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The royal family

Harry's dirty laundry - thread 2

159 replies

Baital · 20/09/2025 05:41

I hope it's OK to start a new thread after the last one filled up

OP posts:
OrangeAxolotyl · 21/09/2025 19:52

So duplicitous.

Abra1t · 21/09/2025 19:54

RecoIIectionsMayVary · 21/09/2025 11:41

I honestly don't think the DM care about anything other than clicks.

The other issue is the fact the people that H&M have upset are the Royalist - these are the people that line the streets, go to openings which the RF are attending. It has taken decades for Camilllla to be accepted, and that was by getting on with everything quietly.

But mainly, if those articles are vaguely true in the DM, then I am very concerned that the King hasn't got long - H has to achieve complete reconciliation before W becomes King.

They irritate me and I don’t do any of those things.

DelightedDelicious · 21/09/2025 20:04

I wonder if in H&M’s illogical heads they believe they can legitimately achieve HIHO by PH doing all the HI royal stuff and MM doing all the HO commercial stuff ?

They separated their business interests I believe a while back and ‘operation get PH back in from the cold’ has also been touted for some time.

I actually think that these numbskulls think this would be viable.

Grandiose. Delusional.

MrsLeonFarrell · 21/09/2025 20:16

Ohpleeeease · 21/09/2025 16:31

I listened to the episode of When It Hits The Fan which covered Harry’s PR mission. What surprised me as that they were so convinced that most people want to see Harry and Charles reconciled. I don’t get that feeling at all. Most people probably couldn’t care less. A few sentimental souls would like to see it happen. Rather more are sceptical about his motives.

One thing I did agree with, Harry is winning on PR. But what a sad world we live in when it’s PR and not principles that win the day.

I didn't agree with the one who said that Harry was winning on PR. Harry came for 4 days. He got nice articles for those days but that's it. Subsequently he has given several interviews and leaked to the media pushing his agenda. The 4 days could have been a beginning, and I suspect the podcast was made during that time when it seemed this were changing, but instead Harry just can't help himself and I don't think in the long term those 4 days will have been seen to change anything.

MrsLeonFarrell · 21/09/2025 20:22

Going by The Mail article Harry wants to come here for 4 days about 4 times a year. That's 16 days of service, how have we coped without him?

OrangeAxolotyl · 21/09/2025 20:24

MrsLeonFarrell · 21/09/2025 20:22

Going by The Mail article Harry wants to come here for 4 days about 4 times a year. That's 16 days of service, how have we coped without him?

That man just lives to give! He's wise to pace himself. He has complained before about being asked to do stuff even when he was "tired".

MrsFinkelstein · 21/09/2025 20:47

BigWillyLittleTodger · 21/09/2025 18:57

Looks like Harry’s been given the proverbial slap down 😂

Referring to the briefings, however, a royal insider told the Daily Mail: 'Whoever is behind them seems to have mistaken a brief tea and a slice of cake for the Treaty of Versailles.'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/royals/article-15119981/Prince-Harry-return-working-royal-William.html

Edited

And I would trust Rebecca English's sources and reporting far more than Bryony Gordon's or Charlotte Griffith's.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 21/09/2025 21:33

MrsFinkelstein · 21/09/2025 20:47

And I would trust Rebecca English's sources and reporting far more than Bryony Gordon's or Charlotte Griffith's.

Yes Rebecca English seems to be very reliable, it will be interesting to see what she has to say on the DM royal channel.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 21/09/2025 21:35

Briony Gordon and Charlotte Griffiths are just Harry’s mouthpieces, CG looks a bit of a fool now after that slap down.

Ohpleeeease · 21/09/2025 23:05

MrsLeonFarrell · 21/09/2025 20:16

I didn't agree with the one who said that Harry was winning on PR. Harry came for 4 days. He got nice articles for those days but that's it. Subsequently he has given several interviews and leaked to the media pushing his agenda. The 4 days could have been a beginning, and I suspect the podcast was made during that time when it seemed this were changing, but instead Harry just can't help himself and I don't think in the long term those 4 days will have been seen to change anything.

Things certainly change over a few days don’t they!

ozarina · 22/09/2025 01:04

Treeleaf11 · 21/09/2025 19:48

For the Telegraph article
The source is reported to have added pointedly: “<a class="break-all" href="https://archive.li/o/D3Tcb/www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2025/08/28/prince-harry-to-visit-uk-for-first-time-since-court-defeat/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Harry’s visit to the UK was not about trying to show up or compete with his brother – in fact, the opposite.
“It was to remind William that Harry can be there to take some of the load off, given some of the criticism William has received for carrying out a lower number of engagements than his father.”

Wow what a nasty piece of work Harry is. Making out he is the concerned brother whilst criticising William in the same sentence.

snake GIF

He is a snake.

TheAutumnalCrow · 22/09/2025 02:42

Abra1t · 21/09/2025 19:54

They irritate me and I don’t do any of those things.

Same. I’m a non-Royalist mild-mannered Republican and I can’t abide Harry. But he’s untrustworthy, insufferable and full of unjustified self-importance, and entangled somehow with the dissolute Yorks.

Meghan I just find somewhat risible and transparent. Andrew and Ferguson are vile, and don’t get me started on the cover-ups. Charles is frustrating as hell.

Letmeoutodhere · 22/09/2025 07:50

OrangeAxolotyl · 21/09/2025 20:24

That man just lives to give! He's wise to pace himself. He has complained before about being asked to do stuff even when he was "tired".

You would never have believed he was in Afghanistan . ‘I’m tired sir, let the others do it today’.

