Page 8 | Is Meghan a narcissist?

Clbs · 2025-09-28T07:20:57+00:00

I keep seeing these reels and social media smears on Meghan being a narcissist and abusive partner to Harry. She certainly doesn't seem overly popular with the royal family or understood the expectations of her as a royal when she married him. I'm by no means a royalist or a fan of Megan's. But I'm the same age as Harry so always felt I could relate a little to him. I haven't read his book or watched the netflix docs. The main thing that doesn't sit quite right for me is they wanted a 'private life' and then done anything but. Did Megan use Harry's desire for privacy to isolate him from his family and friends?

JSMill · 30/09/2025 19:07

BemusedAmerican · 30/09/2025 12:30

Nott Cottage was featured in a magazine spread ( metal dog bowls in the kitchen) when H & M lived there. The Gloucester family was moved out of a 20 room apartment in Kensington because it was to be renovated for H & M. Frogmore Cottage, which is actually very big, had millions spent on it to renovate it for H & M. Look at those Frogmore kitchen photos - obviously a new, pricey kitchen.

Harry even says in Spare that he didn't have to do any cooking or cleaning or laundry when he lived in Nott Cottage. The royal staff took care of all of that. The problem appears to have been that the staff didn't hire an interior decorator as Harry was apparently incapable of buying his own couch. Probably because they don't sell furniture at T.K. Maxx.

Remember that strange story in Spare about M having to help poor H out by buying him a sofa from Ikea on her credit card. This was intended to embarrass the RF in some way but I actually think it’s more embarrassing for her that she a) needed a credit card to buy an Ikea sofa but more importantly, b) she thought an Ikea sofa was a suitable piece of furniture for a Christopher Wren designed cottage.

prelovedusername · 30/09/2025 20:45

If Harry didn’t have a sofa it won’t have been because he couldn’t afford one.

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Clbs · 30/09/2025 21:54

jumpingthehighjump · 29/09/2025 06:38

Totally agree. There are some truly nasty posts on here, I sometimes wonder whether posters read back what they have written

And as predicted the OP has disappeared. She started a thread to have a go at Meghan and walked off. And what a coincidence it's a NCer with one solitary post

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I haven't disappeared

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Clbs · 30/09/2025 22:20

Thank you for responses to this...I hadn't lit a flame and run 😅 I just needed some time to absorb. I'm sorry to have drawn out so many strong feelings.

I apologise for the term 'narcissist', I was reiterating the SM slur. It is true only a clinician can diagnose someone with NPD but as I understand it, people are rarely actually diagnosed due to lack of insight and the stigma attached to it. Rather it is better to talk about narcissistic personality styles or traits. I also apologise for posting in 'chat', I'm new to MN so didn't realise there is a whole RF area.

You could say 'who cares' but I do because I'm interested in the psychology of people, what motivates them and how appearances can be deceptive. I'm interested in deception, patterns and cycles of abuse. How people use their children as weapons. I think it's helpful to observe people in life, and if that includes those in the spotlight then so be it. It's important to be able to recognise and protect against abuse in relationships. I try to imagine how I might feel if I was the mother in law of someone like Meghan, how I might feel about some of their decision making. She will have the upper hand if their relationship breaks down.

It strikes me that a good relationship is one where two people quietly bring eachother up, and their community up, in the face of adversity rather than get themselves in a desperate fluster and isolate themselves. Harry imo always looks so troubled and awkward, granted he is a grown man, but I think naive and lost. I know the media has the ability to crush who they want, but I can't help feeling if they'd kept quiet about their issues with RF (perceived or otherwise) they would have come out cleaner and happier in the long run.

There is of course the culture clash with America and a micro culture of stoicism, perhaps even a system of silence from FR. The RF (or institution) seem to have taken the 'less is more' approach to responding to Harry and Meghan with near close silence which is pretty powerful.

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NorthXNorthWest · 30/09/2025 22:32

Clbs · 30/09/2025 22:20

Thank you for responses to this...I hadn't lit a flame and run 😅 I just needed some time to absorb. I'm sorry to have drawn out so many strong feelings.

I apologise for the term 'narcissist', I was reiterating the SM slur. It is true only a clinician can diagnose someone with NPD but as I understand it, people are rarely actually diagnosed due to lack of insight and the stigma attached to it. Rather it is better to talk about narcissistic personality styles or traits. I also apologise for posting in 'chat', I'm new to MN so didn't realise there is a whole RF area.

You could say 'who cares' but I do because I'm interested in the psychology of people, what motivates them and how appearances can be deceptive. I'm interested in deception, patterns and cycles of abuse. How people use their children as weapons. I think it's helpful to observe people in life, and if that includes those in the spotlight then so be it. It's important to be able to recognise and protect against abuse in relationships. I try to imagine how I might feel if I was the mother in law of someone like Meghan, how I might feel about some of their decision making. She will have the upper hand if their relationship breaks down.

It strikes me that a good relationship is one where two people quietly bring eachother up, and their community up, in the face of adversity rather than get themselves in a desperate fluster and isolate themselves. Harry imo always looks so troubled and awkward, granted he is a grown man, but I think naive and lost. I know the media has the ability to crush who they want, but I can't help feeling if they'd kept quiet about their issues with RF (perceived or otherwise) they would have come out cleaner and happier in the long run.

