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Why is there more online vitriol towards Megan Markle than Andrew?

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ladykale · 22/10/2025 10:21

I find it ridiculous how there is consistent hate towards Megan markle when she does pretty low key things like launching jam that no one is being forced to buy. People were delighted that she is no longer using HRH titles and even said she shouldn’t call herself the Duchess of Sussex (even though that is distinct from royal titles).

On the flip side - NO ONE has called for an actual investigation into Prince Andrew on the days that he claimed to be at Pizza Express in Woking, when his movements are logged by the royal gamily and his security detail so they eill
know exactly where he was!

He slept with an underage victim of sex trafficking who
conveniently died by suicide shortly before her memoir naming and shaming many individuals came out.

Limited criticism of the late Queen who used £12million
pg her personal money to pay off an underage sec trafficking victim & shielded him from any investigation.

Disgusted by it all and was amused to see the vitriol on an article about Megan breathing, whereas limited calls for Andrew to be investigated by any U.S or UK authorities!

WHY?

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jumpingthehighjump · 24/10/2025 14:57

ChatHeeBeeGez6298 · 24/10/2025 13:52

The sheer proportion of invective directed at her amounts to hate imho,

Totally agree.
It's endless

ConverseAddict · 24/10/2025 15:17

chunkyBoo · 24/10/2025 12:19

Just to jump in here, it answering chats question, but I understand that W&K lived in Notts Cottage together, I suspect they kind of progress in their houses as they get closer to being the monarch. I saw a programme about princess Anne and her house Gatscombe Park I think, where she got this as a wedding gift from her mother which needed much renovation and was a working estate, so it could pay for itself. Zara got the estate next door at some point I think, and Peter lived on the Gatscombe estate in a cottage.
I think Harry is more akin to Zara/Peter in the house stakes for the royal children / grand children to HMQE2 so don’t understand why he’s / Meghan were so snotty about the houses and apartments offered to them - Charles and Di had space in KP, and their kids were brought up there so not sure again why KP wasn’t good enough either 🤷‍♀️

Because M is American and they see value in houses in the size. Someone British would understand something can be small but worth much more. Notts Cottage is prime real estate by area and the security it gives.
Even people who live in great big stately homes often just live in an apartment in them.
But yes an apartment in KP/Nott Cottage would have been fine through British eyes, but probably not to someone from LA.

ozarina · 24/10/2025 15:23

chunkyBoo · 24/10/2025 10:57

well this is why you believe alll of the shit MM puts out in the world - you reed things at face value, no depth or critical thinking about what people say - just read what’s written or hear what’s said and take it at face value - just so you’re aware - of course I’m not thinking about it all day, it’s just a phrase to highlight how shallow a response was to my question about apparently being a racist, and when challenged, being told nothing to prove I had been racist.

secondly when a poster tries to bully someone by calling them a racist without reason then maybe rather than the poster actually being a racist, perhaps the ‘accuser’ is just a bully with no ability to discuss, they just throw the racism word in like a bomb to shut people up … sorry but no, a discussion board is for discussion, not somewhere to call people names if they have a valid point that isn’t liked

Well said!

ozarina · 24/10/2025 15:28

ChatHeeBeeGez6298 · 24/10/2025 07:27

If you think that Oprah Winfrey interviews, and ghost written books produced by major publishers and streamed tv documentaries are all “unmediated” then you have a very naive view of how those things work. They are without exception designed to make money for media organisations which usually involves emphasising the negative.

Maybe emphasising the negative BUT the negative still happened !

Do we believe the seals sang for Harry and Meghan ? Ummmm no 😂😂😂

ozarina · 24/10/2025 15:31

Meghan loves a microphone - yet again there she is sticking her beak in telling her friend to lift up her microphone. She seems to have no sense of social etiquette as has been proven time and time over.

