Is Meghan a narcissist?

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I keep seeing these reels and social media smears on Meghan being a narcissist and abusive partner to Harry. She certainly doesn't seem overly popular with the royal family or understood the expectations of her as a royal when she married him.

I'm by no means a royalist or a fan of Megan's. But I'm the same age as Harry so always felt I could relate a little to him. I haven't read his book or watched the netflix docs.

The main thing that doesn't sit quite right for me is they wanted a 'private life' and then done anything but. Did Megan use Harry's desire for privacy to isolate him from his family and friends?

We can’t know whether she’s actually been diagnosed with Narcissistic personality disorder.

I don’t think that in reality she enjoyed living in the UK with all the strict restrictions being a member of the RF requires. Had they taken a bit more time before marriage, she probably would have realised that Royal life wasn't for her. But they were in love, didn’t necessarily have a lot of time to date before having children they both wanted. Harry put her and their children before his family and Royal duty.

I do think that he is very impressionable and probably regrets Spare. I imagine the money was irresistible to him.

I don’t think it’s really any more complicated than that.

Andrew was born in 1960. Virginia in 1983.

Thank you. I knew he couldn’t have been only 21 when she was 17.

So he was 40. What a disgusting piece of shit he is.

No, I think she’s a perfectly nice woman who has been vilified by the press and treated cruelly by key people in the royal household. I believe that she’s told the truth and is bewildered by the public hatred for her

So agree

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Neither Frogmore Cottage nor the UK Ambassador to South Africa's residence was up to scratch for M, a former renter of a modest home in Toronto.

To paraphrase the late QE2, M was far too grand for the House of Windsor.

I don’t know what’s going on with her, but she comes across as extremely unlikeable.

She looks absolutely manic in some of her interviews, huge smile at really inappropriate times, and often not making any sense whatsoever. There is a speech she gave wearing a red outfit, and she looked utterly absurd, speaking through a permanent open mouthed smile.

She is very attractive and that gets people places.

The "hovel" that is a Grade II listed building designed by world famous architect Sir Christopher Wren (who is better known for St Pauls Cathedral)?

The "hovel" where his neighbours were Princess Eugenie (Ivy cottage) and the Duke of Kent (Wren cottage)?

The "hovel" where Prince William and Catherine lived for 3 years - with Prince George as well?

Harry could have spent a bit of his own £2 million a year allowance or some of the millions he inherited when he turned 21 buying some decent non-IKEA furniture or organised a decorator.

And as for the "workers cottage" .... it was also a Grade II listed, historic house with significant royal connections built be Queen Charlotte in 1801, and also home to the Grand Duchess Xenia Alexandrovna. It was converted to Harry and Meghan's specifications in 2019 at a cost of £2.4 million from the sovereign grant but then the announced 6-7 months after moving in that they were leaving the UK. They were meant to pay rent after stepping back as working royals.

However, Harry was given a hovel to live in when he was with Megan and the workers cottage he was later leased was decrepit and he had to fix up using his own money.

I must admit, I thought this bit was a wind-up, as no-one really could be so daft, could they?

Is that what William and Kate said to you. You must know them so well.

I always read these threads but never comment. I think Meghan had no idea how the royals are actually just custodians of huge riches and not living like billionaires. That's pretty obvious to see in any palace/castle tour. Absolutely priceless things but not really luxurious in the modern sense. I then think she wanted to be richer and interact with the uber rich more, and asked for the half in half out settlement which didn't work and then had to change the narrative to suit. I think Harry is very, very dim and did not prepare her at all or explained anything to her. Her performance when an HIV positive mother in South Africa was telling her harrowing life story made me see Meghan differently. Every moment seems to be time for her close up. Is she a narcissist - maybe, maybe not but I don't think she's a lot of fun to be around.

Thank you.

I'm so tired of armchair psychiatrists diagnosing people with personality disorders. Especially people they don’t actually know in real life.

Because it’s a historic house doesn’t mean it’s a good house to live in now. The photos I’ve seen of Nottingham cottage aren’t impressive.

