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Gingersky1234 · 18/09/2025 06:49

StartupRepair · 18/09/2025 06:18

Charles is the king. His activities will be prioritised every year. He is hardly going to step back from his actual work.to allow Harry's vanity projects to shine. This is as deluded as Harry graciously offering to collaborate with the late Queen.

That may well be the case in terms of the importance of what each are doing; but we all know that that is not how the press operates!

This goes right back to the days of Diana putting her hair up for the State Opening of Parliament simply because because she had opted for an outfit with a large upright collar and getting it in the neck from QE2 because too many of the headlines were about the hairstyle and not about the contents of the late Queen’s speech.

Ditto Charles being jealous of Diana on their first tour of Australia when everyone wanted to see her and not him.

You can understand the frustrations on both sides when neither are totally in control of what is reported,

There have always been jealousies and rivalries between the various members of the RF and their respective PR teams right back to when reporting started to be more than just uniformly deferential. It’s probably related to the Harry v William spat too.

It would be normal and appropriate to devise a PR strategy around the next 24 months about how they are going to handle Charles’s reconciliation with Harry and upcoming important events so one doesn’t get overshadowed by the other.

My2cents1975 · 18/09/2025 06:53

As far as I am aware, the Guardian journalists did not kidnap H and did not threaten H with fewer sausages or breakable dog bowls.

H happily sat and shared his thoughts with the Guardian which is "British media". People are commenting on H's sharing of his thoughts.

IMHO, someone should advise H that it is not mandatory to race to the nearest microphone to share his thoughts. In fact, it is often ill-advised as many members of H's family would attest including both of his parents.

Gingersky1234 · 18/09/2025 06:56

Hummingbirdtree · 18/09/2025 06:17

He’s slagged off his father and brother, Camilla and ‘The Institution’ but never mentioned his disgusting Uncle or his antics, or his hanger on ex wife. It is strange.

It’s not that strange! Spare was about Harry’s life and the interactions he had with other members of the RF. He’s bound to be more involved with his stepmother than his uncle. By all accounts both he and William dislike Andrew and don’t have a lot to do with him.

TheAutumnalCrow · 18/09/2025 07:09

BigWillyLittleTodger · 17/09/2025 22:40

I was just coming on to say the same! Imagine spending hours of your time writing lengthy posts arguing with and insulting posters and we are the ones obsessed 😂 cognitive dissonance in action.

I haven’t even been on this board or thread for days. Hardly an obsession!

Any I agree to simply ignore the silly billy.

DipsyDee · 18/09/2025 07:11

AGroundhogYear · 18/09/2025 00:24

You're not using this tiny little corner of the internet as a microcosm of British society are you?

I agree about this Forum being a tiny corner of the internet.

If you only read this forum you would think most of the British people really dislike Meghan and Harry. But the wider internet paints a very different picture.

Does it? I don’t think so

ThePoshUns · 18/09/2025 07:15

AGroundhogYear · 18/09/2025 05:09

I’m surprised at the poll. Polls aren’t something I check.

Then I don’t understand the fascination. Why is Meghan the best money maker of the Royal Family members in regard to the British tabloids?

What does this say about the people who don’t like her but consume news and gossip about her to the extent that they do?

I can understand wanting to read and talk about Trump for example, because his decisions affect people on a global level. His decisions have incredible power over the lives of many.

I saw a clip of Ted Serandos (Netflix) talking to someone about Meghan Markle only yesterday. He said she has incredible influence and that everything she wears consistently sells out. He talked about how her scenes in the Netflix documentary were broken down by people ‘frame by frame’ in order to study and investigate her. In order for people to then talk about her. Someone else said it is forensically examined. Every tiny little detail noted and talked about.

Yet according to that poll people don’t like her? It’s seems very strange to me.

Well he would say that wouldn’t he?
Even her own line isn’t selling out and isn’t being stocked in the Netflix store.
The only reason H&M get clicks and views is because of their awful behaviour.
They are a soap opera.

TheAutumnalCrow · 18/09/2025 07:37

stillavid · 18/09/2025 05:15

With regards to Andrew whom I think the majority think is an awful person. It is interesting that Harry has never commented on him isn't it? I mean he talked about the awful stuff his father, brother, sister in law, step mother did but Andrew barely mentioned.

Yes, Harry has an opinion on everything and everyone except Andrew - with the exceptions of (a) mentioning him in Spare (obliquely) to express envy of his better security despite being accused of sexual misconduct, and (b) denying punching him.

(a) was a very weird, short passage, expressed in a smug, self serving way (as ever); and (b) is also weird because of the context - why that denial about Lownie’s book and not others? - and also because we know he did hit people in the face quite a few times, including Taylor Hawkins (which to my mind was unforgivable).

IcedPurple · 18/09/2025 07:40

AGroundhogYear · 18/09/2025 00:24

You're not using this tiny little corner of the internet as a microcosm of British society are you?

I agree about this Forum being a tiny corner of the internet.

If you only read this forum you would think most of the British people really dislike Meghan and Harry. But the wider internet paints a very different picture.

