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Why is there more online vitriol towards Megan Markle than Andrew?

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ladykale · 22/10/2025 10:21

I find it ridiculous how there is consistent hate towards Megan markle when she does pretty low key things like launching jam that no one is being forced to buy. People were delighted that she is no longer using HRH titles and even said she shouldn’t call herself the Duchess of Sussex (even though that is distinct from royal titles).

On the flip side - NO ONE has called for an actual investigation into Prince Andrew on the days that he claimed to be at Pizza Express in Woking, when his movements are logged by the royal gamily and his security detail so they eill
know exactly where he was!

He slept with an underage victim of sex trafficking who
conveniently died by suicide shortly before her memoir naming and shaming many individuals came out.

Limited criticism of the late Queen who used £12million
pg her personal money to pay off an underage sec trafficking victim & shielded him from any investigation.

Disgusted by it all and was amused to see the vitriol on an article about Megan breathing, whereas limited calls for Andrew to be investigated by any U.S or UK authorities!

WHY?

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BigWillyLittleTodger · 21/11/2025 14:21

Fairgamer · 21/11/2025 13:34

It wasn't false the proof it there. Have a good day.

@BigWillyLittleTodger I understand what you mean. I don't think Harry is beyond criticism, particularly I think everyone in that family is shady including Harry, but him and Meghan are the lesser of the evils, beyond being annoying sometimes. What I was pointing is that he talked about Andrew and that Andrew getting security and protection influenced the rift with his family, he wasn't alright with it. It was, for sure not the primary reason for him to leaving indeed, but it was one of the many factors that influenced him not wanting back by seeing how his family operated and their priorities. Now, it's fair to point the hypocrisy that initially HM wanted half in and half out, but that's actually what happened historically so they defaulted to it. Though, the accusation that Andrew had nothing to do with them leaving and breaking with the family is not exactly correct.

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The Queen told Harry that he would loose his security before he left, he knew that, so that reasoning doesn’t hold up, also it is not the royal family’s decision as to whether Andrew had publicly funded security or not that is down to RAVEC and it was deemed unnecessary and removed in 2022 so it is nothing to do with the Royal family’s priorities. Andrew lives in royal grounds so of course by default he is protected as you or I would be if we rented any of the properties in royal grounds. Harry wanted/wants close protection officers at the British tax payers expense, for some reason he won’t accept that Pa can’t provide that, so if that’s causing a rift that’s on Harry no one else. Harry leaving has nothing to do with Andrew being a sexual predator at all which was your initial implication.

jeffgoldblum · 21/11/2025 14:28

@Fairgamerthe proof that Harry left because Andrew was a sexual predator are not there. Have a good day.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 21/11/2025 14:34

him and Meghan are the lesser of the evils, beyond being annoying sometimes

I really don’t like this minimisation and brushing under the carpet of their awful behaviour. I watched a program called The Queen’s terrible year, and it was highlighting the damage the racism claims caused on the world stage, the Queen’s life’s work was the Commonwealth, I’m sure the Queen found it more than a bit annoying that her grandson tried to destroy her legacy, at least she didn’t have to endure the Netflix degradation of her work, Empire 2.0 remember? Plus Prince Philip was literally on his deathbed while the interview was broadcast, it really hit home how badly they treated the Queen and Prince Philip, how Harry sleeps at night I will never know, and this is just one small aspect of their “annoying” behaviour, I could go on……and on……

jeffgoldblum · 21/11/2025 14:38

BigWillyLittleTodger · 21/11/2025 14:34

him and Meghan are the lesser of the evils, beyond being annoying sometimes

I really don’t like this minimisation and brushing under the carpet of their awful behaviour. I watched a program called The Queen’s terrible year, and it was highlighting the damage the racism claims caused on the world stage, the Queen’s life’s work was the Commonwealth, I’m sure the Queen found it more than a bit annoying that her grandson tried to destroy her legacy, at least she didn’t have to endure the Netflix degradation of her work, Empire 2.0 remember? Plus Prince Philip was literally on his deathbed while the interview was broadcast, it really hit home how badly they treated the Queen and Prince Philip, how Harry sleeps at night I will never know, and this is just one small aspect of their “annoying” behaviour, I could go on……and on……

