Page 5 | Is Meghan a narcissist?

Clbs · 2025-09-28T07:20:57+00:00

I keep seeing these reels and social media smears on Meghan being a narcissist and abusive partner to Harry. She certainly doesn't seem overly popular with the royal family or understood the expectations of her as a royal when she married him. I'm by no means a royalist or a fan of Megan's. But I'm the same age as Harry so always felt I could relate a little to him. I haven't read his book or watched the netflix docs. The main thing that doesn't sit quite right for me is they wanted a 'private life' and then done anything but. Did Megan use Harry's desire for privacy to isolate him from his family and friends?

Betty1625 · 29/09/2025 07:12

MeandBobbyMcGoo · 28/09/2025 23:54

I always read these threads but never comment. I think Meghan had no idea how the royals are actually just custodians of huge riches and not living like billionaires. That's pretty obvious to see in any palace/castle tour. Absolutely priceless things but not really luxurious in the modern sense. I then think she wanted to be richer and interact with the uber rich more, and asked for the half in half out settlement which didn't work and then had to change the narrative to suit. I think Harry is very, very dim and did not prepare her at all or explained anything to her. Her performance when an HIV positive mother in South Africa was telling her harrowing life story made me see Meghan differently. Every moment seems to be time for her close up. Is she a narcissist - maybe, maybe not but I don't think she's a lot of fun to be around.

I think thats the crux of it - Harry didn't prepare her at all. They should've taken time to introduce her into British culture, traditions etc, eased her into the role, but they seem to have wanted to be rock-star royals, i believe it was also grating to the public

NewAgeNewMe · 29/09/2025 07:14

I don’t particularly like Meghan & Harry’s actions but I think this is a horrid thread.

SisterTeatime · 29/09/2025 07:26

Yes, I think she is. She seems to display all the traits of narcissism.

As well as the obvious lies and grandiosity there is the need to be envied that just radiates from her. She is unable to maintain even relationships that would benefit her from a transactional perspective. That’s why I think she’s ill/personality disordered as opposed to just ambitious and ruthless. Agree with pp that she also displays very odd behaviours at times.

I think both she and Harry have significant mental health issues. While I will freely admit that H&M are a bit of a special interest of mine, due to their ability to do the wrong and most offensive thing at every opportunity, I feel sorry for them as well because I think they’ve both had a lot of trauma and are extremely damaged.

bluegreygreen · 29/09/2025 09:13

However I find it bizarre that people really try to insist she hasn’t lied when she demonstrably has. Repeatedly.

Including in court.

Bladderpool · 29/09/2025 10:10

I genuinely don’t have any beef with her but the pointless, easily refuted lies really make me doubt her credibility in every aspect of her life. Her lies don’t serve any purpose and they’re completely transparent. Why does she do this?

BigAnne · 29/09/2025 10:11

SpidersAreShitheads · 29/09/2025 05:33

There is a bit of a trend to throw around the narcissist label. It’s really overused along with other buzzwords like gaslighting.

The media are capable of spinning things either way, so I think it’s best to judge someone by what you see and hear yourself.

The problem I have is that Meghan lies. Both deliberately and clearly, and also by the things she implies. And then there are other stories that are so implausible they are extremely hard to believe - but veer onto sensitive subjects so no one really wants to suggest outright that she’s lying about them as well. “Her truth” is not the same as “the truth”.

Harry is just as full of BS. Spare contained provable lies (such as the story about where he was when the Queen Mum died - there are actual photos placing him elsewhere).

I also think that for two people who talk a lot about the damage the press can do, publicly rubbishing their family/inlaws in a documentary series, Oprah interview, and a book shows real disregard for their welfare. They knew how much distress such a huge public campaign would cause and they didn’t care - despite all the word salads about stopping harmful public discourse.

And then there’s all the “coincidental” launches. Repeatedly on Catherine’s birthday, when William was on stage launching the Earth Award - even though she clearly wasn’t actually ready to launch anything. I thought initially it was just coincidental but years of Meghan launching something or releasing juicy tidbits just when the Royals, especially William and Catherine were doing something, you’d have to be a fool to believe it’s just a series of unfortunate coincidences.

The video doing the rounds this week of Meghan walking off stage abruptly is just bizarre. She’s certainly someone who prefers being front and centre.

