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Why is there more online vitriol towards Megan Markle than Andrew?

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ladykale · 22/10/2025 10:21

I find it ridiculous how there is consistent hate towards Megan markle when she does pretty low key things like launching jam that no one is being forced to buy. People were delighted that she is no longer using HRH titles and even said she shouldn’t call herself the Duchess of Sussex (even though that is distinct from royal titles).

On the flip side - NO ONE has called for an actual investigation into Prince Andrew on the days that he claimed to be at Pizza Express in Woking, when his movements are logged by the royal gamily and his security detail so they eill
know exactly where he was!

He slept with an underage victim of sex trafficking who
conveniently died by suicide shortly before her memoir naming and shaming many individuals came out.

Limited criticism of the late Queen who used £12million
pg her personal money to pay off an underage sec trafficking victim & shielded him from any investigation.

Disgusted by it all and was amused to see the vitriol on an article about Megan breathing, whereas limited calls for Andrew to be investigated by any U.S or UK authorities!

WHY?

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Fairgamer · 25/11/2025 15:10

prelovedusername · 25/11/2025 10:14

I’ve been thinking a lot about your post @ChatHeeBeeGez6298 and taken time before answering.

I don’t disagree with you on some points, there is an industry of criticism around her, and it’s grim.

But there’s a difference between YouTubers making an income out of taking her down, and people talking about her on sites like this.

These threads are essentially conversations between people (with the occasional bad actor
admittedly) that would take place across a table in real life. People are entitled to express their views, however negative. The complication is that these forums are public conversations that feel like private ones, so anyone including H and MM can see them. I understand that the effect of that could feel like bullying but that doesn’t mean it’s intended. And the crucial point is that they (H and MM) started it. What’s more, they continue to take pot shots, also in a very public way.

You say Jeremy Clarkson and Piers Morgan led the charge, but they didn’t. They put into colourful language what many of us were already feeling. To say that you’re surprised that people follow with so little objective thought is disingenuous. People have said very clearly what the objective reasons are for their criticism, you just don’t share them. You have decided to put the opposing view - which you are equally entitled to do - however it seems to me that you have often either not known or chosen to ignore some pertinent facts in order to defend them.

I have never understood why you do so, but in a way I’m glad you do. It’s good to have balance and perspective.

I also think some of the criticism here goes too far. But I remember what she unleashed when she attacked the royal family publicly and with full knowledge of what she was doing. So I’m sorry, but no sympathy.

I think she’s ruthless and self serving. It’s obvious she doesn’t give a thought to the pain she causes others. I’m sure you’ll
continue to speak up for them, but forgive me if I think that it’s you who lacks objectivity.

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So you are saying that people indeed shared Jeremy Clarkson feelings of pinch Meghan naked on street? This is extremely troublesome and I dare say even sociopathic.

Spectre8 · 25/11/2025 15:35

prelovedusername · 25/11/2025 10:14

I’ve been thinking a lot about your post @ChatHeeBeeGez6298 and taken time before answering.

I don’t disagree with you on some points, there is an industry of criticism around her, and it’s grim.

But there’s a difference between YouTubers making an income out of taking her down, and people talking about her on sites like this.

These threads are essentially conversations between people (with the occasional bad actor
admittedly) that would take place across a table in real life. People are entitled to express their views, however negative. The complication is that these forums are public conversations that feel like private ones, so anyone including H and MM can see them. I understand that the effect of that could feel like bullying but that doesn’t mean it’s intended. And the crucial point is that they (H and MM) started it. What’s more, they continue to take pot shots, also in a very public way.

You say Jeremy Clarkson and Piers Morgan led the charge, but they didn’t. They put into colourful language what many of us were already feeling. To say that you’re surprised that people follow with so little objective thought is disingenuous. People have said very clearly what the objective reasons are for their criticism, you just don’t share them. You have decided to put the opposing view - which you are equally entitled to do - however it seems to me that you have often either not known or chosen to ignore some pertinent facts in order to defend them.

I have never understood why you do so, but in a way I’m glad you do. It’s good to have balance and perspective.

I also think some of the criticism here goes too far. But I remember what she unleashed when she attacked the royal family publicly and with full knowledge of what she was doing. So I’m sorry, but no sympathy.

