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Why is there more online vitriol towards Megan Markle than Andrew?

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ladykale · 22/10/2025 10:21

I find it ridiculous how there is consistent hate towards Megan markle when she does pretty low key things like launching jam that no one is being forced to buy. People were delighted that she is no longer using HRH titles and even said she shouldn’t call herself the Duchess of Sussex (even though that is distinct from royal titles).

On the flip side - NO ONE has called for an actual investigation into Prince Andrew on the days that he claimed to be at Pizza Express in Woking, when his movements are logged by the royal gamily and his security detail so they eill
know exactly where he was!

He slept with an underage victim of sex trafficking who
conveniently died by suicide shortly before her memoir naming and shaming many individuals came out.

Limited criticism of the late Queen who used £12million
pg her personal money to pay off an underage sec trafficking victim & shielded him from any investigation.

Disgusted by it all and was amused to see the vitriol on an article about Megan breathing, whereas limited calls for Andrew to be investigated by any U.S or UK authorities!

WHY?

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AtIusvue · 05/11/2025 22:48

ozarina · 05/11/2025 22:46

It's not really acting - she's playing herself in it .

Even cameos require acting ….

Indianrollerbird · 05/11/2025 23:30

ozarina · 05/11/2025 22:46

It's not really acting - she's playing herself in it .

She’s constantly playing someone!

I wonder if “playing herself” means Meghan Markle, would be humanitarian , Meghan Sussex, trad wife/jam botherer, or the Duchess of Sussex, royal dignitary? If the latter, once again monetising her royal title. And reminiscent of Sarah Ferguson’s turn in Friends.

Fairgamer · 20/11/2025 10:49

ladykale · 22/10/2025 10:21

I find it ridiculous how there is consistent hate towards Megan markle when she does pretty low key things like launching jam that no one is being forced to buy. People were delighted that she is no longer using HRH titles and even said she shouldn’t call herself the Duchess of Sussex (even though that is distinct from royal titles).

On the flip side - NO ONE has called for an actual investigation into Prince Andrew on the days that he claimed to be at Pizza Express in Woking, when his movements are logged by the royal gamily and his security detail so they eill
know exactly where he was!

He slept with an underage victim of sex trafficking who
conveniently died by suicide shortly before her memoir naming and shaming many individuals came out.

Limited criticism of the late Queen who used £12million
pg her personal money to pay off an underage sec trafficking victim & shielded him from any investigation.

Disgusted by it all and was amused to see the vitriol on an article about Megan breathing, whereas limited calls for Andrew to be investigated by any U.S or UK authorities!

WHY?

Very well said. In my opinion the media and a lot of boots and trolls. They use Meghan as distraction as Charles, William and Kate are beyond that due, to 'the contract'.

I have my issues with Meghan but in no way she deserves more criticism than Andrew and the proper royal family who were really cozy with him and yes this includes Charles, William, Kate, Camilla.

It all seem manufactured than real hate imo. A lot of people call out that.

Fairgamer · 20/11/2025 10:57

I also don't think Meghan is more loathed than Andrew and some members of the royal family like Camilla. It's just a very vocal niche (many sexist, racist, or are naive buying Murdoch and alikes narrative or angry that she called out the royal family shenanigans). Also she sells more that's why a lot of articles of her, but most people in Streets don't hate her and see beyond the smear. Majority of normal people don't care because most of the time she is really basic, boring or inconsequential. That's my take that I observed. But the question is very valid.

MarvellousMonsters · 20/11/2025 11:01

Because she’s a woman. Women are held to higher standards, everything they do and say is scrutinised.

But, Boys will be Boys, so Andrew has a get out of jail card

Fairgamer · 20/11/2025 11:27

Tiredofbullsit · 23/10/2025 18:28

Don’t be daft! Their leaving had precisely NOTHING to do with Andrew! That’s bonkers!

Not true. Harry commented in his book that he wondered why they were covering someone like Andrew in expenses, socially, etc and roasting him and Meghan, exposing them both to danger. So it influenced for him to leave as he realised his family was morally bankrupted as they were covering a pedophile instead of protecting people who did nothing wrong.