My2cents1975 · 22/09/2025 08:25

IMHO, some people were carried away by the latest PR flurry. If one takes a step back and looks at the long-term trend of commercial failure after commercial failure...it is quite clear H&M have neither the front office talent nor the back office competence to succeed in the highly competitive Hollywood industry.

So they want to relitigate HIHO and preach reconciliation without accountability...as H himself informed us via the Guardian...he has no regrets. The complete foolishness of the Ukraine visit against the advice of the UK government was typical H and underlined his unsuitability for any return to a diplomatic role as a working royal representing the Head of State.

Moreover, the UK government has far bigger issues on their plate...the key issues being whether NATO is effectively in the opening phases of war with Russia...underwater cables being snapped in the Baltic, drones over Poland, fighter jets over Estonia and cyberattacks on airport software across UK/Europe.

To quote Rick from Casablanca, H's problems "don't amount to a hill of beans in this crazy world."

OrangeAxolotyl · 22/09/2025 10:11

Letmeoutodhere · 22/09/2025 07:50

You would never have believed he was in Afghanistan . ‘I’m tired sir, let the others do it today’.

It seems extraordinary, doesn't it?

Needspaceforlego · 22/09/2025 10:19

ThePoshUns · 22/09/2025 10:09

Do we think that means H has asked again about the part-timer thing.
Really meaning all the 'glam' roles that they can then market themselves as Royals and make money from that link.

Does H think C buttons up the back? Does he really think the candle 🕯 and Auntie Ann's feathers 🪶 were just a coincidence??

OrangeAxolotyl · 22/09/2025 10:20

I read that he "offered" to go to the Trump banquet, which was good of him.
I think he is trying to have some photos which show him doing stuff that's of value.

OrangeAxolotyl · 22/09/2025 10:21

Needspaceforlego · 22/09/2025 10:19

Do we think that means H has asked again about the part-timer thing.
Really meaning all the 'glam' roles that they can then market themselves as Royals and make money from that link.

Does H think C buttons up the back? Does he really think the candle 🕯 and Auntie Ann's feathers 🪶 were just a coincidence??

Yes, the high profile, glamorous, dressing up, headline stuff. Risible.

DelightedDelicious · 22/09/2025 10:48

It’s interesting that MM is not mentioned in the HIHO proposal this time around. Think she has sent PH back in to try to do the BRF stuff whilst she concentrates on capturing that ‘glow’ for her commercial enterprises.

This would also serve as as transitioning manoeuvre to get him out of her hair, off loaded back to his family and the UK if they were to separate down the line.

Currently, in her transactional mind, he brings her no kudos / $$$$.

I would think this is the last roll of the dice for him to deliver ‘what Meghan wants, Meghan gets’ - otherwise he will be like every other husband, long term partner, BFF, colleague, associate, family member etc who’s necks she has stood on to ‘elevate’ herself and have now passed their use by date - toast - a flurry of dust in her rear view mirror.

It’s quite astounding that BP / KC3 have very publicly nipped this scenario very firmly and immediately in the bud. A good thing IMHO.

Waiting with bated breath for the backlash shenanigans from Montshitoshow.

Needspaceforlego · 22/09/2025 10:56

@DelightedDelicious you could be onto something there.
But H is forgetting C is at the top he will be consulting with W and courtiers before he agrees to anything.

And while I think they might (very small might) have H back, they will not do it while he is still with M.

NormaMajors1992coat · 22/09/2025 11:03

Yes it was quite obviously another of their attempts to just behave as if something is happening, and talk about it publicly, in order to make it happen. Just like Meghan’s partnership with Dior that was embarrassingly quickly denied by Dior and then never materialised. I can’t imagine Charles will allow Meredith Maines to bounce him into anything he doesn’t want to do.

I guess Harry was hoping Charles would be persuaded by all the loud cheers up and down the country at the thought of his return and a massive surge in public demand for his presence. Unfortunately it was more like meh at best and fierce disapproval at worst.

I expect there will be some sort of “no idea where all this has come from, I’m happy where I am, this is just about repairing the personal relationship with my father and is a private matter” type denial shortly. Just like post the Dior thing - oh my gosh where on earth did that idea come from? Wide eyed innocence all round, so transparent and pathetic. They are such amateurs at this.

elessar · 22/09/2025 11:04

I’m pleased and relieved to see such a strong slap down (from BP one assumes) on the latest noise about Harry being welcomed back into the fold and the rift between Charles and William.
It now seems clear to me that all those rumours were coming straight from the Sussex camp - perhaps they were starting to feel emboldened that the more subtle hints they’d been putting out over the last few weeks weren’t getting refuted. It’s actually quite awful though if Harry is the one behind the nasty messaging about Charles and William, and would really show he’s learned absolutely nothing over the last few years.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 22/09/2025 11:10

It’s quite astounding that BP / KC3 have very publicly nipped this scenario very firmly and immediately in the bud. A good thing IMHO.
Waiting with bated breath for the backlash shenanigans from Montshitoshow.

Agreed and I am very glad the Palace have shut this down over various publications so there can be no misunderstanding, the door has been very firmly and publicly shut in Harry’s face with regards to HIHO. It will be very interesting to witness the response from H&M, now their sneaky little plan has been foiled, we will probably see some narc rage over the coming weeks, they will be desperate because their final role of the dice at monetising their royal links has been scuppered.

DelightedDelicious · 22/09/2025 11:13

Needspaceforlego · 22/09/2025 10:56

@DelightedDelicious you could be onto something there.
But H is forgetting C is at the top he will be consulting with W and courtiers before he agrees to anything.

And while I think they might (very small might) have H back, they will not do it while he is still with M.

I think even without MM in the picture they will not countenance it - as look what has happened with the Yorks. MM would absolutely be back with her snout in the trough down the line if there were $$$$ to be made.

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