Andrew to lose Duke of York title

[Flixon]

News banner from the Torygraph saying Andrew and Sarah are losing their titles. They will be ‘put into Abeyance’ Andrew also to lose the Order of the Garter. Sarah will be known as Sarah Ferguson, he retains ‘Prince’ as he is the son of HM QE2.

bloody good job !

This. He has not been 'stripped' of his titles at all, he has just chosen not to use them. His statement makes this very clear, it has been misreported by the BBC and others. His titles can only be removed by an Act of Parliament; so no Harry can't have the DofY title as it remains Andrew's.

Personally speaking I am not at all impressed with the attempt to take the public for fools yet again, by claiming this amounts to positive action against PA. The RF are never genuine in anything they do and the media connive with them to deceive us.

It’s good it’s done at last!
still whining on about being innocent despite all the evidence. Pompous, entitled creature. It probably wasn’t easy for KC, it is his brother when all said and done, but for the good of the Royal Family, to hold any credibility going forward it had to be done.

I’m pleased his Mother and Father haven’t seen all this?

I think folks are getting caught up in semantics, the titles are no longer his to use, he won’t be using them, the fact they haven’t been removed by parliament is irrelevant, he can’t use them. Charles is just letting him back out and own it, but it’s like Harry and hrh, he can’t use it, even if he wanted to. Andrew can’t use his, Sarah can’t use hers.

I agree. The titles are 'empty' in the sense that they don't come with any land or money, so why burden parliament with the lengthy and complex procedure of formally removing the Dukedom?

I wonder if Andrew was presented with a 'jump or be pushed' situation by Charles and indeed William? As in, 'voluntarily' give up your titles or we will go down the parliamentary route? Andrew absolutely loves those titles so I can't see him 'agreeing' to give them up without serious pressure.

Oh yeah! Wrong brother! Although I guess the point is the same 😅🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️

It’s been removed because of reputational damage to the RF. Damage can occur in many different ways and with varying levels of severity- so that doesn’t mean Harry is beyond reproach because he has an awful uncle to be compared to.

I fully expect not only Harry, but others too will have their titles removed once William is King.
The is a signal of things to come.

Edward and Sophie do quite a lot, they just rarely get press coverage. I follow the Royal Instagram account and they are often on engagements.

He’s not chosen it, that’s so naive, of course he didn’t chose this, you don’t seriously believe he decided not to use them, Charles has stripped him and allowed him to say it was him as the optics are better than Charles saying he did it,

it’s done, it’s not he is choosing not to today and can change his mind tomorrow, he can’t use them, again, ever.

Nonsense.

Poor didums these continued accusations from awfully deluded people have made you stand down you poor big ridiculous baby

I could- I find it just as annoying I have to contribute to her taxpayer-funded life of luxury as I do the rest of her lazy scrounger siblings.
I work in a primary school in a leafy area in the South East and we don't have enough money for basics for SEN kids so yes I begrudge funding one family who literally don't do anything to deserve it.

The BBC reported that basically they leveraged his daughters continuing involvement to get him to give them up.

I think the optics of that are very poor too. Wouldn’t surprise me if a move was on the cards

No it’s potentially a good situation. The primary function of the monarchy is to be the head of state - fulfill the needed constitutional duties, provide the government with soft diplomacy leverage, be there for big national moments - celebrations and mourning. And be a way to promote, highlight and celebrate the best of the UK.

A monarch, spouse and heir (and spouse) can be the slimmed down working model. Other family members can get dressed up and pad out the balcony or garden parties on an as needed basis but have fulfilling non royal working lives the rest of the time.

I thought this too when I heard. It’s the only thing they have over him.

Ho hum.... I don't quite understand this. Sarah as a divorced member of the royal family has used her Sarah, Duchess of York title for 70 books now. And far far more

Does this mean she can't use it at all now?

I effing hope so, she has traded off her royal title forever given she got divorced after about 6 years marrried in the nineties. And reading about her grifting over decades in Andrew Lownie's book made me sick.

It is nothing nothing nothing compared to Harry and Meghan. No wonder that couple try and make a living doing something given what Sarah (divorced from a member of the royal family since mid 90s) has been up to.
Sorry I should not have brought up H&M. Prepared for a firestorm...

Maybe they're aware of much more dirt in the pipeline.

I think we will never again see a photo of him with William - him pushing himself to the front at the Duchess of Kent’s funeral was just shameless.

W has been pictured happily driving the even then proven Uncle Scandal riding shotgun on two occasions,

Some of us won't forget however much he tries to distance himself from hereon in. But yes, he won't risk his image now 🙄

Yes, we really don't need the 1950s model that was kept on during the late Queen's reign.

"Ascends".

LOL.

Well his statement says he wont use them...so technically he hasnt lost them. Give it another dexade and he will stsrt using them again when its all died down

No she can’t use them at all. Neither can he.

He’s been faithful to all intents for well over 20 years!,
Well thats alright then! 😆

I'm not a fan of the royals, but have met P.Anne on several occasions many years ago at horse trials. She was so down to earth, preferred (in those days) to be called Mrs Phillips & swore like a trouper. As someone once said she was the son Prince Phillip never had. 😂

To the person who said there aren't many working royals left - am I right in thinking the Gloucesters do a bit? They're about 80 so might reasonably want to wrap that up sometime but I think they do appearances sometimes "on behalf of" the family.

It's weird language isn't it. A hang over from when we believed Kings had a divine right i assume.