Andrew to lose Duke of York title

[Flixon]

News banner from the Torygraph saying Andrew and Sarah are losing their titles. They will be ‘put into Abeyance’ Andrew also to lose the Order of the Garter. Sarah will be known as Sarah Ferguson, he retains ‘Prince’ as he is the son of HM QE2.

bloody good job !

Was this reported anywhere, i.e. did Keir have a word with his Maj, or was there a vote or other action that led to an order to do it or else?

Hints may have been dropped, and statements made in Parliament, but was there any specific order by the Government? I'm not saying there wasn't, I'm just curious.

Manor House?😲

Two up, two down is more than he/they deserve.

What was that book by Sue Townsend where she imagined Queenie and family living on a council estate somewhere in the Midlands?

Apart from the embarrassment this won’t affect him at all. He still retains his title “prince”, his royal mansion, Land Rover, Bentley, horses and the benefits of living on the Windsor royal estate. He needs to lose the lot and face full investigation of his alleged crimes. Far, far, far too little, too late.

Andrew Lownie mentions it in The Times. Other than that, I don't know.

I feel it's likely that the royal family would have had to have been pushed to do as much as they've done (which is precious little tbh since he hasn't been stripped of anything, just agreed to not use the titles!).

The Queen and I

That is a fantastic book!

I think they will turn up somewhere in the ME - the RF has always had strong links there and with some very dodgy regimes. Given what we have seen of them, could imagine them in Dubai or somewhere similar.

he was adequately compensated somehow for the PR optics

I agree entirely.

He's staying put in his ridiculously overblown residence with unanswered questions as to how he affords it and I'd put good money on all talk of an eviction which was never going to happen anyway disappearing.

He's keeping the (rather ironically titled in his case) Vice Admiral birthday upgrade too.

How he must wish he hadn't stepped back from claiming the full Admiral birthday bauble after Newsnight.

Thanks, @CrimsonStoat. I wasn’t particularly taken with it, as I didn’t find it very funny, and took ages to read it, I’m not sure if I ever finished it.

He absolutely wasn’t a war hero. He was sent out on safe inspection flights and was kept well away from any hint of danger.

sponging of anyone she could even folk like Epstein

It's often overlooked that Epstein held more contact numbers for Fug than he did even for Andrew.

I think her tentacles in the saga run deep.

I'd like to see the pair of them in a one bedroomed council flat with no staff, no car and living on just a state pension. They haven't the faintest idea how enormously privileged they've always been because their greed, arrogance and spendthrift lifestyle has blinded them to the duty and service required from the royal family.

Some people have been on social media saying they feel sorry for Andrew because he's got nothing to do except ride horses and play golf. How many pensioners could afford to keep a horse, let alone a stable full, and belong to prestigious golf clubs! Doesn't he have any cheap hobbies?

heirs to what? unearned privilege and wealth of course. The current incumbents have German heritage, how does that pan out for this ancient institution? I am not a supporter of the monarchy and think that as a country we need to grow up and end this expensive soap opera. It would also be a kindness not to elevate people into positions of prominence when many of them are clearly unsuited for that level of scrutiny and public expectation. Release all the royals into the wild, they will still be rich and privileged but will be able to be private citizens and move away from the madness of being venerated and/or vilified by the public. Andrew is a prime example of someone who loves all the trappings of being royal while clearly lacking any skills, talents or self-awareness.

Excellent post 👏👏

My mum's neigbour's son fought in the Falklands war and he said that Andrew was protected from risk at all times. Gossip I know but maybe there is a germ of truth in there

I genuinely think he’s too thick to feel shame. For that you need to be more switched on and informed about things (public opinion and an understanding of the moral and social climate) and have self-awareness.

He’ll be protected from the worst effects by his utter bone-headedness.

Only money and pomp cuts ice with Andrew, and only money with Sarah Ferguson.

She can't cling onto it. He's not a Duke anymore so she is not a Dutchess.

Hope he has to go and get a job, no more money from royalty and no free house and servants. Basically he should become a normal working class person,no privaliges what so ever

I'm in a two up two down! I am laughing at the thought of that pair of grifters living round here, shoving their way to the front of the food bank queue, getting sharp elbowed at the yellow sticker section in Asda and maybe flogging a bit of crack on the side to make ends meet. Fergie would be nicking stuff at the local market and Andrew might soon find his way to the red light area and haggle for reduced rates with a "doncha know who I am?"

He is a Duke. He's just not using the title. Shame, as the Duke of York title goes right back to the Plantaganets and hes pissed all over it. I cant see how its possible for his ex wife of 30 years to use Duchess of York though if he isn't allowed to use his! (Shed probably give it a go though

She can't cling onto it. He's not a Duke anymore so she is not a Dutchess.

That one could be an interesting one technically.

She won't cling onto it as her relinquishing it will be part of whatever deal they've made.

But his current title (or lack of) doesn't actually have any impact on her post-divorce title. She was Sarah, Duchess of York because she was married to the Duke of York and then they divorced and that was her new title. She'd have remained that even if he'd remarried, and even if in a major catastrophe he'd become King Andrew she'd still have been Sarah, Duchess of York. The only time her title would have changed would be if she remarried.

Her dropping York will have to have been part of the deal for it to happen so it's irrelevant really, but she could have clung to ir technically.

Although to be fair, there have been other reprobates who have held the title.

It’s getting worse

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/royals/article-15204739/Prince-Andrews-smear-Virginia-Giuffre-Emails-disgraced-royal-gave-sex-abuse-victims-confidential-social-security-number-Met.html

He thinks he’s the most entitled person in the world. Spoilt brat comes to mind. He’s so removed from reality it beggars belief. He happily was friends with a paedophile so come on not normal !!! The sad part of this is he won’t be accountable for his actions because he’s a prince. So terrible wrong. Please let the FBI investigate him.

True! Butvtheyve just done thecusual medieval Royal thing murdering rivals and the title has gone on. I doubt Louis will be using Duke of York anytime soon!