Fairgamer · 20/11/2025 11:49

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bluegreygreen · 20/11/2025 15:57

Fairgamer · 20/11/2025 11:27

Not true. Harry commented in his book that he wondered why they were covering someone like Andrew in expenses, socially, etc and roasting him and Meghan, exposing them both to danger. So it influenced for him to leave as he realised his family was morally bankrupted as they were covering a pedophile instead of protecting people who did nothing wrong.

Can you give the reference, please?

I haven't read the book, but my understanding from regular posters who have is that it was remarkably silent on the subject of Andrew, which was felt to be surprising given the petty grievances that were brought up against other members of the family.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 20/11/2025 16:01

Fairgamer · 20/11/2025 11:27

Not true. Harry commented in his book that he wondered why they were covering someone like Andrew in expenses, socially, etc and roasting him and Meghan, exposing them both to danger. So it influenced for him to leave as he realised his family was morally bankrupted as they were covering a pedophile instead of protecting people who did nothing wrong.

First I’ve heard of this, please link.

jeffgoldblum · 20/11/2025 16:20

BigWillyLittleTodger · 20/11/2025 16:01

First I’ve heard of this, please link.

Indeed I would like to see proof of this , because it’s the first time I’ve heard of it and goes against everything previously said.

bluegreygreen · 20/11/2025 17:01

I've found some reports from the time of publication, and it's not quite as described by @Fairgamer, unless she has other passages to quote.

He is discussing security (as ever), and referring to Andrew still having security.
From iNews (archive link below - I have also linked Newsweek) - italics are quotes from Spare:

'When Meghan asked if the security would ever be removed, he writes that he “never” imagined they would “after what happened to my mother”, adding: “Also, not in the wake of my Uncle Andrew. Despite being embroiled in a shameful scandal, accused of sexually assaulting a young girl, no one had even suggested removing his security.”'

https://archive.is/l5xA4

https://archive.is/zGA1Q

So, not related to their decision to leave, but rather to their complaint about security being downgraded for not being working royals.

Fairgamer · 20/11/2025 18:29

jeffgoldblum · 20/11/2025 16:20

Indeed I would like to see proof of this , because it’s the first time I’ve heard of it and goes against everything previously said.

https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-life/royals/prince-harry-becomes-first-royal-to-criticise-prince-andrew-over-jeffrey-epstein-scandal/news-story/2643ba5efb2ff15879e3fcde0c6e56ad

https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2023/01/prince-harry-spare-memoir-never-though-lose-palace-security-prince-andrew-kept-his-sexual-assault-scandal?srsltid=AfmBOooIQnVG-mKfsByKRZfdvOXTc9FvGIEhouTpBubgzjdxdCawSqCN

royal-insider.com/2025/07/14/prince-harry-jeffrey-epstein-andrew-scandal/

An example. Not patient enough to search the book page as I'm not that invested, but he talked about Andrew, that they never considered pulling out his security but was threatening to do it with him and Meghan after he stepped down as senior. Also he talked against Andrew publicly. The dynamic was one of the factors that prompted him leaving, as they were protecting a sexual offender instead of him who did nothing. It was not the main reason indeed.

Prince Harry “Never” Thought He’d Lose Palace Security After Prince Andrew Kept It

The Duke of Sussex reportedly points out in his new memoir, Spare, the double standard that his family lost their protection while his uncle kept his in the midst of scandal.

https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2023/01/prince-harry-spare-memoir-never-though-lose-palace-security-prince-andrew-kept-his-sexual-assault-scandal?srsltid=AfmBOooIQnVG-mKfsByKRZfdvOXTc9FvGIEhouTpBubgzjdxdCawSqCN

jeffgoldblum · 20/11/2025 18:36

Fairgamer · 20/11/2025 18:29

https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-life/royals/prince-harry-becomes-first-royal-to-criticise-prince-andrew-over-jeffrey-epstein-scandal/news-story/2643ba5efb2ff15879e3fcde0c6e56ad

https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2023/01/prince-harry-spare-memoir-never-though-lose-palace-security-prince-andrew-kept-his-sexual-assault-scandal?srsltid=AfmBOooIQnVG-mKfsByKRZfdvOXTc9FvGIEhouTpBubgzjdxdCawSqCN

royal-insider.com/2025/07/14/prince-harry-jeffrey-epstein-andrew-scandal/

An example. Not patient enough to search the book page as I'm not that invested, but he talked about Andrew, that they never considered pulling out his security but was threatening to do it with him and Meghan after he stepped down as senior. Also he talked against Andrew publicly. The dynamic was one of the factors that prompted him leaving, as they were protecting a sexual offender instead of him who did nothing. It was not the main reason indeed.

