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Why is there more online vitriol towards Megan Markle than Andrew?

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ladykale · 22/10/2025 10:21

I find it ridiculous how there is consistent hate towards Megan markle when she does pretty low key things like launching jam that no one is being forced to buy. People were delighted that she is no longer using HRH titles and even said she shouldn’t call herself the Duchess of Sussex (even though that is distinct from royal titles).

On the flip side - NO ONE has called for an actual investigation into Prince Andrew on the days that he claimed to be at Pizza Express in Woking, when his movements are logged by the royal gamily and his security detail so they eill
know exactly where he was!

He slept with an underage victim of sex trafficking who
conveniently died by suicide shortly before her memoir naming and shaming many individuals came out.

Limited criticism of the late Queen who used £12million
pg her personal money to pay off an underage sec trafficking victim & shielded him from any investigation.

Disgusted by it all and was amused to see the vitriol on an article about Megan breathing, whereas limited calls for Andrew to be investigated by any U.S or UK authorities!

WHY?

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Fairgamer · 21/11/2025 17:11

Indianrollerbird · 21/11/2025 16:50

What they did that is worse than money laundering, racism and denying it, pedophilia, covering crimes, hanging out with a lot of pedophiles, covering their taxes, etc?

Where did @BigWillyLittleTodger say that? Just because some behaviour is not the worst possible behaviour you can think of, it doesn't stop it being bad behaviour.

In some ways, the lies and digs told by H&M and their people - including the doctoring of footage along the lines of what the BBC has rightly been upbraided for - is more pernicious than outright awful behaviour from AMW that nobody condones, and which can be judged in a court of law once the relevant UK authorities pull their fingers out of their arses. As an ethnic minority living in the UK, I find the narrative that they have spun about this country, at a time when things were bad enough thanks to Brexit, and the consequences for race relations, far reaching and hugely damaging. But there is no court that will convict them for their many lies.

I said they are the lesser of the evils from that family. They are compared to annoying celebrities. See what topic we are answering? Why is there more online vitriol towards Megan Markle than Andrew? Also I don't think H&M are liars, no more than the royal family, who were finding lying over and over again in the recent years. None of what they say or do, have global consequences compared to anything that current royal family does, the royals being known for lying, enabling or being part of racism, shady tax stuff, protecting and hanging with the worst criminal people, some criminal themselves etc, all that while being head of estate. I think it's all worse than any celebrity shenanigans or cringey interview, that can be easily ignored.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 21/11/2025 17:20

Spectre8 · 21/11/2025 16:28

What false information have I spread? I dont go round repeating rumours or gossip about meghan. So go ahead look forward to you showing me...

I don’t know why you are quoting me, where did I say you have posted false information?

Indianrollerbird · 21/11/2025 17:36

Fairgamer · 21/11/2025 17:11

I said they are the lesser of the evils from that family. They are compared to annoying celebrities. See what topic we are answering? Why is there more online vitriol towards Megan Markle than Andrew? Also I don't think H&M are liars, no more than the royal family, who were finding lying over and over again in the recent years. None of what they say or do, have global consequences compared to anything that current royal family does, the royals being known for lying, enabling or being part of racism, shady tax stuff, protecting and hanging with the worst criminal people, some criminal themselves etc, all that while being head of estate. I think it's all worse than any celebrity shenanigans or cringey interview, that can be easily ignored.

You clearly have zero idea of what H&M get up to. It's not just cringy celebrity stuff, and you sound very naive. They parade themselves around as royals and involve themselves in quasi royal activities and tours whilst monetising their titles. They are involved in politics and count some pretty high level players as their allies, like Gavin Newsom. They are involved in the future of online free speech through their work with bodies like the Aspen Institute. Research funded by Archewell has been used by political think tanks. They have undermined the UK state and the Commonwealth, and been called out for feeding into the instability in strategic and politically volatile areas that China and Russia are waiting to pounce on. One of the worst bunches of online trolls and doxxers operates under their name and with their unspoken consent, whilst they lecture about online bullying (as part of their attack on freedom of speech).

But if it's just "celebrity shenanigans" to you: well ask yourself why they are friends with the Kardashians and why Harry has been on holiday with Kris Jenner's toy boy - all of whom are close, close friends with the disgusting P Diddy. How about Meghan's close friendship with Markus Anderson and her close alignment with Soho House. Markus's immediate superior and owner of Soho House is Ron Burkle, as frequent flier with Jeffrey Epstein. Even their friend, Oprah remains silent on the crimes of her old pal, Harvey Weinstein.

