Why is there more online vitriol towards Megan Markle than Andrew?

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I find it ridiculous how there is consistent hate towards Megan markle when she does pretty low key things like launching jam that no one is being forced to buy. People were delighted that she is no longer using HRH titles and even said she shouldn’t call herself the Duchess of Sussex (even though that is distinct from royal titles).

On the flip side - NO ONE has called for an actual investigation into Prince Andrew on the days that he claimed to be at Pizza Express in Woking, when his movements are logged by the royal gamily and his security detail so they eill
know exactly where he was!

He slept with an underage victim of sex trafficking who
conveniently died by suicide shortly before her memoir naming and shaming many individuals came out.

Limited criticism of the late Queen who used £12million
pg her personal money to pay off an underage sec trafficking victim & shielded him from any investigation.

Disgusted by it all and was amused to see the vitriol on an article about Megan breathing, whereas limited calls for Andrew to be investigated by any U.S or UK authorities!

WHY?

Aren’t Meghan and Harry just living their lives though? No one is forced to follow their activities or read sm posts or articles about them.

They left the RF because they weren’t allowed to combine charity work with royal duties - not that this stopped the wider family - they never said they were going to go and live under a rock.

Meghan was doing charity work before she met Harry and he is just doing the only things he knows how to do.

I agree with everyone it would be good if they lived more purposeful lives but their dc are young atm, and people have afforded C&W some grace on that score, so why not H&M?

I just find the level of criticism against them massively disproportionate.

Also, at this point, if Meghan left her mansion to go and buy loo roll, no doubt some tabloid would spin a story about it. There’s a cottage industry built around criticising her and whichever side of the argument you are on, surely most reasonable agree that the level of negativity aimed at her is too much now?

Ok … you do realise that most things in the media about H&M, particularly the ridiculous fairytale / were so wonderful bull is from them as ‘sources’.
as for the HIHO … it wasn’t charity work, they did a load of that with the RF, they were out to make money out of their RF ‘status’ … big bucks for being royals, pay as you show up crap … don’t forget in Australia Megan saying ‘I can’t believe I’m not being paid for this’ … they were after using and abusing all they could from their RF ties - they were told no … they flounced and have tried to do it anyway, except they’re like fish out of water without the Firm to make sure they’re doing things right and they keep failing and failing and failing … that’s it

And the wider family haven’t made money from their royal status?

What about them not being subject to inheritance tax?
What about William and Charles not paying corporation tax on the Duchies?
The entire system of royal warrants?
Do they pay full price on the Fortnum and Mason products they hand out to staff at Christmas?
What about their fleet of land rovers?
What about boxes at the Royal ballet and Royal opera?
Tables at restaurants?

Harry’s point I think was that all the rest of the family are at it, so why was he excluded from the gravy train?

My point is that you and others happily and repeatedly blame Meghan for bullying staff, accusations that are based on unproven allegations, but ignore all of the other allegations of bullying that have been widely reported within the wider royal household.

Is that a fact or an assumption you are making about ‘others’?

I’ve read repeated accusations about bullying in relation to Meghan on these threads over the years.

My point is that I haven’t seen a similar number of comments expressing outrage about Andrew bullying others, bugging his staff, letching on the nanny, screaming at an aide, or much outrage about the alleged Fawcett allegations.

The criticism is unbalanced.

Because he's not a working Royal. You don't pay the membership dues you don't get the benefits.

You mean Meghan was fleecing charities to further her profile 😂

You keep on repeating the same thing - you think the level of criticism is too much . Great! You're entitled to have that opinion. Others though don't agree with that and equally entitled to their opinion.

@ChatHeeBeeGez6298 you keep on going on about people not posting on a republican thread or one of the many Andrew threads - who are you? The thread police? I can tell you right now that you won't see me on any of those - or rarely - because I'm not interested enough to do so. So what? It means I'm not allowed to criticise Meghan? Please stop with these attempts to justify your opinions by dragging up some obtuse idea you have of rules of posting.

The Queen mother and Margaret died within a month of each other. I’ve always thought he just mixed up who died when in his recollections. Easy enough to do in my opinion. Especially as he wrote the book 20 years after it happened. He was 18 when they died I think? None of our memories are perfect. We don’t have permanent snapshots in our minds. It’s been known for quite some time that our memories change fractionally with each remembering.

I wasn’t looking for a step by step lifeline telling of his life when reading his book. I was looking to understand who he was, how he saw things and how he felt. I came away with quite a good understanding of the person Harry. As good as is possible from a book, For example Harry was Imperfect, hot headed, traumatised, capable of cruelty when young (the housemistress for example) and yet capable of real compassion, lacking parental guidance and (after his mother died), a boy who felt unloved - all come to my mind when recalling his book.

