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Why is there more online vitriol towards Megan Markle than Andrew?

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ladykale · 22/10/2025 10:21

I find it ridiculous how there is consistent hate towards Megan markle when she does pretty low key things like launching jam that no one is being forced to buy. People were delighted that she is no longer using HRH titles and even said she shouldn’t call herself the Duchess of Sussex (even though that is distinct from royal titles).

On the flip side - NO ONE has called for an actual investigation into Prince Andrew on the days that he claimed to be at Pizza Express in Woking, when his movements are logged by the royal gamily and his security detail so they eill
know exactly where he was!

He slept with an underage victim of sex trafficking who
conveniently died by suicide shortly before her memoir naming and shaming many individuals came out.

Limited criticism of the late Queen who used £12million
pg her personal money to pay off an underage sec trafficking victim & shielded him from any investigation.

Disgusted by it all and was amused to see the vitriol on an article about Megan breathing, whereas limited calls for Andrew to be investigated by any U.S or UK authorities!

WHY?

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NewAgeNewMe · 24/11/2025 10:02

AliceMcK · 24/11/2025 09:40

Hi Buckingham Palace 😂😂😂

Don’t be childish. Comments like yours don’t help.

I wouldn’t say AMW is a scapegoat, but he’s certainly been useful in getting the Americans to look the other way. Clinton and Trump.

Why is there only a British woman behind bars? All those vile men and only a woman behind bars and one man dead.

Those poor girls. They deserve justice.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 24/11/2025 10:15

jeffgoldblum · 24/11/2025 00:52

That is your opinion only , unless you are willing to prove that those comments are “twisted “ and “unverified “ then they hold just as much legitimacy as the comments you have made yourself, and as far as I can tell from this thread in particular none of the things posted were false and those that were made by posters answering questions made by another poster were couched as rumours and not presented as fact.
you made nasty accusations about @BigWillyLittleTodgerand insinuated that she was a member of a website that you deemed hateful, no proof of this but your feelings and opinion.
I have my own view and am able to point out things I notice too.

Thank you @jeffgoldblum Firstly I would like to correct the previous poster who says that the quote about Meghan and Getty was from a “Saint Meghan Markle subreddit” as claimed. The quote was lifted from here if posters wish to read it.

roberteringer.substack.com/p/the-meghan-markle-gordon-getty-connection

BigWillyLittleTodger · 24/11/2025 10:18

The second quote about Meghan and Getty was from The Telegraph it’s behind a paywall if posters wish to read it.

Indianrollerbird · 24/11/2025 10:25

prelovedusername · 24/11/2025 08:39

Her background is mixed, they seem to have been a hard up family living in a good neighbourhood. Thomas Markle made good money at times but I don’t think her home life was that privileged.

I don’t think people disliked her because of her class though, any more than they cared about her colour. And given her relationship with Harry I think her sex would have been more of an issue if she’d been male.

She went to one of (if not the) best private schools in LA, and her dad was an Emmy Award winning lighting director on 2 household name shows. He was the one who got her on Nikelodean TV for the dish soap thing - by using his industry connections. She’s talked about going to ballet and tap lessons most days, growing up on tv sets and dad taking her to fancy restaurants. They were not a hard up family. Not particularly cultured, perhaps, and Thomas and Doria were probably lower middle class by birth, but Meghan did not grow up poor, and her achievements were modest given the significant leg up she was given through her schooling.

AliceMcK · 24/11/2025 10:25

NewAgeNewMe · 24/11/2025 10:02

Don’t be childish. Comments like yours don’t help.

I wouldn’t say AMW is a scapegoat, but he’s certainly been useful in getting the Americans to look the other way. Clinton and Trump.

Why is there only a British woman behind bars? All those vile men and only a woman behind bars and one man dead.

Those poor girls. They deserve justice.

O be serious, MM was used as a scapegoat to direct from pervey Andrew it was only when this failed that anything was done about him. He has by no means been used as a “scapegoat” which I think is a ridiculous thing to say he’s at the very least been shown who he really is, you can’t even say he’s been held accountable as he will never go to America for this to happen.

i also have no sympathy for GM she’s reaping what she’s sown.

The 2 of them have learnt that they are not as big and important as they thought they were.

Maybe if the British hadn’t been looking to other way from GM, Andrew and other high profile British child abusers then this wouldn’t be happing now.

