Is Meghan a narcissist?

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I keep seeing these reels and social media smears on Meghan being a narcissist and abusive partner to Harry. She certainly doesn't seem overly popular with the royal family or understood the expectations of her as a royal when she married him.

I'm by no means a royalist or a fan of Megan's. But I'm the same age as Harry so always felt I could relate a little to him. I haven't read his book or watched the netflix docs.

The main thing that doesn't sit quite right for me is they wanted a 'private life' and then done anything but. Did Megan use Harry's desire for privacy to isolate him from his family and friends?

The brand never apologised or took responsibility, and the buck stops with the brand. It’s particularly egregious that they (brand and designer) tried to blame the photographer, who merely photographed the set he was given. So yes, my moral compass says to continue to see the brand as tarnished. If your moral compass says otherwise, that’s up to you.

I agree.

I think that’s an unusual take. I think it’s blindingly clear Megan wants fame and fortune, to socialise and be seen with a listers and power players. She seldom gets that opportunity now, and is resorting to things like turning up at a fashion show to meet that need, and let’s face it she milked it, she didn’t need to be photographed coming out as she was, most celebs weren’t, and unlike say the beckhams she looked like she was lapping up th4 attention,

I think her best life is far from this, she wants to be with the movers and shakers, be one of them, on everyone’s invite list, to have multiple streaming platforms pay a small fortune for her name, and her and Harry to be lauded wher ever they go.

I don’t think it’s worked out how she wants at all and I’m really surprised anyone can look at their position, their contentious reputation, their negative publicity,n their failed deals and think wow she’s living her best life.

If your friend got a job as a creative director for a fashion brand and was launching a coercion at a fashion show and invited you...are you telling me you would aay no sorry im not going to be there to support you.

She wa invited.. she didnt just turn up ffs at least get your facts right.

Since when has supporting a friend in their new venture been a problem?

@TheRealGoose - fair point. I suppose what I am saying she has got fame beyond her wildest dreams and she is living something of a life where she is photographed - gets on a front row with Anna Wintour, given awards etc . Now I agree , she isn't really up there with the movers and shakers , but I think in her way she is living an ersatz version of it. Which I suspect pre Harry she could not have done. How she feels about the streaming failures I don't know. I think only time will tell how the invitations and the money will play out. But she's still being invited to events and awards. We'll see how long it lasts. I do agree though I think she thought she might be more influential than she is - but she's making the most it seems to me of where she has landed. Whether she's doing it particularly well or not , different matter. But she's making the most of it .

You’ve likely nailed it & I’ve thought similarly.

However, it’s a journey & don’t underestimate her perhaps or her ruthless ambition.

Or, more simply, she’s happy at home & this is her having fun, scratching a shallow itch & equivalent of an ordinary Mums ‘out out’?

What does “launching a coercion” mean?

Do you understand that that child SA ad campaign would have been approved far and above the level of creative director at Balenciaga? Like I said, the brand -management- above and beyond the creative director from time to time - supported something objectively heinous. And that informs us of the culture of the place and the lines they don’t mind crossing to sell an ugly handbag.

If my friend wanted to go and work for them, that would be their decision, I don’t need to (and would not) support him or her in that decision or go along to their workplace.

how far above would it have been approved?

I just searched and found that,

“Kering S.A. (French: [kɛːʁiŋ]) is a French multinational holding company specializing in luxury goods, headquartered in Paris. It owns the brands Gucci, Yves Saint Laurent, Balenciaga, Bottega Veneta, Creed, Maui Jim, and Alexander McQueen, among others.”

So do we boycott all of them? And do we criticise everyone that wears their clothes, (handbags perfumes sunglases) and goes to their fashion shows?

Or do we just save that for Meghan Markle? I mean Anna Wintour was front and centre. I haven’t seen anyone condemn her for being there.

The advertising campaign was a disgrace.

Anna Wintour is not on my list of inspirational women.

The people in the other brands are not positioning themselves as protectors of children, as far as I know. They also aren't doing similar ads.

I saw the video of her arrival in her Papal cape! What's with the weird walk and facial expression? She clearly remains high on her own fumes 🤣. She's practised that walk in front of a mirror lol.

My point was why are people choosing to go after Meghan Markle only for attending the Balenciaga show?

I know the answer. And it’s got nothing to do with Meghan’s work with charities that support children.

She probably did practice in front of a mirror.

Her entrance was deliberate - it was planned that way, and not just by Meghan only.

I don’t see that as a negative. It’s smart, given the attention she receives from trad media and social media.

It’s not the charity work, it’s the hypocrisy of it. If you are holier than thou in your approach, people notice when you behave hypocritically. Celeb world is full of hypocrites but most people either hide it better, or have a persona that’s more likeable. Sanctimony doesn’t make people warm to you.

I don’t like Balenciaga but I don’t think Meghan should be overly criticised for this- let’s face it the fashion world is full of truly awful people - imo it simply underlines that she doesn’t actually give a toss about children’s online safety, the regime behind the Dorchester, etc etc because all she actually cares about is Meghan feeling superior in the moment.

Yep. Wouldn’t you have practiced??

Well done for deciphering that. It was obviously far too complicated for me.

Walking from a hotel to a car and from a car to a venue?! No, I can do that without having to practise, even in heels.

I suppose I might have done if I wanted to completely change the way I walk or make some kind of statement with it, but I don’t understand why someone would do that or what Meghan thinks that statement is. She just looks mad to me, or like she has some kind of injury.

If Kering exercises creative control and gives the ultimate nod to child SA image ad campaigns then yes, boycott away. And yes, if you want to question why people still buy their brands, that’s your right to do so. The stars who endorse them make themselves public figures and are dependent on the public’s good will and buying into their personal brand images to make money. So why shouldn’t the public have an opinion? This thread happens to be about Markle which is why we I am focussing on her hypocrisy. And unlike many stars, she has a considerable political platform that she preaches from too, particularly of late with regard to child safety. So yes, it’s not some great mystery why her words and actions are scrutinised.

Putting your feet up on seats - with outdoor shoes on - is a big no no from me.

They didnt, why don't you actually present the facts or go find out instead of assuming. The creative director at the time took full responsibility there is no way anyone higher than that would of been signing off on a shoot its vision and the props used in it ...that is why you have the role of a creative director.

That creative director has left. If you want to continue to boycott a brand because you feel its forever tarnished fine thats your choice. Brands can recover though over time ans since then Balenciaga havent had anything controversial happen to continually makes you want to boycott the brand.

With your thinking then you do feel that the whole royal family brand is now damaged after the recent news about links to Epstein?
Are you boycotting them all after the revelations of Andrew and Fergie and their going ons with Epstein? I haven't seem you making such strong comments about that elsewhere on this RF board...why is that?

I have to admit that I probably would have.
But then, walking to my car in front of press cameras would be a completely new experience for me. Meghan has had that experience many, many times.
And I'd have tried to practice until it didn't look like I was still practicing in the bathroom mirror on the night (admittedly, I might not have succeeded but then, nor did Meghan, imo).

I thought she had maybe had a few glasses of wine and was being extra careful in unfamiliar shoes which looked too big for her.

So do we know if she went to two different shows with the two outfits? Was the black dress also Balaeg-whotsit? Or was the black dress likely for an after party etc.

I liked the black dress . Thought the white outfit was awful .