BTW, the only proven royal racist alive is Harry. Netflix and Idris Elba are making a film about King Charles and the King's Trust, and how it has helped thousands of young people, including Elba. Such a racist.

Spectre8 · 21/11/2025 17:39

Indianrollerbird · 21/11/2025 16:40

Quite. Whereas some don't even remember their own words.

Oooo arent you so amazing for remembering random people's comments on a sm platform. Here have a good star

BigWillyLittleTodger · 21/11/2025 17:40

Just a few shady things we know about Harry and Meghan and they’ve only been going 5 or so years, let’s see where we are if they hit 30 years and this is just stuff that we are aware of, such annoyances!

Bullying claims from both sides of the Atlantic
Tyler Perry, godfather to one of their kids, a rumoured sexual predator for years, just recently sued.
Accepting their Californian House from a highly controversial billionaire stranger.
African Parks, associated with a charity that has been accused of heinous crimes
Accepting hospitality from Nigeria and Columbia whose regimes are dubious at best
Accepting hospitality from corrupt individuals, wanted for money laundering and fraud
Going against Palace advice and wearing diamond earrings gifted to her from the Crown Prince of Saudi exactly three weeks after the murder and dismembering by Saudi agents of the dissident journalist Jamal Khashoggi three days after Saudi Arabia had publicly admitted that its own officials were responsible for the killing.
Wearing and promoting Balenciaga despite their ad campaign with paedophilic suggestions.

Indianrollerbird · 21/11/2025 17:41

Spectre8 · 21/11/2025 17:39

Oooo arent you so amazing for remembering random people's comments on a sm platform. Here have a good star

You can bluster away all you like. Your words, your hypocrisy.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 21/11/2025 17:44

enabling or being part of racism Yes Harry’s racism was pretty bad, considering his generation should be far more aware than previous generations the fact he called his colleagues racist names as banter was shameful.

Spectre8 · 21/11/2025 17:46

As was Phillips and Princess Margaret...lets not forgot those two...seems to always be forgotten about.. oh and didnt the queens side also resting for her racist remarks

BigWillyLittleTodger · 21/11/2025 17:49

Spectre8 · 21/11/2025 17:46

As was Phillips and Princess Margaret...lets not forgot those two...seems to always be forgotten about.. oh and didnt the queens side also resting for her racist remarks

Do you have trouble with comprehension? As I said clearly in my post FOR HIS GENERATION.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 21/11/2025 17:51

Spectre8 · 21/11/2025 17:46

As was Phillips and Princess Margaret...lets not forgot those two...seems to always be forgotten about.. oh and didnt the queens side also resting for her racist remarks

So it’s ok for Harry to be a racist because his grandfather said racist remarks, is that what you are saying? Your whataboutery is tedious.

jeffgoldblum · 21/11/2025 17:52

BigWillyLittleTodger · 21/11/2025 17:49

Do you have trouble with comprehension? As I said clearly in my post FOR HIS GENERATION.

I’m giving you points for understanding that!

ozarina · 21/11/2025 19:40

Spectre8 · 21/11/2025 17:46

As was Phillips and Princess Margaret...lets not forgot those two...seems to always be forgotten about.. oh and didnt the queens side also resting for her racist remarks

Sorry? 😂

BemusedAmerican · 21/11/2025 19:42

Also Sentebale.
The alleged car chase in NYC and the letter about it to that RAVIC review board.
Disaster tourism.
The Pat Tillman Awards.
The Heroes of Aviation Award.

Fairgamer · 21/11/2025 19:43

Indianrollerbird · 21/11/2025 17:36

You clearly have zero idea of what H&M get up to. It's not just cringy celebrity stuff, and you sound very naive. They parade themselves around as royals and involve themselves in quasi royal activities and tours whilst monetising their titles. They are involved in politics and count some pretty high level players as their allies, like Gavin Newsom. They are involved in the future of online free speech through their work with bodies like the Aspen Institute. Research funded by Archewell has been used by political think tanks. They have undermined the UK state and the Commonwealth, and been called out for feeding into the instability in strategic and politically volatile areas that China and Russia are waiting to pounce on. One of the worst bunches of online trolls and doxxers operates under their name and with their unspoken consent, whilst they lecture about online bullying (as part of their attack on freedom of speech).