There is of course the culture clash with America and a micro culture of stoicism, perhaps even a system of silence from FR. The RF (or institution) seem to have taken the 'less is more' approach to responding to Harry and Meghan with near close silence which is pretty powerful.

It wouldn't have mattered if they had kept quiet. The rabid racists in this country and certainly on these RF threads would still have torn them to shreds. From the hand touching of the bump to the chimp photo of the new baby the racists in this country had a field day.

jumpingthehighjump · 01/10/2025 05:00

I try to imagine how I might feel if I was the mother in law of someone like Meghan, how I might feel about some of their decision making

Why? Why tie yourself in knots 'trying to imagine' what it's like to be the MIL of a particular person who doesn't impact your life, has nothing to do with you. You only know a tarnished version of Meghan and I have no idea what 'someone like Meghan' is supposed to mean. American? Bi-racial? Ex-actress? Mother to two little children?
I'm a MIL. I let them get on with their lives whilst being there for them if they need me.

TooTooMuchEverything · 01/10/2025 05:45

Serenster · 30/09/2025 09:56

You might just have to trust us - she did.

If you’re interested the commentators on this site (which at the time had a lot of Royals coverage) are discussing the item coming out on the Lainey gossip site that day.

https://www.gofugyourself.com/royals-round-up-february-17th-2017-02-2017

It was presented as a blind by Lainey - i.e. no names given, but was obviously about Meghan and Kate. The same story was included by Omid Scobie’s book Finding in Finding Freedom, thus confirming that it was about Catherine and Meghan

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It’s a blind gossip item and as such, in my opinion, it’s not credible.

It can’t be proven that it came first from Lainey Gossip. Only that the story became widely known after the blind was published by Lainey. When I say widely known, I mean on forums lending themselves to gossip and speculation regarding the royal family. It’s interesting to me that the tabloids seem not to have picked it up in any significant way. And Meghan Markle would not have had to make a note of this particular story to Scobie, as it was already out there. It had been out there for about three years prior to publication of Scobie’s book. This would not have to have been included in her notes aka emails sent by Knauf.

TooTooMuchEverything · 01/10/2025 05:51

Clbs · 30/09/2025 22:20

Thank you for responses to this...I hadn't lit a flame and run 😅 I just needed some time to absorb. I'm sorry to have drawn out so many strong feelings.

I apologise for the term 'narcissist', I was reiterating the SM slur. It is true only a clinician can diagnose someone with NPD but as I understand it, people are rarely actually diagnosed due to lack of insight and the stigma attached to it. Rather it is better to talk about narcissistic personality styles or traits. I also apologise for posting in 'chat', I'm new to MN so didn't realise there is a whole RF area.

You could say 'who cares' but I do because I'm interested in the psychology of people, what motivates them and how appearances can be deceptive. I'm interested in deception, patterns and cycles of abuse. How people use their children as weapons. I think it's helpful to observe people in life, and if that includes those in the spotlight then so be it. It's important to be able to recognise and protect against abuse in relationships. I try to imagine how I might feel if I was the mother in law of someone like Meghan, how I might feel about some of their decision making. She will have the upper hand if their relationship breaks down.

It strikes me that a good relationship is one where two people quietly bring eachother up, and their community up, in the face of adversity rather than get themselves in a desperate fluster and isolate themselves. Harry imo always looks so troubled and awkward, granted he is a grown man, but I think naive and lost. I know the media has the ability to crush who they want, but I can't help feeling if they'd kept quiet about their issues with RF (perceived or otherwise) they would have come out cleaner and happier in the long run.

There is of course the culture clash with America and a micro culture of stoicism, perhaps even a system of silence from FR. The RF (or institution) seem to have taken the 'less is more' approach to responding to Harry and Meghan with near close silence which is pretty powerful.

yeah, you don’t like Meghan.

prelovedusername · 01/10/2025 06:27

Who does?

Serenster · 01/10/2025 06:38

TooTooMuchEverything · 01/10/2025 05:45

It’s a blind gossip item and as such, in my opinion, it’s not credible.

It can’t be proven that it came first from Lainey Gossip. Only that the story became widely known after the blind was published by Lainey. When I say widely known, I mean on forums lending themselves to gossip and speculation regarding the royal family. It’s interesting to me that the tabloids seem not to have picked it up in any significant way. And Meghan Markle would not have had to make a note of this particular story to Scobie, as it was already out there. It had been out there for about three years prior to publication of Scobie’s book. This would not have to have been included in her notes aka emails sent by Knauf.

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I always find it intriguing how many mental gymnastics Meghan’s supporters are willing to go through each and every time they face the possibility that it looks like Meghan herself may have done something that justifies those in her orbit having a poor opinion of her. Over and over again, it simply can’t be the simplest and most obvious answer because….that would lead to an uncomfortable truth?

jumpingthehighjump · 01/10/2025 06:45

What's she supposed to have done now?
I've had a Google, can't see any shock horror stories

I find the mental gymnastics to find something to criticise her for, something, anything, really laughable. And to think of new insults and names to call her. It's a desperate thing to observe! It's like some posters lives depend on it!

