Is Meghan a narcissist?

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I keep seeing these reels and social media smears on Meghan being a narcissist and abusive partner to Harry. She certainly doesn't seem overly popular with the royal family or understood the expectations of her as a royal when she married him.

I'm by no means a royalist or a fan of Megan's. But I'm the same age as Harry so always felt I could relate a little to him. I haven't read his book or watched the netflix docs.

The main thing that doesn't sit quite right for me is they wanted a 'private life' and then done anything but. Did Megan use Harry's desire for privacy to isolate him from his family and friends?

My heart bleeds for him that he had to use his own money

it’s been proven they both have told lies.

I don’t think anyone would disagree with you there

Plenty of people are fascinated by true crime and serial killers, there is a whole tv industry around the Nazis, the political biography would barely be a thing if people weren’t fascinated by a whole range of people from the unlikeable to the downright horrifying.

C’mon, just admit that you’d LOVE it if she failed!!

As Ever seems to have stuck, sort of, so hopefully that will carry on

I've just had a look at the As Ever website, for the first time: most of the offerings are either "sold out" or "coming soon", and there's only one type of wine available.

If it's ever going to be commercially viable, in that it makes enough money to sustain a multi millionair lifestyle, she needs to do better than that.

That doesn’t mean anything! Failed at what? It’s all subjective.

I admit that after the grandiosity of ‘collaborating’ with the Queen and suchlike I was ready to see H&M come down a peg or two. However, I never expected them to be so adept at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Every fantastic opportunity they have had, they have destroyed, strewing burnt bridges and broken relationships in their wake.

I find it fascinating.

It was good enough for William, Kate and George (2011-13) who lived their right before Harry moved in (2013-9). Harry would have been responsible for furnishing it himself which perhaps is why it looks like a bachelor pad. But there is no reason that Harry and Meghan could not have bought nicer furniture and redecorated at their own expense like the rest of the RF.

Nottingham Cottage is one of 3 cottages that are popular homes for royal couples. The neighbours are the Duke (and late Duchess) of Kent who have lived in Wren cottage since the 1990s and Princess Eugenie and Jack Brooksbank who lived in Ivy Cottage from 2018-20,

It is the pattern for the RF that nobody moves directly into a massive mansion. Most married couples start in a small home, then they get a larger family home and possibly a country estate. Harry and Meghan followed the norm - the small home (Nottingham cottage), a newly renovated family home with 4 bedrooms plus a nursery (Frogmore cottage) and there were rumours back in 2019 that they were offered a country home in Herefordshire but turned it down.

Lol at those posters screaming how she is a liar. Yeah how many lies have they told in their life? Have they aren't do virtuous themselves are they, they will have lied, just might not be in a public way but doesnt mean they haven't...they must also hate themselves and poor vitriol on themselves in the same way they do about her.

I wonder if they also say Altham about their children when they have been caught lying...

I was sympathetic to her before the Oprah show.
Then the bomb dropped.
I still don't understand why she did it.
I guess she never had a real family, so she doesn't see any value in it.

Most normal British people give this subject no thought either way. And if we did, we don’t have access to her medical records.

Meghan obviously has some sort of personality disorder going on reported behaviour. She was accusing of bullying staff and having a fit over a tiara literally 5 minutes in from becoming a member of the RF.

She was a minor actress in a cable TV series, obviously not used to the trappings of royalty, and most people in her position would have been a bit over awed and respectful of being part of a world famous, centuries old institution, not barking orders at staff, messaging them at 5am, making them cry, throwing cups of tea or demanding particular tiaras!

Certainly not dictating to her brand new SIL (a future Queen) on what her toddler daughter wore on her legs with her bridesmaid dress, or degrading her to 'pregnancy hormones', and telling the world that she made her cry (stopping short of saying what she actually did though) and wasn't keen on letting her borrow her lip gloss, although she did. I mean, how spectacularly petty!

I see there were reported issues with staff turnover in the US as well.

Meghan was a member of the RF for less than 3 years when they did the Oprah interview after they ran off to Canada in a huff after being told they had to abide by RF protocols. She seems to have thought she could dictate what role she would have and was so full of self importance that I think she thought SHE would be the one who would be the most important and popular member of the RF.

Aren't delusions of grandeur a classic sign of narcissism?

There was no way someone like her would play second fiddle to Kate, but why not though, Kate had been part of the family for much longer, was to be the future Queen and rightly had much more of a visible role. Most people would have understood that and probably been a bit relieved that they wouldn't have such a visible role but not if you want all the attention on you!

