lot to discuss about Andrew and Sarah particularly as there are impacts over in the US and the files are being withheld by the attorney general over there

There is a lot more to come out,that's for sure

And yes, can the Monarchy police itself? I think not

Indianrollerbird · 23/10/2025 18:31

ChatHeeBeeGez6298 · 23/10/2025 18:27

Quite! And many of us know exactly what you mean jumpingthehighjump!

I agree that it is both very odd and amusing at the same time.

And I just don’t buy the disingenuous excuses about there being nothing further to discuss about Andrew! Really? You would have thought the fact that the late Queen and the current King appear to have been involved in deliberately covering up both Andrew’s sexual proclivities and his illegal financial deals, worthy of comment, but I don’t see many monarchists discussing that or starting debates about it.

A few regular posters on the monarchist side, until quite recently, were defending Andrew and saying that there wasn’t enough proof to establish his guilt! But now we have the proof that he lied blatantly over and over again, in public, funnily enough, there is no further comment… .

And how about the question that, as a result of Andrew’s misdemeanours and the subsequent cover up, whether the monarchy can any longer longer be trusted to police their own financial affairs? I would have thought that would be an interesting topic for debate? Similarly whether the royals believe themselves to be above the law? Funnily enough, I haven’t seen any monarchists starting threads like that… .

Edit. Quoted wrong post

Indianrollerbird · 23/10/2025 18:34

ChatHeeBeeGez6298 · 23/10/2025 17:55

There you go again posting as if what Harry and Meghan have done is somehow comparable with the potential criminal activities of Andrew and Sarah F?

If anything, what the uncovering of Prince Andrew’s misdemeanours show, is that Harry had very good reason to take his wife and family away from a family who literally paid millions to cover up the sexual abuse of young trafficked women perpetrated by one of their own!

And it’s certainly made a lie of any objection that the RF could possibly have to H & M’s proposal of being half in and half out, as it appears that the late Queen and current King have not only tolerated, but covered up, both Andrew and Sarah consistently carrying out charitable activities on the one hand, while making making lots of profitable and dubious business deals for themselves on the side! For decades! In Andrew’’s case while being funded by the British tax payer! All while living in a £30 million pound mansion on crown estate property! Oh the irony!

And by the way, I never recall H& M saying that they had retired. Or that they would remain hidden at home for that matter! They always said they would continue to support the charitable projects that they were involved and interested in.

Edited

Here's the Sussex tie in. They have nothing to do with the activities of Andrew and Sarah, and vice versa.

ginasevern · 23/10/2025 18:38

Harry and Meghan are a wonderful distraction from the viper's nest that we call the RF. The net is closing in slowly but surely. Fewer and fewer people (especially the young) give a flying fuck about this medieval institution and bit by bit the veil is falling on their immorally gained wealth and disgusting privilege. The media and establishment that fully supports them is finding it harder to do so year on year. So they direct the plebs to the new pantomime villains - Harry & Meghan - and the plebs lap it up.

Tiredofbullsit · 23/10/2025 18:44

ChatHeeBeeGez6298 · 23/10/2025 18:27

Quite! And many of us know exactly what you mean jumpingthehighjump!

I agree that it is both very odd and amusing at the same time.

And I just don’t buy the disingenuous excuses about there being nothing further to discuss about Andrew! Really? You would have thought the fact that the late Queen and the current King appear to have been involved in deliberately covering up both Andrew’s sexual proclivities and his illegal financial deals, worthy of comment, but I don’t see many monarchists discussing that or starting debates about it.

A few regular posters on the monarchist side, until quite recently, were defending Andrew and saying that there wasn’t enough proof to establish his guilt! But now we have the proof that he lied blatantly over and over again, in public, funnily enough, there is no further comment… .

And how about the question that, as a result of Andrew’s misdemeanours and the subsequent cover up, whether the monarchy can any longer longer be trusted to police their own financial affairs? I would have thought that would be an interesting topic for debate? Similarly whether the royals believe themselves to be above the law? Funnily enough, I haven’t seen any monarchists starting threads like that… .

Of course some of us believe in the integrity of justice. Nothing wrong with that!

have always said there wasn’t evidence. Now there is, and he should be dealt with, but as yet despite being utterly repulsed by his debauchery and lies, I still don’t see substantive evidence to arrest him. Hopefully that will come.

Lilacblu · 23/10/2025 18:45

I think it's simply because Megan attacked the Queen.. Prince Philip.. Kate and Wills.. lied about them being racist.. And doesn't really do anything but complain.. massive "cottage" wasn't good enough... told so much absolute crap then changed the story's... Not very likable in so many ways. Andrew isn't either but he keeps it zipped... he's not in any way liked.. only by himself.

chunkyBoo · 23/10/2025 18:59

Lilacblu · 23/10/2025 18:45

I think it's simply because Megan attacked the Queen.. Prince Philip.. Kate and Wills.. lied about them being racist.. And doesn't really do anything but complain.. massive "cottage" wasn't good enough... told so much absolute crap then changed the story's... Not very likable in so many ways. Andrew isn't either but he keeps it zipped... he's not in any way liked.. only by himself.

