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Is Meghan a narcissist?

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Clbs · 28/09/2025 08:20

I keep seeing these reels and social media smears on Meghan being a narcissist and abusive partner to Harry. She certainly doesn't seem overly popular with the royal family or understood the expectations of her as a royal when she married him.

I'm by no means a royalist or a fan of Megan's. But I'm the same age as Harry so always felt I could relate a little to him. I haven't read his book or watched the netflix docs.

The main thing that doesn't sit quite right for me is they wanted a 'private life' and then done anything but. Did Megan use Harry's desire for privacy to isolate him from his family and friends?

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TooTooMuchEverything · 02/10/2025 01:21

Serenster · 01/10/2025 06:38

I always find it intriguing how many mental gymnastics Meghan’s supporters are willing to go through each and every time they face the possibility that it looks like Meghan herself may have done something that justifies those in her orbit having a poor opinion of her. Over and over again, it simply can’t be the simplest and most obvious answer because….that would lead to an uncomfortable truth?

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That you choose to use a blind as evidence of ill behavior on Meghan’s part is something I find astonishing.

TooTooMuchEverything · 02/10/2025 02:01

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My2cents1975 · 02/10/2025 06:18

It will be very interesting to see the reverse ferret when M shows the kids' faces and starts openly monetising them as a momager.

I suspect that, as ever, some poster names will change and will repeat whatever new co-ordinated narrative is.

CurlewKate · 02/10/2025 06:34

All royal (and royal adjacent) children are, to a greater or lesser degree part of the PR exercise. It’s ridiculous to pretend otherwise.

jumpingthehighjump · 02/10/2025 06:42

My2cents1975 · 02/10/2025 06:18

It will be very interesting to see the reverse ferret when M shows the kids' faces and starts openly monetising them as a momager.

I suspect that, as ever, some poster names will change and will repeat whatever new co-ordinated narrative is.

Your post tells me you are desperate for Meghan to show her children's faces so you can do a big I Told You So! Might never happen!

There's been lots of posts on here saying this is what she will be doing (never heard the word momager, that's a new one on me!)
William and Kate's children have to be visible with videos and pictures to please the Royalists so they can oooh and ahhh, it's just PR.

Meghan and Harry haven't done so yet... apart from the back of their heads and distant shots.

ozarina · 02/10/2025 07:28

I see Harry had to mention Archie in the post he made about the death of Jane Goodall. He has to make every moment about himself doesn't he? He really is pathetic.

Serenster · 02/10/2025 07:30

TooTooMuchEverything · 02/10/2025 01:21

That you choose to use a blind as evidence of ill behavior on Meghan’s part is something I find astonishing.

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Once it was confirmed to relate to Meghan and Kate by Omid Scobie in Finding Freedom (whom Meghan briefed directly for the book, remember, though she was willing to lie to the court to prevent us knowing that) it’s no longer a blind. The subjects were confirmed and the first person to publish it becomes very interesting.

Outig · 02/10/2025 07:33

Serenster · 01/10/2025 14:30

This is what Meghan wrote on the Tig in 2016, about a week before her relationship with Harry was made public (What a coincidence! Just before the world finds out who she is she’s out there burnishing her philanthropic credentials…) . I think the pendulum has swung quite a bit further to the excess side now she’s picked the Hollywood life than she she wanted to suggest at that stage, and she has of course recently said that she is actively choosing not to speak on politics:

It was just last year that I was in the van heading back from Gihembe refugee camp in Rwanda. I was in the country as an advocate for UN Women…. Driving back on the dusty roads that day, now back on the grid of tech and Hollywood, I received an email from my managers with a request for me to attend the BAFTAs. I had never been and had always romanticized the idea of it – and per the email, a high end jewelry company was going to fly me in, get me dolled up in the fanciest of gowns, and I would travel straight from Kigali to Heathrow, to the makeup chair, and immediately onto the red carpet.

My brain, heart, spirit couldn’t shift gears that quickly – from the purpose-driven work I had been doing all week in Rwanda, to the glitz and glamour of an award show – plus the pomp and circumstance that comes with it. “No,” my heart said. And it wasn’t a soft whisper to myself; it was a lion’s roar. … My gut said, “No.” While my two worlds can coexist, I’ve learned that for me, being able to keep a foot in both is a delicate balance – because while they are not mutually exclusive, guiding my heart though the swinging pendulum from excess to lack of access is sometimes challenging.