I think she’s ruthless and self serving. It’s obvious she doesn’t give a thought to the pain she causes others. I’m sure you’ll
continue to speak up for them, but forgive me if I think that it’s you who lacks objectivity.

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Conversations that would take place around a table in real life . ...

So how many of those have you had then? And with your family? Friends? How often would you be having them?

For some on here you post alot it would be daily

I certainly don't spend my time in real life discussing them with anyone ...noone in my circle gives two shits about them. Its not something that would ever come up.

chunkyBoo · 25/11/2025 15:45

Fairgamer · 25/11/2025 15:10

So you are saying that people indeed shared Jeremy Clarkson feelings of pinch Meghan naked on street? This is extremely troublesome and I dare say even sociopathic.

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@Fairgamer - you’re just considering what Jeremy said, rather than the inference of what he said. So people, many people, want to see Meghan AND Harry for that matter, pulled down a peg or 10,000. They’ve both 💩all over the RF, the institution built up over many years, and Great Britain too. using and abusing them, the wealth, the titles and all of the trappings therein. For some reason that’s ’not Good enough’ … for whom… a spare part and his faux wife (who married him for status) … both over entitled to the extreme and frankly not worthy. So yes perhaps not said very ‘respectfully’ but they, Especially Megain, trying to smear the name of the queen and RF just because they don’t get all the jewels, money and houses they wanted … they need bringing down to earth because currently they’re flying around in another galaxy they’re so above their own station
you need to listen to message, not the words - the messsge is loud and clear the vast majority of the world feel that way about those two

chunkyBoo · 25/11/2025 15:49

Spectre8 · 25/11/2025 15:35

Conversations that would take place around a table in real life . ...

So how many of those have you had then? And with your family? Friends? How often would you be having them?

For some on here you post alot it would be daily

I certainly don't spend my time in real life discussing them with anyone ...noone in my circle gives two shits about them. Its not something that would ever come up.

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🥱 … sorry @Spectre8 did you bore on about something again trying to get people to stop discussing these 🤡🤡

CountryChristmas · 25/11/2025 15:50

prelovedusername · 25/11/2025 10:14

I’ve been thinking a lot about your post @ChatHeeBeeGez6298 and taken time before answering.

I don’t disagree with you on some points, there is an industry of criticism around her, and it’s grim.

But there’s a difference between YouTubers making an income out of taking her down, and people talking about her on sites like this.

These threads are essentially conversations between people (with the occasional bad actor
admittedly) that would take place across a table in real life. People are entitled to express their views, however negative. The complication is that these forums are public conversations that feel like private ones, so anyone including H and MM can see them. I understand that the effect of that could feel like bullying but that doesn’t mean it’s intended. And the crucial point is that they (H and MM) started it. What’s more, they continue to take pot shots, also in a very public way.

You say Jeremy Clarkson and Piers Morgan led the charge, but they didn’t. They put into colourful language what many of us were already feeling. To say that you’re surprised that people follow with so little objective thought is disingenuous. People have said very clearly what the objective reasons are for their criticism, you just don’t share them. You have decided to put the opposing view - which you are equally entitled to do - however it seems to me that you have often either not known or chosen to ignore some pertinent facts in order to defend them.

I have never understood why you do so, but in a way I’m glad you do. It’s good to have balance and perspective.

I also think some of the criticism here goes too far. But I remember what she unleashed when she attacked the royal family publicly and with full knowledge of what she was doing. So I’m sorry, but no sympathy.

I think she’s ruthless and self serving. It’s obvious she doesn’t give a thought to the pain she causes others. I’m sure you’ll
continue to speak up for them, but forgive me if I think that it’s you who lacks objectivity.

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Some people here have referred to those YouTube channels as ‘evidence’ though.

If people say things like they do on here around a dinner table, it’s not like any dinner table I’ve been at.

Saying that these forums feel like they are private is an excuse. Everyone knows they are public, not private, and they don’t ‘feel’ private at all. I can’t believe anyone would actually use that as justification. I don’t think people necessarily want to bully as I don’t think they think Meghan will ever read it, I think it’s more that some posters get carried away and feel like they’re part of a a group here so they say more and more to get others on side, get a like etc.