She launches so many businesses or side hustles, only to abruptly abandon them. As Ever seems to have stuck, sort of, so hopefully that will carry on. I hope her and Harry do well enough to be content so they’re not tempted into releasing more spite and malice.

I understand there will be people who feel sorry for Meghan. And I do think maybe there’s an element of a culture clash - it’s hard for a lot of Brits to be comfortable with the typical Cali vibe, as we find it lacking in authenticity and a bit self-absorbed. However I find it bizarre that people really try to insist she hasn’t lied when she demonstrably has. Repeatedly. The media are bastards but she courts publicity and really doesn’t help herself.

I don’t know whether Meghan or Harry is worse, or whether they just bring out the negative traits in each other.

That video was very bizarre. I felt a bit sorry for her.

DietQueen2023 · 29/09/2025 10:18

Fgs just leave the woman alone.
The women on here who continue to slate her / start posts / contribute to posts about her and adding fuel to the fire just make you look unhinged.
Get a life!

Bladderpool · 29/09/2025 10:22

DietQueen2023 · 29/09/2025 10:18

Fgs just leave the woman alone.
The women on here who continue to slate her / start posts / contribute to posts about her and adding fuel to the fire just make you look unhinged.
Get a life!

It’s a reasonable discussion with different perspectives and opinions, MM is a divisive public figure. No one asked you to click on a thread about her and can you stop insulting others on the thread. Calling people unhinged and telling them to get a life is rude and unnecessary. Frankly it’s not putting you in the best light.

jumpingthehighjump · 29/09/2025 10:24

Bladderpool · 29/09/2025 10:22

It’s a reasonable discussion with different perspectives and opinions, MM is a divisive public figure. No one asked you to click on a thread about her and can you stop insulting others on the thread. Calling people unhinged and telling them to get a life is rude and unnecessary. Frankly it’s not putting you in the best light.

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Given she's called a bitch a grifter and far far worse I wouldn't repeat, I don't think that poster is the unhinged one

jumpingthehighjump · 29/09/2025 10:25

DietQueen2023 · 29/09/2025 10:18

Fgs just leave the woman alone.
The women on here who continue to slate her / start posts / contribute to posts about her and adding fuel to the fire just make you look unhinged.
Get a life!

Agreed. And where's the OP? Nowhere to be seen since she started the thread, I bet she's loving it

Tryingatleast · 29/09/2025 10:27

CurlewKate

No idea. Who cares. But narcissism is one of the most armchair mis-diagnosed conditions there is. It does no favours to the victims of genuine narcissists. It doesn’t mean “someone you don’t like”!

Oh my hod this so much- I think the human population are just all narcissists to someone at this stage!!!!

sciaticafanatica · 29/09/2025 10:56

I think she is a fame hungry, money grabbing grifter who was shrewd enough to grab herself an emotionally weak, mentally ill royal and the rest is history

DietQueen2023 · 29/09/2025 11:04

Bladderpool · 29/09/2025 10:22

It’s a reasonable discussion with different perspectives and opinions, MM is a divisive public figure. No one asked you to click on a thread about her and can you stop insulting others on the thread. Calling people unhinged and telling them to get a life is rude and unnecessary. Frankly it’s not putting you in the best light.

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Fed up of the same Meghan-bashing threads over and over.

Wish Mumsnet would ban speaking about her.

jumpingthehighjump · 29/09/2025 11:16

DietQueen2023 · 29/09/2025 11:04

Fed up of the same Meghan-bashing threads over and over.

Wish Mumsnet would ban speaking about her.

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And me. It's same old crap with same old posters feverishly trying to come up with some new insult.
It's like groundhog day and doesn't convince anyone to start hating her. Quite the opposite in fact

SisterTeatime · 29/09/2025 11:51

jumpingthehighjump · 29/09/2025 11:16

And me. It's same old crap with same old posters feverishly trying to come up with some new insult.
It's like groundhog day and doesn't convince anyone to start hating her. Quite the opposite in fact

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Obviously people can think what they want. I dont hate her. I do find her fascinating and I freely admit that.

chunkybear · 29/09/2025 11:52

sciaticafanatica · 29/09/2025 10:56

I think she is a fame hungry, money grabbing grifter who was shrewd enough to grab herself an emotionally weak, mentally ill royal and the rest is history

Absolutely this! She’s a liar too, and grifting off of the British Royal Family, and the UK - odious narcissist

ERthree · 29/09/2025 12:02

ohyesido · 28/09/2025 17:55

No, I think she’s a perfectly nice woman who has been vilified by the press and treated cruelly by key people in the royal household. I believe that she’s told the truth and is bewildered by the public hatred for her

The known lies ? How on earth do you square those ?