And your extremely naive if you think that the palace of others aren’t out there working behind the scenes on forums like this trying to divert the focus away from the RF.

ozarina · 24/11/2025 10:26

There's a very easy answer for people who don't like to read talk or criticism of Meghan Markle. Don't do it 🤷‍♀️. People who flaunt themselves in the public eye by doing Instagram, interviews, magazine covers , galas etc can expect to be talked about. After all why are they doing it ? People who don't are not. Meghan cannot control her mouth and she exposes other people in her quest for fame eg Victoria Jackson. After Meghan's reveal about using VJ's plane, houses etc I'm seeing various articles about who is this woman? Why is she so closely involved with MM? Such is the down side of putting yourself out there.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 24/11/2025 10:38

I would like to point out this whole conversation about Meghan and Getty was because @AllThisTime kept pushing and pushing for answers to a one off post and then when given the answer asked more questions and wanted photos, the conversation would have died a death if that poster had looked the information up themselves. If you don’t want to hear unsavoury things about Meghan which have been printed in reputable publications then you really should just ignore posts that upset you, to then accuse posters who provide that information of spreading “hate” and suggesting that posters belong to those so called hate sites is really bad form.

ozarina · 24/11/2025 10:42

Here's one from Glamour written by Meghan herself.

https://www.glamour.com/story/exclusive-meghan-markle-dishes

Why is there more online vitriol towards Megan Markle than Andrew?
NewAgeNewMe · 24/11/2025 10:47

AliceMcK · 24/11/2025 10:25

O be serious, MM was used as a scapegoat to direct from pervey Andrew it was only when this failed that anything was done about him. He has by no means been used as a “scapegoat” which I think is a ridiculous thing to say he’s at the very least been shown who he really is, you can’t even say he’s been held accountable as he will never go to America for this to happen.

i also have no sympathy for GM she’s reaping what she’s sown.

The 2 of them have learnt that they are not as big and important as they thought they were.

Maybe if the British hadn’t been looking to other way from GM, Andrew and other high profile British child abusers then this wouldn’t be happing now.

And your extremely naive if you think that the palace of others aren’t out there working behind the scenes on forums like this trying to divert the focus away from the RF.

Make no mistake. Andrew deserves everything thrown at him and more. I can also, well believe, that he’s being used to distract from high profile Americans. I hope they all face justice. Those girls deserve it.

But in Andrew’s shoes, I wouldn’t go to the US either. I doubt many would. I’d be happy to speak to them in the uk though and frankly he should.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 24/11/2025 10:56

All this ridiculous Meghan is a scapegoat for Andrew nonsense, these threads, YouTube channels, mainstream media on both sides of the Atlantic would all still exist and be just as scathing if Andrew hadn’t even been born, none of it is to do with covering up Andrew, it’s because many find her a deeply unpleasant individual because of her words and actions, it’s really no deeper than that.

ozarina · 24/11/2025 11:00

Sometimes I think Meghan has done so much that we forget about some of it. The list would be very long if drawn up.

Indianrollerbird · 24/11/2025 11:02

jeffgoldblum · 24/11/2025 08:32

Flattered but not interested sorry .

I don’t know why you are personally being targeted and attacked and followed around the board over the stolen dress story. It is literally all over the media yesterday and today. The original source for the story is a serious and respected journalist and author, Vanessa Grigoriadis, and she made the allegation on a serious and respected podcast, Heretics.

MissFenellaPrism · 24/11/2025 11:02

Indianrollerbird · 24/11/2025 10:25

She went to one of (if not the) best private schools in LA, and her dad was an Emmy Award winning lighting director on 2 household name shows. He was the one who got her on Nikelodean TV for the dish soap thing - by using his industry connections. She’s talked about going to ballet and tap lessons most days, growing up on tv sets and dad taking her to fancy restaurants. They were not a hard up family. Not particularly cultured, perhaps, and Thomas and Doria were probably lower middle class by birth, but Meghan did not grow up poor, and her achievements were modest given the significant leg up she was given through her schooling.

Exactly this. Plus, didn't an uncle get her a coveted internship at an embassy?

jeffgoldblum · 24/11/2025 11:05

Indianrollerbird · 24/11/2025 11:02

I don’t know why you are personally being targeted and attacked and followed around the board over the stolen dress story. It is literally all over the media yesterday and today. The original source for the story is a serious and respected journalist and author, Vanessa Grigoriadis, and she made the allegation on a serious and respected podcast, Heretics.