But if it's just "celebrity shenanigans" to you: well ask yourself why they are friends with the Kardashians and why Harry has been on holiday with Kris Jenner's toy boy - all of whom are close, close friends with the disgusting P Diddy. How about Meghan's close friendship with Markus Anderson and her close alignment with Soho House. Markus's immediate superior and owner of Soho House is Ron Burkle, as frequent flier with Jeffrey Epstein. Even their friend, Oprah remains silent on the crimes of her old pal, Harvey Weinstein.

BTW, the only proven royal racist alive is Harry. Netflix and Idris Elba are making a film about King Charles and the King's Trust, and how it has helped thousands of young people, including Elba. Such a racist.

But I don't remember Meghan being responsible or keeping track of whose adults like the Soho owner or Oprah knows, the fact is that Meghan doesn't properly hangs with people like Saville or Epstein or protects pedophiles. If Oprah and Markus are guilty or enablers they should go to justice, but it has nothing to do with Meghan. Also it's weird that many of vitriol goes to Meghan and not Harry, weird sexism right?

20000000l · 21/11/2025 19:44

It’s probably cause her face doesn’t fit but his does. She is “othered” which is like an extra layer to any controversy.

Spectre8 · 21/11/2025 19:48

BigWillyLittleTodger · 21/11/2025 17:49

Do you have trouble with comprehension? As I said clearly in my post FOR HIS GENERATION.

I wasn't responding directly to you, chill out. Its more Indianhighrollers comments about race relations odd considering more than one member of the rf has been racist at times when race relations havent been good.

End of the day racism exists in our country and at an institutional level (met police for example) we also have quite a few rf members being racist ...its not just on one person who has damaged our image. You have far right, facism and so on too. In our generation our political parties have caused as much if not more damage too.

Fairgamer · 21/11/2025 19:50

BigWillyLittleTodger · 21/11/2025 17:40

Just a few shady things we know about Harry and Meghan and they’ve only been going 5 or so years, let’s see where we are if they hit 30 years and this is just stuff that we are aware of, such annoyances!

Bullying claims from both sides of the Atlantic
Tyler Perry, godfather to one of their kids, a rumoured sexual predator for years, just recently sued.
Accepting their Californian House from a highly controversial billionaire stranger.
African Parks, associated with a charity that has been accused of heinous crimes
Accepting hospitality from Nigeria and Columbia whose regimes are dubious at best
Accepting hospitality from corrupt individuals, wanted for money laundering and fraud
Going against Palace advice and wearing diamond earrings gifted to her from the Crown Prince of Saudi exactly three weeks after the murder and dismembering by Saudi agents of the dissident journalist Jamal Khashoggi three days after Saudi Arabia had publicly admitted that its own officials were responsible for the killing.
Wearing and promoting Balenciaga despite their ad campaign with paedophilic suggestions.

So you bought into the smear and hate campaign. If you believe in that we can always bring every bizarre thing about Catherine as William to the table:

Catherine is the racist royal
Catherine being constantly cheated by William
Catherine being a yacht girl and groomed by her mother
Catherine was a stalker and grommed by her mother to woo William or snap any rich men
William likes to be pegged
William is gay and in a Lavander marriage
William has a temper that results on unfortanate things that I won't mention
Catherine lied that she had cancer when she didn't
Catherine is a bully and mean girl
Catherine nickname was mastress and was passed around by William friends prior marriage
Catherine benefited from dirty money from uncle Gary

Etc.. etc...

You see? Same logic. You can't prove any of what you say other than rumours, and some things were disproven like the bullying claims. So if you want to believe those conspiracies and smear about Meghan with no proof other than hate... Than those things of Catherine are also true. And we know that both rumours about both women aren't correct. Instead of wasting time in real facts you hate a woman due to the most bizarre conspiracies, that simply by using basic logic, would dismantle the whole list rumours.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 21/11/2025 19:59

Spectre8 · 21/11/2025 19:48

I wasn't responding directly to you, chill out. Its more Indianhighrollers comments about race relations odd considering more than one member of the rf has been racist at times when race relations havent been good.

End of the day racism exists in our country and at an institutional level (met police for example) we also have quite a few rf members being racist ...its not just on one person who has damaged our image. You have far right, facism and so on too. In our generation our political parties have caused as much if not more damage too.

