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Fergie Epstein email

743 replies

elprup · 21/09/2025 08:48

Yet more damaging revelations for the Yorks. How did the Daily Mail manage to get hold of the email I wonder?

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15118055/Fergie-Epstein-lies-exposed-bombshell-email-Andrew.html

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Bladderpool · 23/09/2025 19:55

Her level of excessive spending is mind boggling. I don’t understand where the money is going when they seem to avoid actually paying so many people? Makes you wonder if they’re being blackmailed.

CathyorClaire · 23/09/2025 20:03

Letmeoutodhere · 23/09/2025 13:47

Why does no one hold the Royals accountable for their spending? Shouldn’t the govt be scrutinising how they spend taxpayers money? It’s disgraceful.

I agree entirely.

They used to be held to a set budget (Civil List) which was debated however half-heartedly at set intervals in Parliament.

It was replaced by the golden ratcheted percentage based Sovereign Grant conveniently allowing for far less debate and naturally they jumped at it.

If W becomes the modernising figure we're led to believe he plans to be (after C3's abject failure to deliver the same) maybe he'll consider a voluntary return to a fixed sum alongside detailed accounts but from what we've seen so far I'm not holding my breath.

justasking111 · 23/09/2025 20:06

Didn't they get in a mess with a ski chalet?

CathyorClaire · 23/09/2025 20:12

Mama and Papa Middleton’s company went bust and was sold on for a pittance.
Did the “little people” aka small suppliers ever get paid ?
Or HMRC ?

It's structure was inexplicably changed from the partnership (unlimited liability for debts) it had been for decades to a private limited company (limited liability for debts) a few years before it went under.

All above board, standard and nothing to see as has been pointed out every time I've referred to it.

Still stinks.

CathyorClaire · 23/09/2025 20:15

justasking111 · 23/09/2025 20:06

Didn't they get in a mess with a ski chalet?

They did.

Consistently late with repayment tranches until the previous owner had to threaten to sue.

She finally settled for a few million less than the agreement believing them to be penniless then saw Fergie cough £4m or so for a London mews...

CathyorClaire · 23/09/2025 20:26

The charities themselves, of course, get a royal patron. But how worthy is that in reality?

Some while back royal patronages were shown to have little to no effect on the level of donations 'their' charities receive and 74% of charities with a royal patron hadn't seen said patron darken the door in two years.

Could all of course be a bit out of date now W is shedding patronages apace in favour of what is touted as 'big projects'

Letmeoutodhere · 23/09/2025 20:28

Pepperlee · 23/09/2025 16:23

This.

Which people specifically?

padronpepper · 23/09/2025 20:29

Did Beatrice and Eugenice not buy the London flat for her? Though where they got the money must be up for debate.

padronpepper · 23/09/2025 20:29

Comments have now been disabled on her instagram profile. She should really just take it down now.

padronpepper · 23/09/2025 20:30

I will say this - I hope she is being cared for and supported and minded by her family. I can only imagine her state of mind at this moment in time.

BadDinner · 23/09/2025 20:33

Futurehappiness · 23/09/2025 19:18

Some of the Royals are much more actively involved with 'their' charities (and arguably provide more benefit to them) than others. But overall I think the royals' charity 'work' is just an empty PR exercise. We now know that Charles & William directly profit through rents from cash-strapped charities as well as public services, to the tune of millions.

I beg your pardon??

KCIII and William collect charity rents?

I'm totally out of the loop! Some of the things I'm reading on these threads are extremely eye-brow raising and I really do not need my forehead wrinkles to be etched any deeper, but it's like😲

jumpingthehighjump · 23/09/2025 20:34

padronpepper · 23/09/2025 20:30

I will say this - I hope she is being cared for and supported and minded by her family. I can only imagine her state of mind at this moment in time.

Sarah?

I may sound mean but I have absolutely no sympathy whatsoever. You reap what you sow.
She has taken us for fools for decades. Harsh I know.

CathyorClaire · 23/09/2025 20:34

padronpepper · 23/09/2025 20:29

Did Beatrice and Eugenice not buy the London flat for her? Though where they got the money must be up for debate.

It's supposed to be a nest egg for them IIRC but again v. murky as to who precisely stumped up the cash.

IIRC the theory is they're on the deeds to prevent her flogging it on her own account.

Letmeoutodhere · 23/09/2025 20:36

BadDinner · 23/09/2025 20:33

I beg your pardon??

KCIII and William collect charity rents?

I'm totally out of the loop! Some of the things I'm reading on these threads are extremely eye-brow raising and I really do not need my forehead wrinkles to be etched any deeper, but it's like😲

Edited

There was a recent programme on it on TV. Very illuminating.

daisychain01 · 23/09/2025 20:36

padronpepper · 23/09/2025 20:30

I will say this - I hope she is being cared for and supported and minded by her family. I can only imagine her state of mind at this moment in time.

I'd save your thoughts for all the victims whose lives have been decimated by the perverted trash she was willing to take hand-outs from. she has spent her entire life grifting off anyone willing to bale her out because she's financially incontinent.

She's a absolute abomination.

Bladderpool · 23/09/2025 20:37

padronpepper · 23/09/2025 20:30

I will say this - I hope she is being cared for and supported and minded by her family. I can only imagine her state of mind at this moment in time.

I don’t wish her any harm but I don’t think she’s deserving of much consideration from anyone other than her immediate family. According to the Lownie book, despite her declarations of being an amazing mother, there was very little evidence that she had a great relationship with her children, so much of her focus was on chasing men and money.

CathyorClaire · 23/09/2025 20:43

BadDinner · 23/09/2025 20:33

I beg your pardon??

KCIII and William collect charity rents?

I'm totally out of the loop! Some of the things I'm reading on these threads are extremely eye-brow raising and I really do not need my forehead wrinkles to be etched any deeper, but it's like😲

Edited

C3 and W's Duchies were shown to be skimming charities, the NHS, the government and their own armed forces for rental payments in Dispatches/ Sunday Times reports some ten months ago.

It's all OK though. Phew. The poor things have had their arms twisted by legal requirements imposed on the Duchies.

Letmeoutodhere · 23/09/2025 20:47

Bladderpool · 23/09/2025 20:37

I don’t wish her any harm but I don’t think she’s deserving of much consideration from anyone other than her immediate family. According to the Lownie book, despite her declarations of being an amazing mother, there was very little evidence that she had a great relationship with her children, so much of her focus was on chasing men and money.

What sort of mother cavorts with her lover with two young children looking on?

choccytime · 23/09/2025 20:48

Just read the Andrew Lownie book , they re both disgusting parasites . And I think the daughters are strange . There s an interesting theory in the book about Epstein s death ...

Butteredtoast55 · 23/09/2025 20:50

choccytime · 23/09/2025 20:48

Just read the Andrew Lownie book , they re both disgusting parasites . And I think the daughters are strange . There s an interesting theory in the book about Epstein s death ...

Which is? Do please share, @choccytime so I don't have to read it!

Lalgarh · 23/09/2025 20:52

I'm wondering if the producers of I'm A Celebrity Get Me Out of Here are sensing someone desperate enough to grasp at salvation for an upfront cash payment by eating a Kangaroo 🍩

choccytime · 23/09/2025 20:54

Apparently he was murdered , both security guards outside his cell fell asleep at the same time and the security camera was switched off the post mortem showed injuries not consistent with hanging but strangulation . He was associated with some very famous and powerful men

Lalgarh · 23/09/2025 21:04

Dammit I'm going to have to read a sample

Thedom · 23/09/2025 21:30

I wonder did Epstein ever reply to her grovelling email ?