Nice ( or not!) to have a dedicated fan @Indianrollerbird🤷‍♀️🤣

Indianrollerbird · 24/11/2025 11:06

MissFenellaPrism · 24/11/2025 11:02

Exactly this. Plus, didn't an uncle get her a coveted internship at an embassy?

Yes, well remembered! A brother of her father working in a diplomatic role and getting her an internship does not sound like hard up and working class!

BigWillyLittleTodger · 24/11/2025 11:18

MissFenellaPrism · 24/11/2025 11:02

Exactly this. Plus, didn't an uncle get her a coveted internship at an embassy?

I think that was the Uncle who didn’t get an invite to her wedding, he was upset about that, I think he has died now.

Indianrollerbird · 24/11/2025 11:38

BigWillyLittleTodger · 24/11/2025 11:18

I think that was the Uncle who didn’t get an invite to her wedding, he was upset about that, I think he has died now.

Nobody but her mum got an invitation. I always wonder about the extended Ragland family and how excluded they must have felt. I can understand her not wanting the horrible brother and sister there, but the diplomat uncle did something for her that’s afforded her one of her go to anecdotes, so to exclude him was poor.

ozarina · 24/11/2025 12:03

Looking back it was just so strange. Her on her own floating down the aisle.

chunkyBoo · 24/11/2025 12:08

ozarina · 24/11/2025 12:03

Looking back it was just so strange. Her on her own floating down the aisle.

Absolutely! Literally her, her mum, a couple of actors she knew and a bunch of A listers she didn’t know but wanted to cozy up to.
what’s bizarre is that if they got married now, neither side of the church would have any family members, no old school chums of Hazzas, it would be a very empty church now the A listers are avoiding any eye or phone contact with her … seeing as she’s burnt through most of the PR companies working for all the A listers in Hollywood then I’m sure those companies are sounding the ‘avoid’ klaxon to their clients about the Harkle clowns

Mylovelygreendress · 24/11/2025 13:43

MissFenellaPrism · 24/11/2025 11:02

Exactly this. Plus, didn't an uncle get her a coveted internship at an embassy?

Indeed but still didn’t get invited to the wedding !

RescueMeFromThisSilliness · 24/11/2025 15:56

Indianrollerbird · 24/11/2025 10:25

She went to one of (if not the) best private schools in LA, and her dad was an Emmy Award winning lighting director on 2 household name shows. He was the one who got her on Nikelodean TV for the dish soap thing - by using his industry connections. She’s talked about going to ballet and tap lessons most days, growing up on tv sets and dad taking her to fancy restaurants. They were not a hard up family. Not particularly cultured, perhaps, and Thomas and Doria were probably lower middle class by birth, but Meghan did not grow up poor, and her achievements were modest given the significant leg up she was given through her schooling.

It is truly amazing just how often she talks (or maybe it is everyone else talking) about how she went to ballet classes. So what?

Millions of people all over the world went to ballet classes when they were a kid. Millions more will have learned the recorder, or did judo, or played hockey for their school. Do they keep going on and on about it decades later? Does it have any effect whatsoever on their adult life? No, of course not.

prelovedusername · 24/11/2025 18:38

Piecing together what we do know, that Thomas Markle is not that good with money and Doria seems to have nothing in the way of a solid career behind her, I get the feeling that hers was a feast or famine childhood. If there was money, it didn’t last. We know from Doria that M was embarrassed about her modest home, even though it was in a good neighbourhood.

She was given advantages but not the ones money can’t buy, class and stability. It doesn’t surprise me that she has reimagined what must have been a precarious life as a child. It doesn’t sound great to me.

prelovedusername · 25/11/2025 10:14

ChatHeeBeeGez6298 · 24/11/2025 09:35

Because there is an entire cottage industry devoted to spreading negativity about this one woman and I object to that on principle. And every negative post on here and elsewhere adds up to a campaign of hatred.

And the number of negative articles, sm threads, videos, articles about her are wildly disproportionate to anything she has done. And there is a nasty glee evident in posters who rush to disparage her latest project, appearance or event.

At this point, it all amounts to online bullying; and influential misogynistic broadcasters like Jeremy Clarkson and Piers Morgan have lead the charge very effectively. It’s surprising to me that some people choose to blindly follow with so little objective thought.

You don’t have to like her or her actions, but I think most people with a degree of rationality about them can see that this has all gone way beyond a little “ridiculing” or a “little banter” or even “dislike” or all the other inadequate excuses that people are using to justify a full-on, global hate campaign.

