Andrew to lose Duke of York title

[Flixon]

News banner from the Torygraph saying Andrew and Sarah are losing their titles. They will be ‘put into Abeyance’ Andrew also to lose the Order of the Garter. Sarah will be known as Sarah Ferguson, he retains ‘Prince’ as he is the son of HM QE2.

bloody good job !

Exactly. The Church of England was founded because we had a King who was also an adulterer.

Why?

She’s not though. She’s using her title incorrectly in the style of a divorcee! Maybe it’s wishful thinking

Who cares? She's still married and entitled to use her title in whatever way she wants.

At least she's not divorced and grifting off of it for 30 years

I don't know what Prince Andrew is like in person, however, I do think that he has been vilified in public. Had he been a "ordinary" citizen and a relative or friend of mine I would feel quite annoyed by the vilification. He has not been convicted or charged with a crime. He has denied the allegations and in law is innocent as he has not even been charged with anything. This trial by media is really quite sinister when you consider that this could happen to others who maybe don't have the protection of living in a home which is very secure. I would be very concerned about his mental health given the relentless press treatment.

I would have thought someone with her self-avowed freakish attention to detail would want to get it right!

Nobody cares but it makes her look stupid!

He paid £10 million plus to someone he said he didn't know

And whilst I get the point of your post, we have to look at his past behaviour which has been absolutely abhorrent for the last 20 or 30 years. Trade Envoy, Pitch at Palace, all money making deals to grift off of the taxpayer. He has cosied up to oligarchs, very dodgy middle Eastern royals, arms dealers

Makes you wonder what happened behind the scenes

Yet

I'll come back and discuss this with you in 20 or 30 years time

He’s left himself wide open to the vilification and I’m sure he’ll continue to think he’s above it all by birthright.

He will have Sarah consoling him. Sure he’s the most honourable man she knows 🙄🙄🙄🙄

I'm sure the fact that Andrew was selected to be a helicopter pilot and not, say, a navigator, mechanic, cook, lorry driver, gun loader etc was entirely based on his merits and in no way whatsoever influenced by who his mum was.

Oh look, Charles was a pilot as well. As was William. And Harry. What a peculiar and entirely unconnected coincidence! There must be something in the royal genes that intrinsically makes them better pilots than swabbies who put grease on the ship propellor shafts!

Fucking useless, over-privileged chancers the lot of them.

Andrew’s behaviour at the Duchess of Kent’s funeral mass was staggeringly crass. I can quite believe he has no filters or morals whatsoever.

I would love to but I might have fallen off my perch by then.

I could well imagine dealings getting more murky the more desperate the Montecito grifters get. You heard it here first!

I sort of agree.
If he wasn’t going to be fully investigated/tried etc then he should really have wound his neck in long ago and disappeared though

He's just plain old Andy Windsor isn't he?

I guess it's a token gesture and we should all be happy that 60k wasn't spent per annum on incarcerating the bar-steward.

Edward does a very significant number of engagements, he just doesn't get the press coverage. He attended an event recently in my area, and impressed all who met him (including a number of people who would not call themselves royalists). He and Sophie are a credit to the monarchy.

I wonder if he will change his registration number too?

Actually, Princess Anne lives in a house bought for her as a wedding present by her mother (using inherited family money, nothing to do with the Civil Grant or taxpayers money). Gatcombe Park is a working farm which has to maintain itself and pays all taxes due to HMRC like any other farm, and that is what funds her personal lifestyle.

Yes she does receive money from the Civil List, but that is barely enough to pay the expenses of her "official" work as part of The Firm. She's been recorded as being the hardest working royal near enough every year since she started in the role in her teens. Being a farm owner, she pulls her weight on the farm the same as any other farm owner and doesn't live a "life of luxury". At the age of 75 and still carrying out royal duties most days, she's working pretty hard!

The taxpayer doesn't pay. Money comes from the Sovereign Grant and, actually, an amount is returned to the public purse.

Do you not wonder why he wasn't charged or convicted? If it was anybody else he would have been. The tip of the very greasy iceberg.

You have got to be kidding?
I take it you haven’t read the e-mail from him to Epstein a year after he claims he cut contact with him, when the Virginia Giuffre accusation was made public? Where he told Epstein that “we’re in this together” and that they would “play together again soon”.

FFS, what more do you need?

I’ll save my concerns for the mental health of the victims if it’s all the same.

Well, no. Meghan is entitled to call herself Duchess of Sussex- that's her title.
Using Meghan in front denotes that she is a divorcee, which she is not. Using titles incorrectly misleads- I'm not saying that's her intention, she probably just likes that formulation because it has her given name in it. Nobody has to care- it's still wrong though. Titles are formal and precise by their nature, it's not freestyle.

I only made the point because Sarah's continued use of Duchess wasn't her invention or his insistence as pp suggested, just a matter of form.

How big is this "an amount"? And how does it compare to the income tax, national insurance etc that the rest of us are required to pay?