Talk about desperation trying to excuse Harry, nothing to see here. The fact is Harry is of modern times and sensitivities, he is the only one of his generation to to be racist, you can’t get around that uncomfortable truth no matter how you desperately try to spin it.

isthesolution · 21/11/2025 20:00

Media. Media. Media.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 21/11/2025 20:05

Fairgamer · 21/11/2025 19:50

So you bought into the smear and hate campaign. If you believe in that we can always bring every bizarre thing about Catherine as William to the table:

Catherine is the racist royal
Catherine being constantly cheated by William
Catherine being a yacht girl and groomed by her mother
Catherine was a stalker and grommed by her mother to woo William or snap any rich men
William likes to be pegged
William is gay and in a Lavander marriage
William has a temper that results on unfortanate things that I won't mention
Catherine lied that she had cancer when she didn't
Catherine is a bully and mean girl
Catherine nickname was mastress and was passed around by William friends prior marriage
Catherine benefited from dirty money from uncle Gary

Etc.. etc...

You see? Same logic. You can't prove any of what you say other than rumours, and some things were disproven like the bullying claims. So if you want to believe those conspiracies and smear about Meghan with no proof other than hate... Than those things of Catherine are also true. And we know that both rumours about both women aren't correct. Instead of wasting time in real facts you hate a woman due to the most bizarre conspiracies, that simply by using basic logic, would dismantle the whole list rumours.

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Well no because what I have posted is true, your slurs on the other hand are twitter poison and possibly figures of your overactive imagination that you have cooked up yourself, not sure where you hang out on the internet but I can take a wild guess…….

Indianrollerbird · 21/11/2025 20:10

Spectre8 · 21/11/2025 19:48

I wasn't responding directly to you, chill out. Its more Indianhighrollers comments about race relations odd considering more than one member of the rf has been racist at times when race relations havent been good.

End of the day racism exists in our country and at an institutional level (met police for example) we also have quite a few rf members being racist ...its not just on one person who has damaged our image. You have far right, facism and so on too. In our generation our political parties have caused as much if not more damage too.

Who TF is IndianHighRollers? Never go into ornithology.

Which part of the only proven royal racist alive is Harry don't you understand?

Not interested in your whataboutery and minimisation. Meghan and Harry cynically seized on the precarious position of race relations post Brexit and at the height of the BLM movement, and made it worse for people like me with lies and exaggerations.

bottledboot · 21/11/2025 20:12

Harry committed the ultimate sin, he rejected the public & it’s Meghan’s fault. Some care deeply about that, take it personally & can’t forgive that.
I think it’s weird but find the concept of the Royal family & deferring to them even weirder.

jeffgoldblum · 21/11/2025 20:15

Fairgamer · 21/11/2025 19:43

But I don't remember Meghan being responsible or keeping track of whose adults like the Soho owner or Oprah knows, the fact is that Meghan doesn't properly hangs with people like Saville or Epstein or protects pedophiles. If Oprah and Markus are guilty or enablers they should go to justice, but it has nothing to do with Meghan. Also it's weird that many of vitriol goes to Meghan and not Harry, weird sexism right?

Meghan however did hangout with Epsteins girlfriend and was happy to be photographed with her on multiple occasions ( including his yacht) .

Indianrollerbird · 21/11/2025 20:22

Fairgamer · 21/11/2025 19:43

But I don't remember Meghan being responsible or keeping track of whose adults like the Soho owner or Oprah knows, the fact is that Meghan doesn't properly hangs with people like Saville or Epstein or protects pedophiles. If Oprah and Markus are guilty or enablers they should go to justice, but it has nothing to do with Meghan. Also it's weird that many of vitriol goes to Meghan and not Harry, weird sexism right?

It's not exactly a secret who these people associate with. So why does she continue to associate with them? Do you associate with people who are openly friends with rapists and paedophiles?

The topic at hand is Meghan, is it not? Harry's a racist, drug addled, whining, useless piece of shit. There's a plethora of threads about him too.

Spectre8 · 21/11/2025 21:22

BigWillyLittleTodger · 21/11/2025 19:59

Talk about desperation trying to excuse Harry, nothing to see here. The fact is Harry is of modern times and sensitivities, he is the only one of his generation to to be racist, you can’t get around that uncomfortable truth no matter how you desperately try to spin it.

Im not spinning anything you want to restrict it to our generation...fine. I like looking at the big picture instead of a narrow focus 💁‍♀️