Why is there more online vitriol towards Megan Markle than Andrew?
marcopront · 24/10/2025 15:33

ConverseAddict · 24/10/2025 15:17

Because M is American and they see value in houses in the size. Someone British would understand something can be small but worth much more. Notts Cottage is prime real estate by area and the security it gives.
Even people who live in great big stately homes often just live in an apartment in them.
But yes an apartment in KP/Nott Cottage would have been fine through British eyes, but probably not to someone from LA.

Then maybe her husband who is British could explain things to her.

ozarina · 24/10/2025 15:46

I've watched this bookshop interview and how awkward. M takes it over talking about herself - her poor friend whose book they are talking about is totally sidelined. M plays the mean girl perfectly. It's horrible to see.

Indianrollerbird · 24/10/2025 16:06

Nott Cott was undoubtedly a step up from her Toronto house share with Corey Vitielo and whatever place she rented in LA in between Suits. There’s a reason why A listers like Catherine Zeta Jones and Michael Douglas want flats in places like St James’s Palace. The history alone would blow the minds of most with an interest in other cultures. Such a shame that International Relations graduate, Meghan, couldn’t open her mind or a history book.

Lilacblu · 24/10/2025 16:32

Have you listened to Dan Wootton "outspoken"?? On YouTube... WILLS serious about situation of Andrew and Fergie being (still) the money grabbing.. guffauing pair of greedy totally irresponsible embarrassing goblins they are... Andrew hasn't got any fans but he isn't saying a word.. nothing.. Whereas Megan and Harrold.. can't shut up.. kept the children away from the grandfather (her father) it's nasty spiteful cruel.. and all the other lies all she does is put people down.. I can't see how anyone can defend them??

jumpingthehighjump · 24/10/2025 17:17

As if anyone thinks Dan Wootton has a valid opinion

MrsLeonFarrell · 24/10/2025 17:17

AtIusvue · 24/10/2025 16:07

Anyone notice Andrew trying to throw Camilla under the bus in that article? Surely even her isn't stupid enough to think he is not popular than her?

On the subject of the thread. It seems a sweeping statement to make here. Vitriol on mumsnet is much less than on other social media sites in general. I wouldn't like to judge who gets the most, but it probably depends on how the media are spinning specific actions at the time. It's also hard to judge levels but certainly I hope that, at least currently, Andrew and his dodgy behaviour and finances gets more vitriol than someone who sells jam spread.

BemusedAmerican · 24/10/2025 17:27

Camilla has a very nice house so why would she want to move? They will probably renovate Royal Lodge and rent it out.

MrsLeonFarrell · 24/10/2025 17:30

BemusedAmerican · 24/10/2025 17:27

Camilla has a very nice house so why would she want to move? They will probably renovate Royal Lodge and rent it out.

I understand it's a tricky rental because of where it is in the security cordon. However I can't see that as impossible.

There is no way Camilla would want to live there.

BemusedAmerican · 24/10/2025 17:37

Or Sophie and Edward could downsize to Royal Lodge after it was renovated and their big house could be renovated and converted to apartments.

CoffeeCantata · 24/10/2025 17:43

ConverseAddict · 24/10/2025 15:17

Because M is American and they see value in houses in the size. Someone British would understand something can be small but worth much more. Notts Cottage is prime real estate by area and the security it gives.
Even people who live in great big stately homes often just live in an apartment in them.
But yes an apartment in KP/Nott Cottage would have been fine through British eyes, but probably not to someone from LA.

And I’m guessing Meghan isn’t very culturally clued-up (happy to be corrected if her fans know better) and the fact that the ‘cottage’ was designed by Christopher Wren (yes, Christopher Wren, Meghan - Google him, dear child) seems not to have impressed her at all.

Not bling or flash enough.

CoffeeCantata · 24/10/2025 17:45

marcopront · 24/10/2025 15:33

Then maybe her husband who is British could explain things to her.

I very much doubt it🤣.

CoffeeCantata · 24/10/2025 17:58

Spectre8 · 23/10/2025 20:55

Yeah but you dont have to continue to stay with your family just because you must. Jesus. You wouldn't want to distance yourself if you had an Andrew in your family?