I think a lot of people started seeing through the thin veil when she and Harry assumed they’d have the stately homes / castles etc, and weee extremely negative about frankly beautiful homes in central London/ Windsor which would actually cost far more than most people could afford. She clearly married for increasing her mo ey, status, ‘class’, ego, and grabbed hold of the entitlement with a firm iron clad grip. They flounced, knobbed around for a few months in Canada who didn’t want them, the LA, using and apparently abusing the generosity of a billionaire (learned by yacht days and uncle A and aunty S no doubt).
the rest of it just kept opening the trench they built and threw shit at everyone from … and no matter how many times they said they were ‘with the queen’ they were ahitting on her family and the monarchy she’d built over her time

Spectre8 · 23/10/2025 19:15

ChatHeeBeeGez6298 · 23/10/2025 17:55

There you go again posting as if what Harry and Meghan have done is somehow comparable with the potential criminal activities of Andrew and Sarah F?

If anything, what the uncovering of Prince Andrew’s misdemeanours show, is that Harry had very good reason to take his wife and family away from a family who literally paid millions to cover up the sexual abuse of young trafficked women perpetrated by one of their own!

And it’s certainly made a lie of any objection that the RF could possibly have to H & M’s proposal of being half in and half out, as it appears that the late Queen and current King have not only tolerated, but covered up, both Andrew and Sarah consistently carrying out charitable activities on the one hand, while making making lots of profitable and dubious business deals for themselves on the side! For decades! In Andrew’’s case while being funded by the British tax payer! All while living in a £30 million pound mansion on crown estate property! Oh the irony!

And by the way, I never recall H& M saying that they had retired. Or that they would remain hidden at home for that matter! They always said they would continue to support the charitable projects that they were involved and interested in.

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Quite smart of them to leave even and away from the scandal now engulfing the Royal Family

CoffeeCantata · 23/10/2025 19:15

ChatHeeBeeGez6298 · 23/10/2025 13:47

…and what really amuses me is that a lot of die hard contributors to Meghan threads are nowhere to be seen on the Andrew threads! How weird is that. What is going on at the moment with him and Sarah really matters. They are talking about it being debated in parliament, unheard of

Absolutely this^^

I was just about to post the same thing!

That’s absolutely not what I’m seeing! Are you implying that Meghan/Harry critics are cool with Andrew’s behaviour? Good luck trying to push that line.

Why even would they be? Makes no sense.

CoffeeCantata · 23/10/2025 19:22

jumpingthehighjump · 23/10/2025 07:46

I would have crossed the street to avoid Ms Markle even after watching the engagement interview

Why? Are you like this in real life? I've met people at social functions, through work, all over the place and thought to myself gosh they seem a bit abrupt, strange, unfriendly whatever. I have parked that view and found out they have turned out to be the nicest people and I am glad I gave them a chance.

Obviously if you feel so strongly about someone just from a short interview on the telly, you were never going to give her a chance were you, especially with all the names you have just called her
It was obvious she was a biracial woman!

Meghan has put a lot of effort and money into NOT identifying as an African American woman.

Oh yes - I often get bad (or good ) vibes very quickly indeed and I’ve never been wrong yet IRL. While I could imagine some might be taken in by TV celebrities (I was devastated about Huw Edwards), for me Meghan was just flapping with red flags from the get-go.

wordler · 23/10/2025 19:27

isthesolution · 23/10/2025 17:34

Media.

The media want you to believe Kate is perfect princess and therefore Meghan is cast as the villain.

You’re half right - they want to push that narrative now but they want to reverse it every six months or so to lift up each ‘rival’ in turn. Creates more content for them.

Unfortunately for the tabloids Kate got cancer and Meghan keeps doing unpopular things so they are finding it hard to do the regular up and down narrative.

logplant · 23/10/2025 20:16

CoffeeCantata · 23/10/2025 19:22

Meghan has put a lot of effort and money into NOT identifying as an African American woman.

Oh yes - I often get bad (or good ) vibes very quickly indeed and I’ve never been wrong yet IRL. While I could imagine some might be taken in by TV celebrities (I was devastated about Huw Edwards), for me Meghan was just flapping with red flags from the get-go.

Never been wrong? Your vibes could be converted into ££££s. Go for it - you’re a bloody genius!😂

Tiredofbullsit · 23/10/2025 20:38

Spectre8 · 23/10/2025 19:15

Quite smart of them to leave even and away from the scandal now engulfing the Royal Family

How the hell was it “smart” when it was nothing whatsoever to do with Andrew that they left!