ERthree · 29/09/2025 12:02

ohyesido · 28/09/2025 17:55

No, I think she’s a perfectly nice woman who has been vilified by the press and treated cruelly by key people in the royal household. I believe that she’s told the truth and is bewildered by the public hatred for her

The known lies ? How on earth do you square those ?

MrsSkylerWhite · 29/09/2025 12:05

twoanddonee · 28/09/2025 08:39

I think the relationship will break down. There is too much history and hard feeling.
As soon as the kids grow up, and show an interest or want to visit their royal family, (they are named Prince and Princess after all, she was happy to take those names despite hating “the institution”), or if Harry even dares describe parts of the royal life, his upbringing etc to the children and in front of Meghan, in a positive and favourable way, he will instantly be in big trouble with her for encouraging them to “move away from her!” You can imagine it quite clearly.

I do think she is a narcissist in its simplest form.

Gosh, you must these people so well.

MrsSkylerWhite · 29/09/2025 12:05

Must know.

SpottyAardvark · 29/09/2025 12:12

forgotmyusername1 · 29/09/2025 07:06

I think Megan's idea of being a princess came from Disney movies and the hallmark channel. She thought you get to wear pretty dresses, go to balls, be famous and wave at the crowds. She didn't realise it is a job with expectations, that you have to go to places you don't want to go and there is a pecking order based on rank, that there is an institution that must be fit into and the price for the money, fame and jewells is personal freedom - the ultimate 'guilded cage'. Maybe Harry didn't teach her, maybe she didn't want to learn but either way she was unprepared for the realities of being in the monarchy.

You make an excellent point about the pecking order.

Markle thought she would become the shining new A list star of the RF. She thought her celebrity would enhance their status. Wrong. Because she didn’t understand the reality of the pecking order. She didn’t understand that she would never outshine Catherine, no matter how much media coverage she got because C will be Queen. She didn’t understand that her own place in the pecking order will inevitably decline when W&C’s children grow up. Because that’s how the monarchy works. She thought she would become the new Diana, but when she realised that her actual role was to be the new Fergie her ego couldn’t handle that so she decided to get out.

jumpingthehighjump · 29/09/2025 12:17

'Odious'

That's a new one! Haven't seen that before!

As for finding her 'fascinating' , I'm not sure I would call someone I found fascinating a liar, and a narcissist 🥺

Not2identifying · 29/09/2025 12:29

I think @SpidersAreShitheads is right to mention her California roots. I think even the rest of America thinks of Californians as often being culturally 'different'.

Yesterday I watched the 'yellow dress' interview and, as a Brit, I really struggled to warm to her. And I completely understand that she is likely just as 'discombobulated' by UK culture - especially the Royal Family culture and the British media landscape. I would find both of those tough but, in my view, they've both behaved completely predictably* whereas I think Meghan has found them very contrary.

*I said 'predictably' on purpose. I don't mean to insinuate that the RF and the BM have always behaved reasonably towards her, just that they've behaved exactly as I - with my British background - would expect them to behave. The latter enjoyed turning her into clickbait and the former is likely to have made some mis-steps somewhere along the line. Just because I'm sceptical about H&M's version of events doesn't mean I think the RF always make perfect decisions.

As for the original question, I think she comes from a culture where her actions make sense within that culture (including a hyper focus on the self), and particularly if she were lower profile and didn't have the level of public scrutiny that she now gets. It's a bit odd that she hasn't 'course corrected' - recognised that her public profile means that she'll get found out if she shares 'her truth' as opposed to 'the truth'. I'm not sure I have a good explanation for that. Maybe she's been in crisis mode and it's hard to think straight.

ohyesido · 29/09/2025 12:31

ERthree · 29/09/2025 12:02

The known lies ? How on earth do you square those ?

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How do you square that they are known lies?

I believe that she was cold shouldered and shunned by certain key figures because she was not the wife they would have chosen for Harry. I believe they had a preconceived belief about her and treated her with disdain

CurlewKate · 29/09/2025 12:52

I do wish that all flavours of RF watchers would put their telepathic skills to a better cause….