Too late! @bluegreygreenhas already shown that your comment wasn’t based on facts and only your own suppositions.
harry clearly and publicly announced why he left and it had nothing to do with Andrew.

Fairgamer · 20/11/2025 18:38

jeffgoldblum · 20/11/2025 18:36

Too late! @bluegreygreenhas already shown that your comment wasn’t based on facts and only your own suppositions.
harry clearly and publicly announced why he left and it had nothing to do with Andrew.

Too late because someone posted earlier 🤣 mature argument.

jeffgoldblum · 20/11/2025 18:55

Fairgamer · 20/11/2025 18:38

Too late because someone posted earlier 🤣 mature argument.

Not very mature to proffer false information as fact either! 🤷‍♀️

MrsLeonFarrell · 20/11/2025 19:05

When did they pull Andrew's security? They did at some point because he has to pay himself, then later Charles did until he stopped paying as well. As far as i am aware Andrew only got security in the latter years because he was within the cordon.

bluegreygreen · 20/11/2025 19:16

Not sure - I had assumed when he stopped being a working royal he stopped having security for events (as that is what the Princess Royal and the Edinburghs have). I understood his home security was part of Windsor - but wasn't KC3 paying that which was one reason he wanted Andrew to move?

MrsLeonFarrell · 21/11/2025 06:30

bluegreygreen · 20/11/2025 19:16

Not sure - I had assumed when he stopped being a working royal he stopped having security for events (as that is what the Princess Royal and the Edinburghs have). I understood his home security was part of Windsor - but wasn't KC3 paying that which was one reason he wanted Andrew to move?

I think Charles stopped for a few years, part of the move currently under way involved Charles reinstating an allowance and of course he'll have security in the estate.

ZenNudist · 21/11/2025 06:40

There's enough hate for the RF to go around.

I'm not sure fan of getting rid of a constitutional monarchy but think we need to slim back the RF.

Everyone is baying for Andre's blood. I don't think anyone gives a shit about Megan any more. Pretty sure any engagement is fuelled by her own PR team.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 21/11/2025 13:10

So, not related to their decision to leave, but rather to their complaint about security being downgraded for not being working royals.

So nothing to do with Andrew at all then, thought as much, and can I remind @Fairgamer considering you are apparently not that invested that Harry never wanted to leave, he wanted to stay a working royal whilst pursuing commercial ventures in the US once that was denied they left, so to try and push a false narrative that they left because of Andrew being a sexual predator is completely untrue.

Fairgamer · 21/11/2025 13:34

jeffgoldblum · 20/11/2025 18:55

Not very mature to proffer false information as fact either! 🤷‍♀️

It wasn't false the proof it there. Have a good day.

@BigWillyLittleTodger I understand what you mean. I don't think Harry is beyond criticism, particularly I think everyone in that family is shady including Harry, but him and Meghan are the lesser of the evils, beyond being annoying sometimes. What I was pointing is that he talked about Andrew and that Andrew getting security and protection influenced the rift with his family, he wasn't alright with it. It was, for sure not the primary reason for him to leaving indeed, but it was one of the many factors that influenced him not wanting back by seeing how his family operated and their priorities. Now, it's fair to point the hypocrisy that initially HM wanted half in and half out, but that's actually what happened historically so they defaulted to it. Though, the accusation that Andrew had nothing to do with them leaving and breaking with the family is not exactly correct.

Spectre8 · 21/11/2025 13:36

jeffgoldblum · 20/11/2025 18:55

Not very mature to proffer false information as fact either! 🤷‍♀️

The irony of you saying this when its what you do quite alot...repeating rumours and gossip as though its true 😆

Indianrollerbird · 21/11/2025 14:08

Spectre8 · 21/11/2025 13:36

The irony of you saying this when its what you do quite alot...repeating rumours and gossip as though its true 😆

"Why do you need to point out other people's behaviour? What do yo get out of it? Other than be like haha look at that person they are a liar...a feel good moment?"

jeffgoldblum · 21/11/2025 14:10

Spectre8 · 21/11/2025 13:36

The irony of you saying this when its what you do quite alot...repeating rumours and gossip as though its true 😆

Flattered but not interested sorry.