I don’t think many people thought like Jeremy Clarkson did. Colourful language?It was misogyny, plain and simple. He went too far. Not justifiable at all. I know people who dislike Meghan but thought JC was very wrong. He has also made disgusting and racist comments previously so has form. The man should be ashamed. Saying he was using colourful language to say what everyone else was feeling, thankfully no one I know.

If what Meghan says is true, why shouldn’t she have said so publicly. Why should they hide it? I remember someone here saying even if was true, she shouldn’t air her dirty laundry in public, but I don’t agree with that. From her point of view, did the royals think of the pain they would cause her by doing what they did? But Meghan has to think about their pain? Seems one sided.

prelovedusername · 25/11/2025 15:51

Fairgamer · 25/11/2025 15:10

So you are saying that people indeed shared Jeremy Clarkson feelings of pinch Meghan naked on street? This is extremely troublesome and I dare say even sociopathic.

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Don’t be silly.

prelovedusername · 25/11/2025 15:52

Spectre8 · 25/11/2025 15:35

Conversations that would take place around a table in real life . ...

So how many of those have you had then? And with your family? Friends? How often would you be having them?

For some on here you post alot it would be daily

I certainly don't spend my time in real life discussing them with anyone ...noone in my circle gives two shits about them. Its not something that would ever come up.

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I said would take place. Keep up.

CountryChristmas · 25/11/2025 16:04

prelovedusername · 25/11/2025 15:52

I said would take place. Keep up.

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I wonder who these people are then that ‘would’. What demographics would they fall into I wonder? Why be patronising by telling the poster to ‘keep up’ when you’re not having these conversations at the dinner table so how are you so sure others are?

prelovedusername · 25/11/2025 16:05

CountryChristmas · 25/11/2025 15:50

Some people here have referred to those YouTube channels as ‘evidence’ though.

If people say things like they do on here around a dinner table, it’s not like any dinner table I’ve been at.

Saying that these forums feel like they are private is an excuse. Everyone knows they are public, not private, and they don’t ‘feel’ private at all. I can’t believe anyone would actually use that as justification. I don’t think people necessarily want to bully as I don’t think they think Meghan will ever read it, I think it’s more that some posters get carried away and feel like they’re part of a a group here so they say more and more to get others on side, get a like etc.

I don’t think many people thought like Jeremy Clarkson did. Colourful language?It was misogyny, plain and simple. He went too far. Not justifiable at all. I know people who dislike Meghan but thought JC was very wrong. He has also made disgusting and racist comments previously so has form. The man should be ashamed. Saying he was using colourful language to say what everyone else was feeling, thankfully no one I know.

If what Meghan says is true, why shouldn’t she have said so publicly. Why should they hide it? I remember someone here saying even if was true, she shouldn’t air her dirty laundry in public, but I don’t agree with that. From her point of view, did the royals think of the pain they would cause her by doing what they did? But Meghan has to think about their pain? Seems one sided.

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I think a lot of people think that Meghan Markle’s behaviour has been reprehensible, yes. The way Jeremy Clarkson expressed his views was unpleasant and he took it back. But he expressed disgust which is what many people feel.

I don’t think posters here are trying to be part of a group at all. It’s one thread on a forum that’s all about connecting with others for whatever reason. Here it’s to discuss a public figure who, by the way, very much seeks publicity and wants to be talked about.

Your point about Meghan Markle’s right to speak her truth is irrelevant. She isn’t capable of it.

prelovedusername · 25/11/2025 16:06

CountryChristmas · 25/11/2025 16:04

I wonder who these people are then that ‘would’. What demographics would they fall into I wonder? Why be patronising by telling the poster to ‘keep up’ when you’re not having these conversations at the dinner table so how are you so sure others are?

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Wonder away.

chunkyBoo · 25/11/2025 16:11

CountryChristmas · 25/11/2025 15:50

Some people here have referred to those YouTube channels as ‘evidence’ though.

If people say things like they do on here around a dinner table, it’s not like any dinner table I’ve been at.

Saying that these forums feel like they are private is an excuse. Everyone knows they are public, not private, and they don’t ‘feel’ private at all. I can’t believe anyone would actually use that as justification. I don’t think people necessarily want to bully as I don’t think they think Meghan will ever read it, I think it’s more that some posters get carried away and feel like they’re part of a a group here so they say more and more to get others on side, get a like etc.