It’s also brushed aside and not mentioned, that they edited her historical and famous speech from her coronation to remove certain parts and make it more inline with the colonial narrative!
and that is particularly insidious because younger generations and those from other countries will not have realised this ! 😡

BigWillyLittleTodger · 21/11/2025 14:59

jeffgoldblum · 21/11/2025 14:38

It’s also brushed aside and not mentioned, that they edited her historical and famous speech from her coronation to remove certain parts and make it more inline with the colonial narrative!
and that is particularly insidious because younger generations and those from other countries will not have realised this ! 😡

It was a blessing in a way that she died before it was aired, can you imagine how she would have felt, that her actual grandson did that to her?

Indianrollerbird · 21/11/2025 15:01

BigWillyLittleTodger · 21/11/2025 14:59

It was a blessing in a way that she died before it was aired, can you imagine how she would have felt, that her actual grandson did that to her?

It should never be forgotten that he did that to her with the expectation that she would see it and be hurt by it. The evil little goblin.

jeffgoldblum · 21/11/2025 15:02

BigWillyLittleTodger · 21/11/2025 14:59

It was a blessing in a way that she died before it was aired, can you imagine how she would have felt, that her actual grandson did that to her?

No I can’t imagine @BigWillyLittleTodger! , I imagine she would have been crushed and felt completely betrayed.

jeffgoldblum · 21/11/2025 15:03

Indianrollerbird · 21/11/2025 15:01

It should never be forgotten that he did that to her with the expectation that she would see it and be hurt by it. The evil little goblin.

Good point @Indianrollerbird!

BigWillyLittleTodger · 21/11/2025 15:06

Indianrollerbird · 21/11/2025 15:01

It should never be forgotten that he did that to her with the expectation that she would see it and be hurt by it. The evil little goblin.

I hope it haunts him, I doubt it does, but hopefully one day those long sleepless nights will kick in.

Spectre8 · 21/11/2025 15:41

Indianrollerbird · 21/11/2025 14:08

"Why do you need to point out other people's behaviour? What do yo get out of it? Other than be like haha look at that person they are a liar...a feel good moment?"

Spreading false information or misinformation is pretty serious don't you think? Or do you think its okay to do that?

Spectre8 · 21/11/2025 15:44

jeffgoldblum · 21/11/2025 14:10

Flattered but not interested sorry.

Your go to response everytime someone calls you out on your hypocrisy 🤣 because you can't defend it

jeffgoldblum · 21/11/2025 15:47

Spectre8 · 21/11/2025 15:44

Your go to response everytime someone calls you out on your hypocrisy 🤣 because you can't defend it

Really flattered but really not interested. Sorry

Indianrollerbird · 21/11/2025 15:51

Spectre8 · 21/11/2025 15:41

Spreading false information or misinformation is pretty serious don't you think? Or do you think its okay to do that?

Don't you recognise your own words?

BigWillyLittleTodger · 21/11/2025 15:53

Spectre8 · 21/11/2025 15:41

Spreading false information or misinformation is pretty serious don't you think? Or do you think its okay to do that?

Why are you quoting yourself?

Indianrollerbird · 21/11/2025 15:54

Spectre8 · 21/11/2025 15:44

Your go to response everytime someone calls you out on your hypocrisy 🤣 because you can't defend it

No, she only gives that response to you.

jeffgoldblum · 21/11/2025 15:58

Indianrollerbird · 21/11/2025 15:54

No, she only gives that response to you.

Indeed ! 👍

Spectre8 · 21/11/2025 16:28

BigWillyLittleTodger · 21/11/2025 15:53

Why are you quoting yourself?

What false information have I spread? I dont go round repeating rumours or gossip about meghan. So go ahead look forward to you showing me...

Spectre8 · 21/11/2025 16:28

Indianrollerbird · 21/11/2025 15:54

No, she only gives that response to you.

Wow you know what other posters post and to whom, keeping tabs ....lol wow

ozarina · 21/11/2025 16:29

Spectre8 · 21/11/2025 16:28

Wow you know what other posters post and to whom, keeping tabs ....lol wow

No it's just called being aware 🙄 and remembering things.

paradisecircus · 21/11/2025 16:31

She's a woman and an easier target. Men are excused things for which women are vilified.

ozarina · 21/11/2025 16:33

Spectre8 · 21/11/2025 15:41

Spreading false information or misinformation is pretty serious don't you think? Or do you think its okay to do that?