(I also massively side-eye the BAFTAs bit. Why would any UK-based jewellery company offer a then little-known American tv actress the chance to be their ambassador at an event celebrating the UK film industry?)

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That is so amusing to read now in hindsight, the embellishment lies is off the scale, she was an actress on a Canadian cable show, there was no Hollywood.

I also doubt there was any BAFTA invite, and she clearly, very quickly, forgot about her excess and others lack of access when she moaned that no one asked her how she was, in poverty stricken S.Africa townships.

I understand why she is unliked by so many, she is so egocentric and smug, she can’t camouflage how contrived she is, no matter how hard she tries,

Spectre8 · 02/10/2025 07:47

Clbs · 30/09/2025 22:20

Thank you for responses to this...I hadn't lit a flame and run 😅 I just needed some time to absorb. I'm sorry to have drawn out so many strong feelings.

I apologise for the term 'narcissist', I was reiterating the SM slur. It is true only a clinician can diagnose someone with NPD but as I understand it, people are rarely actually diagnosed due to lack of insight and the stigma attached to it. Rather it is better to talk about narcissistic personality styles or traits. I also apologise for posting in 'chat', I'm new to MN so didn't realise there is a whole RF area.

You could say 'who cares' but I do because I'm interested in the psychology of people, what motivates them and how appearances can be deceptive. I'm interested in deception, patterns and cycles of abuse. How people use their children as weapons. I think it's helpful to observe people in life, and if that includes those in the spotlight then so be it. It's important to be able to recognise and protect against abuse in relationships. I try to imagine how I might feel if I was the mother in law of someone like Meghan, how I might feel about some of their decision making. She will have the upper hand if their relationship breaks down.

It strikes me that a good relationship is one where two people quietly bring eachother up, and their community up, in the face of adversity rather than get themselves in a desperate fluster and isolate themselves. Harry imo always looks so troubled and awkward, granted he is a grown man, but I think naive and lost. I know the media has the ability to crush who they want, but I can't help feeling if they'd kept quiet about their issues with RF (perceived or otherwise) they would have come out cleaner and happier in the long run.

There is of course the culture clash with America and a micro culture of stoicism, perhaps even a system of silence from FR. The RF (or institution) seem to have taken the 'less is more' approach to responding to Harry and Meghan with near close silence which is pretty powerful.

Abuse in relationships...children as weapons

And what proof have you got she is abusive? Why arent you then reporting her abuse to the appropriate authorities of her abuse with all your proof if you have it.

TheGreatWesternShrew · 02/10/2025 07:48

I don’t care. I just wish everyone would shut up about her. She’s a Hollywood actress and a mum who now interviews people and makes jam. So why do we pay so much attention to her

NormaMajors1992coat · 02/10/2025 07:50

ozarina · 02/10/2025 07:28

I see Harry had to mention Archie in the post he made about the death of Jane Goodall. He has to make every moment about himself doesn't he? He really is pathetic.

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I thought that - of all the things there are to say about Jane Goodall, one of the world’s great scientists / anthropologists / conservationists, with truly global significance and many, many achievements, I’m not sure how many people would have come up with “she held our son”.

Outig · 02/10/2025 08:19

Who else would turn a tribute into a boast about a personal connection. At least they had the decency not to include a photo of said encounter with Archie.

NormaMajors1992coat · 02/10/2025 08:32

Everything’s an opportunity isn’t it - oh Jane Goodall has died - oh it’s Remembrance Day - oh the king has cancer - oh California is on fire - oh journalists spied on my brother’s birthday party - oh some children have been killed in a school shooting - oh there’s a war in Ukraine. Now - how can this be used to our advantage?

MrsFinkelstein · 02/10/2025 11:22

(I also massively side-eye the BAFTAs bit. Why would any UK-based jewellery company offer a then little-known American tv actress the chance to be their ambassador at an event celebrating the UK film industry?)

And there is no way that an ambitious actress/humanitarian etc etc who wanted to raise her profile (and who had never been invited to any significant events before (ie Emmy's, Oscar's, SAG) would have turned down a chance to appear at the BAFTAs. Meghan was furious with her first husband that he went to the Oscar's without her (only he was invited, he didn't get a plus 1). She turned down the BAFTAs? Please.