I don’t think many people thought like Jeremy Clarkson did. Colourful language?It was misogyny, plain and simple. He went too far. Not justifiable at all. I know people who dislike Meghan but thought JC was very wrong. He has also made disgusting and racist comments previously so has form. The man should be ashamed. Saying he was using colourful language to say what everyone else was feeling, thankfully no one I know.

If what Meghan says is true, why shouldn’t she have said so publicly. Why should they hide it? I remember someone here saying even if was true, she shouldn’t air her dirty laundry in public, but I don’t agree with that. From her point of view, did the royals think of the pain they would cause her by doing what they did? But Meghan has to think about their pain? Seems one sided.

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Yes but what did the RF do exactly? She and Harry have lied about so many things, I think they just threw their toys out of the pram, said it was everyone else, I was thrown under the bus, they were racist, we were
actually married days before the actual wedding (that was a
two finger salute to the British public who paid for her wedding) …

CountryChristmas · 25/11/2025 16:12

prelovedusername · 25/11/2025 16:06

Wonder away.

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I’m not surprised that this is your only response.

CountryChristmas · 25/11/2025 16:17

chunkyBoo · 25/11/2025 16:11

Yes but what did the RF do exactly? She and Harry have lied about so many things, I think they just threw their toys out of the pram, said it was everyone else, I was thrown under the bus, they were racist, we were
actually married days before the actual wedding (that was a
two finger salute to the British public who paid for her wedding) …

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From Meghan (and Harry’s) point of view, quite a lot by the sounds of it. I did say ‘from Meghans point of view’ in my last post. I don’t know the truth, I don’t think any of us ever will, but my point is that if someone feels wronged, I don’t think they have to keep it private and hidden. If someone does something bad to you and therefore didn’t care about your feelings, why should you care about theirs. Now whether they were wronged or not, who knows.

CountryChristmas · 25/11/2025 16:21

prelovedusername · 25/11/2025 16:05

I think a lot of people think that Meghan Markle’s behaviour has been reprehensible, yes. The way Jeremy Clarkson expressed his views was unpleasant and he took it back. But he expressed disgust which is what many people feel.

I don’t think posters here are trying to be part of a group at all. It’s one thread on a forum that’s all about connecting with others for whatever reason. Here it’s to discuss a public figure who, by the way, very much seeks publicity and wants to be talked about.

Your point about Meghan Markle’s right to speak her truth is irrelevant. She isn’t capable of it.

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Unpleasant? That word is carrying a lot of weight there. He took it back? That doesn’t mean it’s ok. He thought it and put it out there to the world. He’s a disgusting, misogynistic piece of shit who has been racist in the past. It so far past ‘unpleasant’.

It’s not one thread, it’s lots of threads.

It’s not irrelevant. There is lots that we will never know and if she feels wronged, she can speak out.

ozarina · 25/11/2025 16:38

prelovedusername · 25/11/2025 10:14

I’ve been thinking a lot about your post @ChatHeeBeeGez6298 and taken time before answering.

I don’t disagree with you on some points, there is an industry of criticism around her, and it’s grim.

But there’s a difference between YouTubers making an income out of taking her down, and people talking about her on sites like this.

These threads are essentially conversations between people (with the occasional bad actor
admittedly) that would take place across a table in real life. People are entitled to express their views, however negative. The complication is that these forums are public conversations that feel like private ones, so anyone including H and MM can see them. I understand that the effect of that could feel like bullying but that doesn’t mean it’s intended. And the crucial point is that they (H and MM) started it. What’s more, they continue to take pot shots, also in a very public way.

You say Jeremy Clarkson and Piers Morgan led the charge, but they didn’t. They put into colourful language what many of us were already feeling. To say that you’re surprised that people follow with so little objective thought is disingenuous. People have said very clearly what the objective reasons are for their criticism, you just don’t share them. You have decided to put the opposing view - which you are equally entitled to do - however it seems to me that you have often either not known or chosen to ignore some pertinent facts in order to defend them.

I have never understood why you do so, but in a way I’m glad you do. It’s good to have balance and perspective.

I also think some of the criticism here goes too far. But I remember what she unleashed when she attacked the royal family publicly and with full knowledge of what she was doing. So I’m sorry, but no sympathy.