Falseknock · 01/10/2025 10:25

prelovedusername · 01/10/2025 06:27

Who does?

I do I have no reason to hate her or wish anything wicked to happen to her.

Falseknock · 01/10/2025 10:31

Clbs · 30/09/2025 22:20

Thank you for responses to this...I hadn't lit a flame and run 😅 I just needed some time to absorb. I'm sorry to have drawn out so many strong feelings.

I apologise for the term 'narcissist', I was reiterating the SM slur. It is true only a clinician can diagnose someone with NPD but as I understand it, people are rarely actually diagnosed due to lack of insight and the stigma attached to it. Rather it is better to talk about narcissistic personality styles or traits. I also apologise for posting in 'chat', I'm new to MN so didn't realise there is a whole RF area.

You could say 'who cares' but I do because I'm interested in the psychology of people, what motivates them and how appearances can be deceptive. I'm interested in deception, patterns and cycles of abuse. How people use their children as weapons. I think it's helpful to observe people in life, and if that includes those in the spotlight then so be it. It's important to be able to recognise and protect against abuse in relationships. I try to imagine how I might feel if I was the mother in law of someone like Meghan, how I might feel about some of their decision making. She will have the upper hand if their relationship breaks down.

It strikes me that a good relationship is one where two people quietly bring eachother up, and their community up, in the face of adversity rather than get themselves in a desperate fluster and isolate themselves. Harry imo always looks so troubled and awkward, granted he is a grown man, but I think naive and lost. I know the media has the ability to crush who they want, but I can't help feeling if they'd kept quiet about their issues with RF (perceived or otherwise) they would have come out cleaner and happier in the long run.

There is of course the culture clash with America and a micro culture of stoicism, perhaps even a system of silence from FR. The RF (or institution) seem to have taken the 'less is more' approach to responding to Harry and Meghan with near close silence which is pretty powerful.

Yet you choose Meghan? I can think of a few celebrities who show of their children with no shame whatsoever. Let's not pretend this is not a direct attack at Meghan. It's getting more tedious and stupid. Give up

chunkybear · 01/10/2025 10:38

@Falseknock- don’t forget though that the children aren’t allowed to see family members, and they keep their faces covered, so not just using them as currency, but hiding them from family, using them like weapons too

jumpingthehighjump · 01/10/2025 10:42

What an unpleasant post.
Leave those two little children out of it.

prelovedusername · 01/10/2025 10:54

Falseknock · 01/10/2025 10:25

I do I have no reason to hate her or wish anything wicked to happen to her.

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Where did anyone say they hated her or wished anything wicked to happen to her? People are taking a view on the conduct of a woman who actively seeks fame and appears to have no scruples in how she achieves that. That’s a long way from hate.

Falseknock · 01/10/2025 10:55

chunkybear · 01/10/2025 10:38

@Falseknock- don’t forget though that the children aren’t allowed to see family members, and they keep their faces covered, so not just using them as currency, but hiding them from family, using them like weapons too

That's Harry's pain not Meghan's he needs to reconcile first before involving the children. I kept my children out of my families mess.

Falseknock · 01/10/2025 10:58

prelovedusername · 01/10/2025 10:54

Where did anyone say they hated her or wished anything wicked to happen to her? People are taking a view on the conduct of a woman who actively seeks fame and appears to have no scruples in how she achieves that. That’s a long way from hate.

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She's American it's in her blood to work they don't have PIP to rely on.

Outig · 01/10/2025 10:58

Leave those two little children out of it.

That would be very honorable of you and all that, if their own mother didn’t feel the compulsion to commodify their presence on her influencer SM posts.

Falseknock · 01/10/2025 10:59

Outig · 01/10/2025 10:58

Leave those two little children out of it.

That would be very honorable of you and all that, if their own mother didn’t feel the compulsion to commodify their presence on her influencer SM posts.

Most people do it why can't Meghan.

prelovedusername · 01/10/2025 11:01

Falseknock · 01/10/2025 10:55

That's Harry's pain not Meghan's he needs to reconcile first before involving the children. I kept my children out of my families mess.

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Hasn’t he just given the King a framed photo confirmed by his spokesperson not to include him and his wife? So presumably he’s very much involving the children.

jumpingthehighjump · 01/10/2025 11:01

I have no idea what they look like, I've only seen the back of their heads.

Saying they are 'weapons' is 😮

Serenster · 01/10/2025 11:05

Falseknock · 01/10/2025 10:59

Most people do it why can't Meghan.

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Most people who do it (i.e. use images of their children for commercial gain) are criticised, why can’t Meghan be?

Falseknock · 01/10/2025 11:08

prelovedusername · 01/10/2025 11:01

Hasn’t he just given the King a framed photo confirmed by his spokesperson not to include him and his wife? So presumably he’s very much involving the children.

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He's in pain

Outig · 01/10/2025 11:09

If they stuck to their principles she would not feel the need to repeatedly post photos of her kids backsides and various bodyparts. Plenty of celebs manage to keep their kids totally off their SM.