Why is Meghan hated?

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I have very strong views about the Royals especially Camilla, however I am genuinely interested and want to find out more as to why Meghan Markle seems to be so hated. I'm asking in case there is something I have missed. I do read up as much as I can and watch shows from 'both sides' of the argument, but there is nothing that I have seen so far that warrants the level of sheer hatred geared towards her - I don't mean on here necessarily, but on social media in general. She cannot do ANYTHING without a swarm of people descending on her like vampires to tear her apart.

She isn't an adulteress, she's not a paedophile or sex offender, she isn't lazy, she seems to genuinely care about people in need.....and from what has been shown, she genuinely loves Harry and is just trying to make a life with him. He left the UK to start a life away from a nest of some awful people, his mother died when he was 12, his uncle is a sex offender, there is racism and a rigid set of rules within that family where he won't be king anyway so what is wrong with him leaving?

I'm not starting this to start an argument I am genuninely interested in why she is so rabidly disliked and why? Maybe I will start to feel differently if there is more of a reason but at the moment I cannot see one?

But Williams’s children were the children of the direct heir to the throne . There is clearly a difference. After they were born it was clear that Harry and his family were less important and by extension would not get the same rights and privileges. He would fall into the same camp as Prince Edward whose children didn’t take royal titles or have mass security.

@jumpingthehighjump- you should change your name to jumping to conclusions

Not sure she says that in the clip, she does say she had a lot going on including her Dad being an idiot a week before her very public wedding I am sure she felt very overwhelmed, you would of expected Kate to have a little empathy, but according to you if it was Kate crying classed as meghans fault but as it was Meghan crying she was a cry baby. Not sure you are being very fair.

The rules being that the monarchs grandchildren are / can use the titles, not great grandchildren! I believe the first born of William was entitled to the title, and believe I read that C&L were also bestowed this as G’s siblings, but not Harry, Eugene, Beatrice …. Etc children … they haven’t - it’s not about race, it’s about the monarchy rules

I don't hate Megan, I just don't find her particularly likeable, maybe that's a fault in me

If Kate was crying over tights and crappy made dresses for someone else’s wedding she’d also be a cry baby, it’s all nonsense to get upset and slag someone off over

But you get upset over nonsense stuff Meghan does...and come slag her off about it...

Lying under oath is illegal. It’s in a different league to lying about liking your friend’s new hairdo.

Well done you for sitting through a programme that is, in your words, godawful, crap and shite
Personally, I have a life to live and use the off button!

Jumping to conclusions again?

I don’t hate her.

I do think it’s odd you are allowed strong views, yet are unable to tolerate other people’s.

Your interpretation is incorrect. Only the grand children of the reigning monarch are automatically allowed to use the titles of Prince and Princess. As great grandchildren, Archie and Lili were not. The reason that the then Cambridge’s children were all immediately Prince and Princess was to prevent the possibility of a first born girl (although it didn’t happen in practice) being of a lower rank to a brother who she might later out rank as Queen. Once the late Queen died, Archie and Lili automatically had the right to use “Prince and Princess”. And anyway, they did have titles when they were born (“Earl” and “Lady”). Their parents just didn’t use them. Presumably because they were not Disney enough

I really get pissed off that she’s using my country, my RF and my monarchy, public money to lie, cheat, bully, sell herself with, etc … not going through the list of things again, a country that she’s slated, lied about, manipulated and treated dreadfully, and off the back of everything she’s greedily gobbled up, she’s expecting to carve name for herself off the back of it all!! Before she slept with and snagged the dim prince, she wasn’t on anyone’s radar, the RF and her marriage is all she’s got and she exploits it - that’s what I really get annoyed about, and so what if I call her out on this on threads about her or both of them?

She has shown she is not a nice person. And I once like her.

The rule about titles was set over a hundred years ago that at the great-grandchild line ONLY the eldest son of the eldest son of the male heir to the throne (Prince Charles at the time) would be entitled to the Prince title.

So sticking to that convention you would have:

Prince George
Lady Charlotte
Lord Louis
Lord Archie
Lady Lilibet

Until the point that Charles became King and then all his grandchildren would be upgraded to the Prince and Princess title automatically.

The ONLY reason the rules were changed for William’s children to make all of them Prince / Princess from birth was because just before George was born the rules for primogeniture changed to allow a female child to hold her place in the line of succession and not be passed over by her male siblings. So on the chance that the first born was going to be a girl and would have ended up as they heir with a lesser title than a younger brother they made a one off exception.

So Archie not having a Prince title at birth was just the regular rule at the time - no slight on his heritage.

Also security is not linked to titles - it’s given to both Royal and non royal people if the security services identify a certain level of risk based on intelligence information.

So both those assertions in the Oprah interview were completely false - Oprah is partly to blame here - her research team should have checked in that prior to broadcast and either edited it out or asked Meghan for a clarification.

What conclusions. I wrongly said you watched it for 5 miinutes probably, given how distasteful you found the programme.
You corrected me. You watched more I assume. Hence my answer.

You were the one that said it was crap, shite and godawful !

Snap! And you are right they could have chosen to style Archie with his father’s secondary title Earl of Dumbarton.

And you wrongly assumed I watched the whole thing too

Nope. Never said that.

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Well done you for sitting through a programme that is, in your words, godawful, crap and shite

That is not saying you watched 8 episodes.

One episode would be too much for me for a programme I found crap, godawful and shite.

But wasn’t it they were worried about Archie being teased by being called ‘dumb’ so they didn’t want to use it. Could be wrong on that though.

They could have just gone with Lord Archie if they wanted a title for him, I think.

Isn’t this exactly what Meghan did at PFW just the other day - laughing at someone who tripped over on the catwalk - and trying to get her friend to laugh with her?

these threads are like ground hog day. the same stuff over and over again.
posters desperately trying to pretend they don't hate her. pretending that Meghan does not have it worse that over rf women when it comes to online hate.
just look at this supposedly Royal family topic. really it is just a Meghan bash topic.
even mn hq are part of it, look how many times a thread is moved from somewhere else , where it might get a more mixed type of posts. yet they move it here , its all about the clicks.

Hehe.

Earl Dumb

Would this have been a problem at an elite UK private school full of kids from aristocratic families with daft titles?

I don't know, I mean I personally think of UK private schools as being full of mean bullies so it could be a problem, but that could be my working class prejudice showing and they may all be lovely kids with equally ridiculous titles so think nothing of it.

I didn’t watch a full episode, and I didn’t watch 5 minutes either - I won’t go into what I have seen because you’ll just come up with some garbage, the fact is that I have seen plenty to know it’s godawful and shite