I think she’s ruthless and self serving. It’s obvious she doesn’t give a thought to the pain she causes others. I’m sure you’ll
continue to speak up for them, but forgive me if I think that it’s you who lacks objectivity.

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Yes I agree with this. There's something about Meghan Markle that has sparked so much criticism, discussion and yes ridicule whether it is in the form of a cutting article or spoofs or Reddit or MN and ones I'm sure I don't even know about. It shows the worst of SM in that anyone can put their thoughts forward.
However it is also the same sphere that she has courted with her interviews, podcasts, shows etc. The facility she uses also hits back. Nothing Meghan ever does will be without criticism I believe. Why is it ? What is it about her?
I don't accept the lazy racism argument . It's not because of her colour. It's not because she didn't want a life in the RF. Partly it's more to do with the fact that she thought she could teach the RF a thing or too. No one likes a bawbag. No one likes a Walter Mitty liar and Meghan has displayed both of these. Harry hasn't helped with his whingeing and whining either.
People globally hear all the endless " stuff" about jams and pancakes and charity and it seems to strike a negative chord. Yes the press need to dig up trash all the time but the Sussexes laid themselves out as a target. They are people with no substance other than their own belief that they turn up and do good AND have to tell everyone about it. It's this - it's the look at how great we are. They are people of no substance.

Mylovelygreendress · 25/11/2025 16:41

CountryChristmas · 25/11/2025 15:50

Some people here have referred to those YouTube channels as ‘evidence’ though.

If people say things like they do on here around a dinner table, it’s not like any dinner table I’ve been at.

Saying that these forums feel like they are private is an excuse. Everyone knows they are public, not private, and they don’t ‘feel’ private at all. I can’t believe anyone would actually use that as justification. I don’t think people necessarily want to bully as I don’t think they think Meghan will ever read it, I think it’s more that some posters get carried away and feel like they’re part of a a group here so they say more and more to get others on side, get a like etc.

I don’t think many people thought like Jeremy Clarkson did. Colourful language?It was misogyny, plain and simple. He went too far. Not justifiable at all. I know people who dislike Meghan but thought JC was very wrong. He has also made disgusting and racist comments previously so has form. The man should be ashamed. Saying he was using colourful language to say what everyone else was feeling, thankfully no one I know.

If what Meghan says is true, why shouldn’t she have said so publicly. Why should they hide it? I remember someone here saying even if was true, she shouldn’t air her dirty laundry in public, but I don’t agree with that. From her point of view, did the royals think of the pain they would cause her by doing what they did? But Meghan has to think about their pain? Seems one sided.

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But what did the RF do that was so awful ? No one has ever answered that ? Posters throw around expressions such as “ they were thrown under a bus” but ask for examples and nothing is forthcoming .
H and M had a wedding costing £30+ million , 24/7 security , luxury travel , a house updated to their specifications, staff , luxury travel , jewels , unlimited clothes budget for Meghan etc
So what was awful ?

Fairgamer · 25/11/2025 16:49

prelovedusername · 25/11/2025 15:51

Don’t be silly.

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Then could you elaborate why you said people shared the same Clarkson's thoughts? I'm pretty sure many people have criticism towards members of the royal family, including Harry and Meghan. But people sharing that level of hate, including wanting to parade a female member of the royal family naked in the streets, well, it's new to me, also really worrying, it points to sick people or a even a sick society. Thankfully, I never met personally someone like that, other than online trolls and botts, but maybe I'm lucky to be among a bubble of educated and sane people and I'm interested in your experience, as this comment that this kind of thought is normalized is particularly shocking.

jeffgoldblum · 25/11/2025 16:50

Mylovelygreendress · 25/11/2025 16:41

But what did the RF do that was so awful ? No one has ever answered that ? Posters throw around expressions such as “ they were thrown under a bus” but ask for examples and nothing is forthcoming .
H and M had a wedding costing £30+ million , 24/7 security , luxury travel , a house updated to their specifications, staff , luxury travel , jewels , unlimited clothes budget for Meghan etc
So what was awful ?