Not debating that Wren wasn’t a brilliant architect, but like all architects he would have had a brief. And really that brief looks like it had a very strict and minimal budget.

The location though is pretty damn good 👍

A hovel?

You don't need to have met someone to like or dislike their actions and their output though. She creates a great deal of her own negative public image.

No. But you probably have to have met somebody to diagnose a significant psychological pathology. Oh, and having a having a medical qualification would help too….

The 'hovel' (Nott Cottage?) was once lived in by William and Kate too.

There is a bit of a trend to throw around the narcissist label. It’s really overused along with other buzzwords like gaslighting.

The media are capable of spinning things either way, so I think it’s best to judge someone by what you see and hear yourself.

The problem I have is that Meghan lies. Both deliberately and clearly, and also by the things she implies. And then there are other stories that are so implausible they are extremely hard to believe - but veer onto sensitive subjects so no one really wants to suggest outright that she’s lying about them as well. “Her truth” is not the same as “the truth”.

Harry is just as full of BS. Spare contained provable lies (such as the story about where he was when the Queen Mum died - there are actual photos placing him elsewhere).

I also think that for two people who talk a lot about the damage the press can do, publicly rubbishing their family/inlaws in a documentary series, Oprah interview, and a book shows real disregard for their welfare. They knew how much distress such a huge public campaign would cause and they didn’t care - despite all the word salads about stopping harmful public discourse.

And then there’s all the “coincidental” launches. Repeatedly on Catherine’s birthday, when William was on stage launching the Earth Award - even though she clearly wasn’t actually ready to launch anything. I thought initially it was just coincidental but years of Meghan launching something or releasing juicy tidbits just when the Royals, especially William and Catherine were doing something, you’d have to be a fool to believe it’s just a series of unfortunate coincidences.

The video doing the rounds this week of Meghan walking off stage abruptly is just bizarre. She’s certainly someone who prefers being front and centre.

She launches so many businesses or side hustles, only to abruptly abandon them. As Ever seems to have stuck, sort of, so hopefully that will carry on. I hope her and Harry do well enough to be content so they’re not tempted into releasing more spite and malice.

I understand there will be people who feel sorry for Meghan. And I do think maybe there’s an element of a culture clash - it’s hard for a lot of Brits to be comfortable with the typical Cali vibe, as we find it lacking in authenticity and a bit self-absorbed. However I find it bizarre that people really try to insist she hasn’t lied when she demonstrably has. Repeatedly. The media are bastards but she courts publicity and really doesn’t help herself.

I don’t know whether Meghan or Harry is worse, or whether they just bring out the negative traits in each other.

What a nasty, misogynistic post. You all really need to go out and tough some grass.

I don’t know. What sticks in my mind though, is that ridiculous over the top curtesy she did in an interview, showing us how she had curtsied to the late Queen.
It seemed like such a mean thing to do and Harry just sits there watching her take the piss out of his grandma. I honestly think they’re as bad as each other.
He’s an ungrateful spoiled brat.

Totally agree. There are some truly nasty posts on here, I sometimes wonder whether posters read back what they have written

And as predicted the OP has disappeared. She started a thread to have a go at Meghan and walked off. And what a coincidence it's a NCer with one solitary post

Lol what are you on about "hovel to live in"
He was already living in that so called hovel when they started dating. C&W lived there previously with baby george. It's these sort of "grievances" that get publics backs up

Can't label people narcissist without actually knowing them, but I find both her and H odd.
She reminds me of a relative that always feels wronged and hard done by, and has great admiration for herself

I think Megan's idea of being a princess came from Disney movies and the hallmark channel. She thought you get to wear pretty dresses, go to balls, be famous and wave at the crowds. She didn't realise it is a job with expectations, that you have to go to places you don't want to go and there is a pecking order based on rank, that there is an institution that must be fit into and the price for the money, fame and jewells is personal freedom - the ultimate 'guilded cage'. Maybe Harry didn't teach her, maybe she didn't want to learn but either way she was unprepared for the realities of being in the monarchy.