Is Meghan a narcissist?

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I keep seeing these reels and social media smears on Meghan being a narcissist and abusive partner to Harry. She certainly doesn't seem overly popular with the royal family or understood the expectations of her as a royal when she married him.

I'm by no means a royalist or a fan of Megan's. But I'm the same age as Harry so always felt I could relate a little to him. I haven't read his book or watched the netflix docs.

The main thing that doesn't sit quite right for me is they wanted a 'private life' and then done anything but. Did Megan use Harry's desire for privacy to isolate him from his family and friends?

They wouldn’t pay as well (?)

I think Harry thought he was going to have all his needs catered for by the RF. He would have had no idea of estate costs, security and staff costs etc. Meghan's big ideas combined with his stupidity have led to where they are today.

You are spot on and as we now know the negative image from those early days carries on - regardless of what they try there are raised eyes, laughter and derision fairly or even unfairly. They created that by themselves. They created the " grifter" image. Basically people don't like pretentious liars who aired it all on such a public forum.

Does the same apply to the Yorks? I think so.

Definitely - it’s probably because Harry was so close to the Yorks that he thought he understood the ‘spare’ model. You get funded by the monarch, and make all your extra money doing shady deals behind the scenes.

Whilst your significant other lives like a spendthrift billionaire & thinks bills are for the little people.

I think so too except they didn't want half in half out.

I don’t think Princess Margaret was much different either.

Sorry wrong quote.

No, they were 'in' whilst managing to fleece or take backhanders from anyone who was in their orbit whilst being protected by the monarchy... oligarchs, gun runners, paedophile and sex trafficker, dodgy middle eastern businessmen, small companies, large companies, unpaid bills everywhere. And more.

I'm sure much of that is true but it doesn't stop Meghan being a narc or having narc tendencies.

Managing money not a strength NB: Queen Mother.

Thing was before social media & in more ‘cap doffing’ days they could get away with murder. Now, not so much. If Lownie’s book correct Sarah’s extravagance is/was off the scale & who knew? Why Will knows he has to be seen to make changes.

Id say so yes. And as someone else said Princess Margaret also. QM was probably slightly different as she was born in a different era and a Queen consort. But there is a level of arrogance running through I think.

I was querying your post about Andrew & Sarah not wanting half in half out. They didn't need to! They did all their shady dealings right under QE2's nose and she enabled the two of them!

I don't think you know that for a fact.

Well she turned a blind eye, either by refusing to be briefed on what they were getting up to, or knowing it and ignoring it.

Umm... well yes I feel I do. Everywhere it says that Andrew's dealings were brought to the attention of QE2 but she chose to ignore them.

And just say she wasn't informed directly... anyone would be able to observe what he was up to. He frequently went against Intelligence and security advice, staying places where he should not be, like Epstein's mansion. His house sale.. a money laundering exercise by a dodgy middle eastern man with a backhander for Andrew. Deals with Kazakstan .. there is plenty to be aware of, and unless the advisors were not doing their jobs properly, it is obvious she chose to ignore.

She wasn’t accepting of Sarah though.

Was she not? I think she must've been, given Sarah being an ex wife of her son for decades had been living on a Royal Estate for about 15 years before QE2 popped off.
That sounds pretty accepting to me!

And QE2 actually bailed her out more than once, given her debts were out of control.

On this question of the Monarch having a younger son. How much control does the Monarch actually have over what they get up to?

If QE2 was told about A's dodgy deals, what remedies do we think she could have applied to stop him? Promised him money to behave? ( But that would have required him and his wife to understand what behaviour was OK, and what was not.)

Threatened him with - what? Taking his titles away? Which ones, the Prince one? That would have resulted in a different, unprecedented set of problems for the RF and its image. As we're seeing with H.

His sense of arrogance, entitlement - the rot set in early so an parenting fault? He was allowed, IMO, to get away with far too much. Reading the Lownie book he sounds remarkably like Harry down to the silly pranks, arrogance & lack of intellectual curiosity.

The benign neglect even abuse, a friend’s father, according to Lownie, took him off to relieve him of his virginity at 11 with sex workers. According to Lownie this trauma may have led to sex addiction.

I’m not sure although unlike Harry I don’t think Andrew would have wanted to leave the Royal nest so threatening him with exile and being iced out of all the fancy royal stuff might have worked with Andrew.

But I do think that’s why Harry was so shocked when his father stopped his allowance from the Duchy of Cornwall when they left because the Queen never stopped supporting Andrew from the Duchy of Lancaster.

Charles however had fairly open public reporting of his Duchy of Cornwall accounts and he knew it would look terrible to continue funding ‘the household and office of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex’ to the tune of 2-3 million every year if they weren’t doing any work for the country and were potentially making millions overseas.

As you say you " feel" this must be the case..

And a lot of reporting that this is the case.

I think it is too easy to conflate Andrew and Sarah and Harry and Meghan . I think both have behaved badly ( and guess who I think is the worst ) but I am not sure there is a direct comparison to be easily drawn. A sense of entitlement and thinking being born a prince or marrying into it & so you have hit the jackpot -I think pertains to both. But I think H & A and their wives can be criticised but not always blanket criticism.