Like Meghan did in the Oprah interview, in court etc ?

Fairgamer · 21/11/2025 16:38

BigWillyLittleTodger · 21/11/2025 14:34

him and Meghan are the lesser of the evils, beyond being annoying sometimes

I really don’t like this minimisation and brushing under the carpet of their awful behaviour. I watched a program called The Queen’s terrible year, and it was highlighting the damage the racism claims caused on the world stage, the Queen’s life’s work was the Commonwealth, I’m sure the Queen found it more than a bit annoying that her grandson tried to destroy her legacy, at least she didn’t have to endure the Netflix degradation of her work, Empire 2.0 remember? Plus Prince Philip was literally on his deathbed while the interview was broadcast, it really hit home how badly they treated the Queen and Prince Philip, how Harry sleeps at night I will never know, and this is just one small aspect of their “annoying” behaviour, I could go on……and on……

What they did that is worse than money laundering, racism and denying it, pedophilia, covering crimes, hanging out with a lot of pedophiles, covering their taxes, etc?

At best they are annoying celebrities that broke free from a cult. That's how I see them. I understand how some people dislike them, they appeared in Kris Jenner party last week. But how is that on the same level of Andrew and Fergie, Charles dirty money and covering pedophiles like his brother and friend Saville and other known problematic people around that family, they way Diana was treated by the institution, the racism towards a kid from their own family, the lack of transparency regarding money while in a public institution etc etc ?

Indianrollerbird · 21/11/2025 16:40

ozarina · 21/11/2025 16:29

No it's just called being aware 🙄 and remembering things.

Quite. Whereas some don't even remember their own words.

Indianrollerbird · 21/11/2025 16:50

Fairgamer · 21/11/2025 16:38

What they did that is worse than money laundering, racism and denying it, pedophilia, covering crimes, hanging out with a lot of pedophiles, covering their taxes, etc?

At best they are annoying celebrities that broke free from a cult. That's how I see them. I understand how some people dislike them, they appeared in Kris Jenner party last week. But how is that on the same level of Andrew and Fergie, Charles dirty money and covering pedophiles like his brother and friend Saville and other known problematic people around that family, they way Diana was treated by the institution, the racism towards a kid from their own family, the lack of transparency regarding money while in a public institution etc etc ?

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What they did that is worse than money laundering, racism and denying it, pedophilia, covering crimes, hanging out with a lot of pedophiles, covering their taxes, etc?

Where did @BigWillyLittleTodger say that? Just because some behaviour is not the worst possible behaviour you can think of, it doesn't stop it being bad behaviour.

In some ways, the lies and digs told by H&M and their people - including the doctoring of footage along the lines of what the BBC has rightly been upbraided for - is more pernicious than outright awful behaviour from AMW that nobody condones, and which can be judged in a court of law once the relevant UK authorities pull their fingers out of their arses. As an ethnic minority living in the UK, I find the narrative that they have spun about this country, at a time when things were bad enough thanks to Brexit, and the consequences for race relations, far reaching and hugely damaging. But there is no court that will convict them for their many lies.

jeffgoldblum · 21/11/2025 17:04

Indianrollerbird · 21/11/2025 16:50

What they did that is worse than money laundering, racism and denying it, pedophilia, covering crimes, hanging out with a lot of pedophiles, covering their taxes, etc?

Where did @BigWillyLittleTodger say that? Just because some behaviour is not the worst possible behaviour you can think of, it doesn't stop it being bad behaviour.

In some ways, the lies and digs told by H&M and their people - including the doctoring of footage along the lines of what the BBC has rightly been upbraided for - is more pernicious than outright awful behaviour from AMW that nobody condones, and which can be judged in a court of law once the relevant UK authorities pull their fingers out of their arses. As an ethnic minority living in the UK, I find the narrative that they have spun about this country, at a time when things were bad enough thanks to Brexit, and the consequences for race relations, far reaching and hugely damaging. But there is no court that will convict them for their many lies.

Bravo 👏