Well perhaps YOU can answer my question then, which I’ve now asked three separate times (of H&M fans) only to get absolute silence and tumbleweed!

My question is this:

Thinking of all the complaints and whinging which Harry and Meghan put out in their documentary, the OW interview and in Spare, and also thinking of the vicious attacks they launched against the softest target of all, H’s one-time ‘sister’, Catherine, can you explain why the appalling, seedy, corrupt, abusive, likely-criminal, Andrew, got off Scot-free? Not a dickie bird of criticism of him. In fact Harry was very quick off the mark to assert that he had NOT punched his uncle Andrew, despite Lownie telling us he definitely did.

I would be beyond grateful for any light H and M defenders can throw on this puzzling question.

ConverseAddict · 24/10/2025 18:13

marcopront · 24/10/2025 15:33

Then maybe her husband who is British could explain things to her.

And explained about titles, not getting paid, why you can’t take freebies. Maybe too many things to go through.

chunkyBoo · 24/10/2025 18:13

CoffeeCantata · 24/10/2025 17:45

I very much doubt it🤣.

lol - considering he expects everyone else to teach his girlfriend / wife how to do anything royal related, and even the HR department (for staff!) to call a counsellor for her then I very much doubt he could, or, he’d just say ‘what Megain wants Megain gets’ in his pathetic dumbass voice

chunkyBoo · 24/10/2025 18:15

CoffeeCantata · 24/10/2025 17:58

Well perhaps YOU can answer my question then, which I’ve now asked three separate times (of H&M fans) only to get absolute silence and tumbleweed!

My question is this:

Thinking of all the complaints and whinging which Harry and Meghan put out in their documentary, the OW interview and in Spare, and also thinking of the vicious attacks they launched against the softest target of all, H’s one-time ‘sister’, Catherine, can you explain why the appalling, seedy, corrupt, abusive, likely-criminal, Andrew, got off Scot-free? Not a dickie bird of criticism of him. In fact Harry was very quick off the mark to assert that he had NOT punched his uncle Andrew, despite Lownie telling us he definitely did.

I would be beyond grateful for any light H and M defenders can throw on this puzzling question.

I suspect M and PA have ‘met’ before, so they probably have a mutual amount of dirt on each other - just my opinion 😉🛥️

CoffeeCantata · 24/10/2025 18:52

CoffeeCantata · 24/10/2025 17:58

Well perhaps YOU can answer my question then, which I’ve now asked three separate times (of H&M fans) only to get absolute silence and tumbleweed!

My question is this:

Thinking of all the complaints and whinging which Harry and Meghan put out in their documentary, the OW interview and in Spare, and also thinking of the vicious attacks they launched against the softest target of all, H’s one-time ‘sister’, Catherine, can you explain why the appalling, seedy, corrupt, abusive, likely-criminal, Andrew, got off Scot-free? Not a dickie bird of criticism of him. In fact Harry was very quick off the mark to assert that he had NOT punched his uncle Andrew, despite Lownie telling us he definitely did.

I would be beyond grateful for any light H and M defenders can throw on this puzzling question.

Anyone?? It’s a head-scratcher, for sure!

Lilacblu · 24/10/2025 19:49

Yep!!

Tiredofbullsit · 24/10/2025 20:12

Lilacblu · 23/10/2025 18:45

I think it's simply because Megan attacked the Queen.. Prince Philip.. Kate and Wills.. lied about them being racist.. And doesn't really do anything but complain.. massive "cottage" wasn't good enough... told so much absolute crap then changed the story's... Not very likable in so many ways. Andrew isn't either but he keeps it zipped... he's not in any way liked.. only by himself.

I rather think that’s exactly what Andrew DIDN’T do - “keep it zipped”!

Tiredofbullsit · 24/10/2025 20:17

Spectre8 · 24/10/2025 05:58

I didn't say they left because of him, they left because they didnt get half in and out but bet they are mighty glad they did, i know I would be.

They didn’t. You did!

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