I have absolute no doubt that some of this negative campaign against Meghan is strategic across the three main English-speaking domains in UK, US and Oz, involving very conveniently timed leaks of negative press stories, which is what happens when you leave the RF. The BP PR machine is well resourced and powerful, We’ve seen it all before with Diana. How people can take it all at face value in 2025 given what we know is disappointing. Let’s just say that the focus on Meghan & Harry has been very useful to some other members of the RF.

I don’t follow US celebrities and I don’t care for that world particularly, and I don’t agree with the way H&M orchestrated their exit from the RF, but I defend her right to leave without being continuously abused on sm I can’t imagine what it must be like to have to get up every day and be aware of the barrage of hatred being aimed your way. Seriously, how much can one person take?

At this point posters will say that she doesn’t look at sm, but you can’t be a celebrity in the USA and not be aware of things written about you. Every time she picks up her phone, listens to the radio, goes to a supermarket or a hairdresser, she will see the stories and the comment, even if she tries to avoid it.

I don’t care what she has done, I really dislike bullying of any sort, and this has gone too far now. We all know when something is right or wrong instinctively don’t we; and this has gone too far now imho. Especially against someone who has previously talked about feeling suicidal,

I’ve been thinking a lot about your post @ChatHeeBeeGez6298 and taken time before answering.

I don’t disagree with you on some points, there is an industry of criticism around her, and it’s grim.

But there’s a difference between YouTubers making an income out of taking her down, and people talking about her on sites like this.

These threads are essentially conversations between people (with the occasional bad actor
admittedly) that would take place across a table in real life. People are entitled to express their views, however negative. The complication is that these forums are public conversations that feel like private ones, so anyone including H and MM can see them. I understand that the effect of that could feel like bullying but that doesn’t mean it’s intended. And the crucial point is that they (H and MM) started it. What’s more, they continue to take pot shots, also in a very public way.

You say Jeremy Clarkson and Piers Morgan led the charge, but they didn’t. They put into colourful language what many of us were already feeling. To say that you’re surprised that people follow with so little objective thought is disingenuous. People have said very clearly what the objective reasons are for their criticism, you just don’t share them. You have decided to put the opposing view - which you are equally entitled to do - however it seems to me that you have often either not known or chosen to ignore some pertinent facts in order to defend them.

I have never understood why you do so, but in a way I’m glad you do. It’s good to have balance and perspective.

I also think some of the criticism here goes too far. But I remember what she unleashed when she attacked the royal family publicly and with full knowledge of what she was doing. So I’m sorry, but no sympathy.

I think she’s ruthless and self serving. It’s obvious she doesn’t give a thought to the pain she causes others. I’m sure you’ll
continue to speak up for them, but forgive me if I think that it’s you who lacks objectivity.

jeffgoldblum · 25/11/2025 13:33

prelovedusername · 25/11/2025 10:14

I’ve been thinking a lot about your post @ChatHeeBeeGez6298 and taken time before answering.

I don’t disagree with you on some points, there is an industry of criticism around her, and it’s grim.

But there’s a difference between YouTubers making an income out of taking her down, and people talking about her on sites like this.

These threads are essentially conversations between people (with the occasional bad actor
admittedly) that would take place across a table in real life. People are entitled to express their views, however negative. The complication is that these forums are public conversations that feel like private ones, so anyone including H and MM can see them. I understand that the effect of that could feel like bullying but that doesn’t mean it’s intended. And the crucial point is that they (H and MM) started it. What’s more, they continue to take pot shots, also in a very public way.

You say Jeremy Clarkson and Piers Morgan led the charge, but they didn’t. They put into colourful language what many of us were already feeling. To say that you’re surprised that people follow with so little objective thought is disingenuous. People have said very clearly what the objective reasons are for their criticism, you just don’t share them. You have decided to put the opposing view - which you are equally entitled to do - however it seems to me that you have often either not known or chosen to ignore some pertinent facts in order to defend them.

I have never understood why you do so, but in a way I’m glad you do. It’s good to have balance and perspective.

I also think some of the criticism here goes too far. But I remember what she unleashed when she attacked the royal family publicly and with full knowledge of what she was doing. So I’m sorry, but no sympathy.

I think she’s ruthless and self serving. It’s obvious she doesn’t give a thought to the pain she causes others. I’m sure you’ll
continue to speak up for them, but forgive me if I think that it’s you who lacks objectivity.

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Excellent post , well thought out , I agree fully.