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As far as I can tell…..
Harry got less sausage than William
smaller bedroom in a castle than William
not given the exact same privileges as William ( despite being at different levels)
catherine didn’t take Meghan shopping
catherine wasn’t enthusiastic enough about lending lipgloss.
they weren’t allowed a wedding the same as Catherine and William.
they weren’t catapulted into the same category or higher than Catherine and William.
the royal family didn’t stop the media from printing anything that wasn’t complimentary to them .
They weren’t allowed to use their titles as a means for personal financial gain.
they were told no.

prelovedusername · 25/11/2025 16:52

my point is that if someone feels wronged, I don’t think they have to keep it private and hidden. If someone does something bad to you and therefore didn’t care about your feelings, why should you care about theirs.

So by that logic wouldn’t you agree that it should be acceptable for people to speak out about how they feel when Meghan Markle calls their royal family and their press and by extension their nation “racist”?

prelovedusername · 25/11/2025 16:54

CountryChristmas · 25/11/2025 16:12

I’m not surprised that this is your only response.

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I’m not responding to sarcastic and condescending comments. Happy to engage with you on actual substance. See my post above.

CountryChristmas · 25/11/2025 16:54

Mylovelygreendress · 25/11/2025 16:41

But what did the RF do that was so awful ? No one has ever answered that ? Posters throw around expressions such as “ they were thrown under a bus” but ask for examples and nothing is forthcoming .
H and M had a wedding costing £30+ million , 24/7 security , luxury travel , a house updated to their specifications, staff , luxury travel , jewels , unlimited clothes budget for Meghan etc
So what was awful ?

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From Meghan and Harry’s point of view, all the things they have mentioned. I’m sure everyone here is familiar with those things whether they agree with them/believe them or not.

CountryChristmas · 25/11/2025 16:55

prelovedusername · 25/11/2025 16:54

I’m not responding to sarcastic and condescending comments. Happy to engage with you on actual substance. See my post above.

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Oh the irony.

Mylovelygreendress · 25/11/2025 17:33

CountryChristmas · 25/11/2025 16:54

From Meghan and Harry’s point of view, all the things they have mentioned. I’m sure everyone here is familiar with those things whether they agree with them/believe them or not.

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Even though many things they claimed are provable lies ?

Fairgamer · 25/11/2025 19:01

chunkyBoo · 25/11/2025 15:45

@Fairgamer - you’re just considering what Jeremy said, rather than the inference of what he said. So people, many people, want to see Meghan AND Harry for that matter, pulled down a peg or 10,000. They’ve both 💩all over the RF, the institution built up over many years, and Great Britain too. using and abusing them, the wealth, the titles and all of the trappings therein. For some reason that’s ’not Good enough’ … for whom… a spare part and his faux wife (who married him for status) … both over entitled to the extreme and frankly not worthy. So yes perhaps not said very ‘respectfully’ but they, Especially Megain, trying to smear the name of the queen and RF just because they don’t get all the jewels, money and houses they wanted … they need bringing down to earth because currently they’re flying around in another galaxy they’re so above their own station
you need to listen to message, not the words - the messsge is loud and clear the vast majority of the world feel that way about those two

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I have to be honest, I’m disturbed by what you’re implying. Even if you frame it as “just sentiment” or “inference,” the idea that people want to see a woman paraded naked in public is beyond vile. That’s not criticism, it’s imagined violence, and it’s not acceptable to normalize or excuse it by saying it’s just a feeling or a reaction to perceived entitlement.

You can disagree with someone, even strongly, without ever fantasizing about harming or humiliating them and justifying this kind of thing. Painting that kind of imagery as “the public just wants them humbled” crosses a line from critique into dehumanization. There’s no polite way to frame it, this is not okay. Also, focusing so much on Meghan’s childhood or ballet and brand habits while Andrew’s documented sexual abuse is barely addressed by people like you in this topic, shows a serious double standard. Critique should be proportional and factual, what you’re defending honestly, isn’t.

chunkyBoo · 25/11/2025 19:06

CountryChristmas · 25/11/2025 16:17

From Meghan (and Harry’s) point of view, quite a lot by the sounds of it. I did say ‘from Meghans point of view’ in my last post. I don’t know the truth, I don’t think any of us ever will, but my point is that if someone feels wronged, I don’t think they have to keep it private and hidden. If someone does something bad to you and therefore didn’t care about your feelings, why should you care about theirs. Now whether they were wronged or not, who knows.

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Ok, but the facts are she’s lied, lied and lied again, time after time, including in court and was caught out … I can’t trust a thing she says and I’m not in the minority!