You are comparing apples with oranges.
There isn’t going to be the same amount of traffic on threads about Andrew because everyone is pretty much on the same page, it’s a nodding dog .

The lack of traffic (and the ability to be able to name change) means your statement that ‘others’ who aren’t posting on those threads are, by default, monarchists doesn’t stand up.

Traffic on the MM/PH threads are driven by those ‘for’, those ‘against’ and those in the middle. Two of those drivers are missing on the Andrew thread. 🤷‍♀️

In the same way ‘working’ members of the royal family do, you mean?

Possibly, yes.

There are very few Mother Theresa’s in life (and as it turns out Mother Theresa had her own reasons for doing good - not all wholly charitable, I’ve read)

They all do charitable works to raise their profile. The royal family members made their charitable works one of their ‘working’ conditions for the continued financial support by the public in the style they are accustomed to.

The old guard stuck to the deal, and Anne gets it, so does Charles. It’s part of the deal. For them to get out there and do good works and be seen. William seems to be doing what Anne has criticised as ‘reinventing the wheel.’ Whether that works or not is still to be seen. It won’t work for the tabloids, and I suspect they’ll fight it every inch of the way.

Hence Amanda Platell’s recent column criticising William’s recent trip to the ‘disastrous’ COP, and her criticisms of his playing volley ball and hugging babies while in Brazil when he should be home attending Remembrance Day services with Catherine. (Not my opinion)

@BeeWitchy no that's not what I mean. Meghan was costing charities bucks with first class flights etc.

Nearly every day there is some new information about Andrew - either more opinion pieces on Andrew’s involvement with Epstein or his questionable financial deals. They should constitute thread after thread on here. We may all agree but honestly shouldn’t we be discussing the full extent of Andy’s actions and how it effects us and the royal Family and, most important, any people he may done wrong by?

Not facile threads about how Meghan hung her beige Xmas stockings two weeks earlier than is normal for most people even though she was doing promo for her Christmas Netflix show.

Yes exactly what I was going to say Beewitchy

Alleged palace cover up of fraud > response is “not much to discuss here”

Meghan promotes her business on Instagram > cue lots of outrage!

I honestly don’t get it!

People are free to join any discussion on any subject and at any time of their choosing, this includes posting on what you call 'facile' threads. The expectation that posters should be on certain threads and not on others and judged accordingly is not how it works.

No one is stopping you from starting as many Andrew threads as you like but don't start telling others what threads, in your opinion, are worthy of discussion and what ones aren't.

If you think these threads are “facile”, I’m not sure why you are lowering yourself to post on them. Why don’t you take your superiority elsewhere 🤷‍♀️

Because maybe she doesn't want? She is allowed to post here as anyone else, you don't dictacte what people say or what they think. She won't take her opinions and 'superiority' as you say, anywhere unless it's what she wants.

Interesting that instead of attacking Andrew in this topic people double down on Meghan rumours. Glad to see that many people though, are with opened eyes here, aware of this kind of mindset.

Thread such as “Meghan’s back in the movies” which attracted 1,000 posters are a bit facile imho!

The ones about Andrew generally don’t attract so many posters which is odd and illustrates the point.

I agree that people are free to join any thread they like.

But I disagree that the subject matter of the majority of the Meghan threads are of equal importance to the UK as discussing the activities of Andrew when he was a member of the RF and being financed by the British tax payer.

Sorry but discussion about Megham’s jams or renewed film career are simply not as significant!

Nothing she has done to allegedly damage the UK is as significant as what Andrew has done. And what some members of the RF have done to cover it up.

But it seems to be the prevailing view that if you criticise the RF openly, you are more worthy of negative criticism than someone who commits fraud and has sex with trafficked minors because … at least they kept it hidden .. how decent of him!

If you thought it was a ‘facile’ thread, that’s fine you are entitled to your opinion. I imagine you gave that thread a complete swerve?

The lack of traffic on any Andrew thread really isn’t that odd for the reasons I mentioned up thread.

Good post. 👍

But I disagree that the subject matter of the majority of the Meghan threads are of equal importance to the UK as discussing the activities of Andrew when he was a member of the RF and being financed by the British tax payer.

I didn’t say they were of equal importance, in fact I said it was like comparing apples and oranges.

As has been posted several times.

Its difficult to keep a thread going for any length of time when everybody agrees.

Well obviously it's because everyone thinks he's a twat and has nothing good to say about it 🤷‍♀️ you sound disappointed as if you want people to praise him 😂 @chat