That’s one hell of a reach 🤣

Tiredofbullsit · 23/10/2025 20:41

logplant · 23/10/2025 20:16

Never been wrong? Your vibes could be converted into ££££s. Go for it - you’re a bloody genius!😂

Nasty and uncalled for.

I guess some of us s are more intuitive and emotionally intelligent than others.

If you’re not, then you’re just not!

Tiredofbullsit · 23/10/2025 20:43

CoffeeCantata · 23/10/2025 19:15

That’s absolutely not what I’m seeing! Are you implying that Meghan/Harry critics are cool with Andrew’s behaviour? Good luck trying to push that line.

Why even would they be? Makes no sense.

A lot of posts here make no sense!

chunkyBoo · 23/10/2025 20:47

Spectre8 · 23/10/2025 19:15

Quite smart of them to leave even and away from the scandal now engulfing the Royal Family

Good lord … apart from the PA horrific behaviours, H&M ARE the bloody problem … there’s never going to be families who are completely snow-white, but they’re a very very VERY murky grey/brown swampy pair

Spectre8 · 23/10/2025 20:55

chunkyBoo · 23/10/2025 20:47

Good lord … apart from the PA horrific behaviours, H&M ARE the bloody problem … there’s never going to be families who are completely snow-white, but they’re a very very VERY murky grey/brown swampy pair

Yeah but you dont have to continue to stay with your family just because you must. Jesus. You wouldn't want to distance yourself if you had an Andrew in your family?

chunkyBoo · 23/10/2025 21:10

Spectre8 · 23/10/2025 20:55

Yeah but you dont have to continue to stay with your family just because you must. Jesus. You wouldn't want to distance yourself if you had an Andrew in your family?

He’s not why they left … nothing has ever pointed at that, they’re wayyy too shallow for that, and if it was PA surely they’d try to be supportive of the king and heir … but again, they can’t do that because they haven’t been given their own way and they flounced!

ozarina · 23/10/2025 21:16

jumpingthehighjump · 23/10/2025 18:26

Nope. Don't agree. I have never ever said I want to tie the two conversations together

Let's leave it there because I'm getting bored with this

That last line rings bells...

IAmATorturedPoet · 23/10/2025 21:29

Spectre8 · 23/10/2025 20:55

Yeah but you dont have to continue to stay with your family just because you must. Jesus. You wouldn't want to distance yourself if you had an Andrew in your family?

They didn’t actually want to distance themselves, they wanted to remain in the family fold but on their terms. If we are to believe recent reports, they now want back in.

crinkletits · 23/10/2025 21:46

chunkyBoo · 23/10/2025 10:33

Calling someone a racist, without any reason, isn’t the same. You’ve picked something to bait me, I’ve just said what Megain has proven herself to be. Completely different 🙄

I’ve just said what you’ve proven yourself to be.

AtIusvue · 23/10/2025 21:48

ChatHeeBeeGez6298 · 23/10/2025 17:55

There you go again posting as if what Harry and Meghan have done is somehow comparable with the potential criminal activities of Andrew and Sarah F?

If anything, what the uncovering of Prince Andrew’s misdemeanours show, is that Harry had very good reason to take his wife and family away from a family who literally paid millions to cover up the sexual abuse of young trafficked women perpetrated by one of their own!

And it’s certainly made a lie of any objection that the RF could possibly have to H & M’s proposal of being half in and half out, as it appears that the late Queen and current King have not only tolerated, but covered up, both Andrew and Sarah consistently carrying out charitable activities on the one hand, while making making lots of profitable and dubious business deals for themselves on the side! For decades! In Andrew’’s case while being funded by the British tax payer! All while living in a £30 million pound mansion on crown estate property! Oh the irony!

And by the way, I never recall H& M saying that they had retired. Or that they would remain hidden at home for that matter! They always said they would continue to support the charitable projects that they were involved and interested in.

Edited

This post is wild and makes no sense.

chunkyBoo · 23/10/2025 22:38

crinkletits · 23/10/2025 21:46

I’ve just said what you’ve proven yourself to be.

Nonsense … state EXACTLY how I have ‘proven’ myself to be racist ….

Tiredofbullsit · 24/10/2025 01:11

ozarina · 23/10/2025 21:16

That last line rings bells...

Always the same!

Tiredofbullsit · 24/10/2025 01:14

Spectre8 · 23/10/2025 20:55

Yeah but you dont have to continue to stay with your family just because you must. Jesus. You wouldn't want to distance yourself if you had an Andrew in your family?

I don’t know how to break this to you but I will say it again.

THEY DID NOT LEAVE THE ROYAL FAMILY TO GET AWAY FROM ANDREW!!!

You have serious comprehension issues!

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