Teeteringpiles555 · 02/10/2025 12:28

HedwigIsMySpiritAnimal · 28/09/2025 08:35

Narcissist is one of the most incorrectly overused words in the English language. It’s a clinical diagnosis not just a word to throw at people of whose behaviour you don’t like or don’t approve.

I have never understood the abuse of MM while at the same time people cravenly support our royals many of whom have behaved pretty bloody appallingly in the past - Charles being the prime example of this.

Hear hear to this!

Outig · 02/10/2025 13:18

ozarina · 02/10/2025 07:28

I see Harry had to mention Archie in the post he made about the death of Jane Goodall. He has to make every moment about himself doesn't he? He really is pathetic.

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What Jane Goodall,said about them a few years ago.

"There's all this stuff in the press about being best friends, which is absolutely stupid," Goodall, 86, tells PEOPLE.

"We're not best friends," she says. "I've only met them three times. It's so silly."

Maybe they have met up since then, but definitely not the friends they claimed to be in their comments about her death.

Trinner · 02/10/2025 13:42

Outig · 02/10/2025 13:18

What Jane Goodall,said about them a few years ago.

"There's all this stuff in the press about being best friends, which is absolutely stupid," Goodall, 86, tells PEOPLE.

"We're not best friends," she says. "I've only met them three times. It's so silly."

Maybe they have met up since then, but definitely not the friends they claimed to be in their comments about her death.

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This is comedy gold.

They are so self absorbed that they flip this woman’s unprecedented magnificent lifelong achievements to associate themselves in her brilliance.

Opportunist. Grandiose. Delusional. Cringe.

As Ever.

Surely the consummate professional Meredith Maines didn’t sign off on this?

bluegreygreen · 02/10/2025 16:46

Don't know anything about how high-flying PR jobs work - will this one be bad for Meredith Maines' career, or OK as long as she can talk about what she's learnt?

KnickerlessParsons · 02/10/2025 18:52

My2cents1975 · 02/10/2025 06:18

It will be very interesting to see the reverse ferret when M shows the kids' faces and starts openly monetising them as a momager.

I suspect that, as ever, some poster names will change and will repeat whatever new co-ordinated narrative is.

Did no one in Disneyland take a photo of the kids the day they went there?

I do wonder how they manage to maintain their no photos thing when the kids must be out and about with them all the time. I imagine any photo showing the kids’ faces would sell for £££!

YourTruthorMine · 02/10/2025 19:39

I think it's great that people are discussing narcissism more openly. Those who police others discussing it (red flag). Most of them are undiagnosed, and yet there they are, in the workplace & most other establishments quietly bringing others down . I think she's a narcissist based on patterns of her behaviour, facial expressions, tone of voice, not to mention no contact with almost every single member of her family.

BasiliskStare · 02/10/2025 20:08

CurlewKate · 29/09/2025 03:37

No. But you probably have to have met somebody to diagnose a significant psychological pathology. Oh, and having a having a medical qualification would help too….

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Just by the by , I once went to my GP . She had the most fabulous mug from which she was having her coffee . It read on the front "You've got Google - I've got a medical degree" It made me laugh.

ozarina · 02/10/2025 20:57

YourTruthorMine · 02/10/2025 19:39

I think it's great that people are discussing narcissism more openly. Those who police others discussing it (red flag). Most of them are undiagnosed, and yet there they are, in the workplace & most other establishments quietly bringing others down . I think she's a narcissist based on patterns of her behaviour, facial expressions, tone of voice, not to mention no contact with almost every single member of her family.

I don't think anyone here is trying to make a clinical diagnosis ( that's just ridiculous ) but as you say we know about the traits, we see these people and unfortunately are sometimes their victims.

CurlewKate · 02/10/2025 21:23

YourTruthorMine · 02/10/2025 19:39

I think it's great that people are discussing narcissism more openly. Those who police others discussing it (red flag). Most of them are undiagnosed, and yet there they are, in the workplace & most other establishments quietly bringing others down . I think she's a narcissist based on patterns of her behaviour, facial expressions, tone of voice, not to mention no contact with almost every single member of her family.

Just goes to show-we don’t need experts….just somebody prepared to diagnose on facial expression. So much cheaper than medical school.

jumpingthehighjump · 02/10/2025 21:26

CurlewKate · 02/10/2025 21:23

Just goes to show-we don’t need experts….just somebody prepared to diagnose on facial expression. So much cheaper than medical school.

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Well exactly! Who'd have known!

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