The running off after not getting her own way was classic narcissistic rage as was all the mud slinging about the RF afterwards.

I firmly believe the books, including Harry's, and the Netflix series was all down to her. I really don't think Harry has the capacity to come up with all that.

I also think she set her father up because she didn't want him at the wedding, or be involved with Harry and the RF because she thought he was beneath them, and her in her new royal life.

I think Harry is not a nice person either, and is just as jealous of William as Meghan is of Catherine, and was a willing participant in trying to destroy the RF before William becomes King. He definitely wouldn't have had the ability for the calculated deceitfulness and strategic tactics to do it without her though.

She didn't know what she was getting into when she joined the RF - seen through an American lens, it looked a lot like Hollywood celebrity, but the reality (as all Brits know) is it is the very essence of hierarchy, so unless you are the heir, your life is one long slide down the ladder and one of toeing the line, doing as you are told and living where you are told. There's an element of luxury, but it's pretty much a gilded cage. Similarly he didn't really know what he was getting into when he left the RF - he'd grown up with police protection and everything being paid for as the norm and I don't think it crossed his mind for a single moment that once he'd left the UK and his children were American citizens he'd never be able to go back (Prince or Princess it makes no odds - they'll be staying in the US unless Meg says otherwise). He's now in a cage of his own (and Meghan's) making. Alarm bells should have rung for him when, apart from her mum, M didn't invite a single member of her family to the wedding. H is now well and truly cut himself off from his own family, which may have felt good in the storming off phase, but he now has a lifetime to ponder what it really means to burn your bridges. I feel a bit sorry for him - having read his book I can see that being the solitary spare to the heir might make you feel a bit pushed out. William and Kate have avoided this situation by having three children.

What a load of shit

My, what a well considered, witty riposte 🤣

Shit posts deserve shit replies 🤣🤣

I find her so disingenuous it’s hard for me to watch her in any way. Her directive arm/ hand always prodding Harry makes me wince as does her overly emotive face during her podcast interviews with the likes of Jamie Kern. I didn’t watch her show for this reason.

i think she has already spectacularly failed. Surely this isn’t the life she and Harry envisioned for themselves. I wish I could rewind time and see her slow it down and slowly adapt and integrate into the family and royal life. It would have been nice for William and Harry spouses and children to be the Royals we would be watching in the future.

See, I don’t think she has “failed”, I think she’s exactly where she wants to be which is a much discussed, globally known figure.

but discussing a complete stranger and deciding if they are a narcissist is ok 😂

Agree with so many people that narcissist is so overused on MN and we have no idea whether she is or is not.

I also agree that she could not believe her luck when she snagged Hazza. He is too thick to consider why this beautiful, independent American wants to give it all up and move to England to play a minor role in the royal family, opening community centres in Peterborough.

She was clearly ill-prepared for what life as a Royal would be like. She clearly also doesn't want to play second fiddle to anyone and struggled with the protocol. It was probably Harry's job to explain things to her and tell/show her what was appropriate and what was not appropriate and again, he totally failed in that. This mismatch of expectations is what caused the initial problems.

However, in dealing with this mismatch of expectations they have chosen not to just go away quietly and do their own thing, they have chosen to lie and lob in a few hand grenades with Oprah and Spare and the rest of it. Distance themselves from the Royals but continue to use the titles as they're good marketing value.

She is pretty awful and ruthless but Harry is weak and just as bad. Agree that Charles seems pretty forgiving, even though Harry has said horrid things about Camilla. Kate and William are another matter and I don't think we'll ever see them on anything more than civil terms.

The turnover of staff is not a load of shit. It true

Neither is telling lies which the pair of them have done on numerous occasions.

Fascinating is the word. Harry through birth and Meghan through marriage were 2 of the most privileged people on earth. However they claimed to be very hard done by & tried to convince us far less fortunate folk that this was the case.

They remained privileged after leaving the RF & benefitted from the support of many influential people in the US. They were also in a position to pay for a lot of professional help including PR.

Despite this everything they touch seems to go arse up. It's like seeing a poker player being dealt a Straight Royal Flush yet still lose the game. Makes you wonder how they managed it. Fascinating indeed.

I find her so disingenuous it’s hard for me to watch her in any way. Her directive arm/ hand always prodding Harry makes me wince as does her overly emotive face

Don't watch her then, it's not that hard! I purposely avoid reading about or looking at anyone who annoys me

Same old ?