Not sure about the 'wider internet', whatever that is when it's at home.

But opinion polls suggest they are very unpopular in Britain. And the vast majority simply don't give a shit either way.

FitatFifty · 18/09/2025 07:51

They do things for attention and then we talk about it. I don’t know why this is so surprising. If they had gone to live a private life, we wouldn’t.
Id say the vast majority of people I know have not thought about them for one second in years.

I think Ted Serandos is desperately trying to sound like he hasn’t made a huge mistake with the series, he’s not going to say there wasn’t the appetite for it as they thought. Clearly she has a small devout following, and thats it. I doubt these designer clothes she wears sell out somehow.

Gingersky1234 · 18/09/2025 07:52

TheAutumnalCrow · 18/09/2025 07:37

Yes, Harry has an opinion on everything and everyone except Andrew - with the exceptions of (a) mentioning him in Spare (obliquely) to express envy of his better security despite being accused of sexual misconduct, and (b) denying punching him.

(a) was a very weird, short passage, expressed in a smug, self serving way (as ever); and (b) is also weird because of the context - why that denial about Lownie’s book and not others? - and also because we know he did hit people in the face quite a few times, including Taylor Hawkins (which to my mind was unforgivable).

Oh come on! Harry can’t win! If he had made any statement at all about Prince Andrew’s alleged sexual abuse and alleged financial corruption while trade envoy, ahead of an official response to the Lownie book from BP, or ahead of comment from King Charles, the late Queen when she was alive, or even ahead of Prince William, he would have been heavily criticised by all and sundry for betraying family secrets and stepping out of line and not knowing his place!

The more obvious questions which virtually no one is asking are:

Why didn’t the late Queen make a public statement about PA?

Why isn’t Prince Charles doing so now?

And having not left he family firm, like Harry, why isn’t William saying something in the absence of any statement from his father?

It’s utterly absurd that Harry is the only one that gets flak for this and there’s virtually zero comment about the others.

Or is it because we are so used by now to the head in sand approach from the Royals, who sit protected by their wealth and privilege, behind a wall of silence, that we expect “no comment” after one of their own has potentially broken the law over a period of ten years, allegedly profited through corrupt deals, and potentially endangered the security of the country by hob-knobbing with a spy?

Why is no one calling for an official enquiry?

Why aren’t we hearing from those who matter about whether or not there was a deliberate cover up?

Thedom · 18/09/2025 08:35

“I saw a clip of Ted Serandos (Netflix) talking to someone about Meghan Markle only yesterday. He said she has incredible influence and that everything she wears consistently sells out”

Ted Sarandos should stick to his streaming job, I read that interview too, and what is clear is, is he has no clue about influencer media. He continuously mentions the Hermes blanket as an example of her influence, similar vein as the the ‘when I was 11’ mantra. No one refers to an influencers influence from 3 years ago, influencers have to be current and up to date, citing a sell out from 3 years ago (since disproved) does not give any credence to any incredible influence.

In fact, every Bravo housewife had that blanket long before Meghan used it for staging on her show, so she is no trailblazer on the influence platform, in fact , it’s the opposite considering how everything has flopped since the Harry and Meghan series.

Ted will forever be trying to justify a deal that made him the laughing stock of the industry.

Weepixie · 18/09/2025 08:41

What does this say about the people who don’t like her but consume news and gossip about her to the extent that they do?

Apart from only reading one UK based newspaper and MN being the only social media I use, everything I know about Harry and Meghan has come from them over the last how many years they’ve been telling us who they are.

RecoIIectionsMayVary · 18/09/2025 08:53

I can understand wanting to read and talk about Trump for example, because his decisions affect people on a global level. His decisions have incredible power over the lives of many.

This gets trotted out all the time but I find it ridiculous.
MN is leisure time, so it is meant to be enjoyable and light-hearted. I don't want to talk about real life world problems.
I certainly don't want to think or talk about any type of sex trafficking - I deal enough with horrors in my work day. Not talking about it doesn't mean I support it.

This is all of their doing, I find the words from their own mouths hilarious, the lies, the inconsistency, the sheer arrogance, the brass neck - it is like a sitcom, it is engaging - but they are choosing to take the roles.

They don't expect something for nothing, they expect the world to fall at their feet.

It is a study in narcissism.

Weepixie · 18/09/2025 08:58

Gingersky1234 · 18/09/2025 07:52

Oh come on! Harry can’t win! If he had made any statement at all about Prince Andrew’s alleged sexual abuse and alleged financial corruption while trade envoy, ahead of an official response to the Lownie book from BP, or ahead of comment from King Charles, the late Queen when she was alive, or even ahead of Prince William, he would have been heavily criticised by all and sundry for betraying family secrets and stepping out of line and not knowing his place!

The more obvious questions which virtually no one is asking are:

Why didn’t the late Queen make a public statement about PA?

Why isn’t Prince Charles doing so now?

And having not left he family firm, like Harry, why isn’t William saying something in the absence of any statement from his father?

It’s utterly absurd that Harry is the only one that gets flak for this and there’s virtually zero comment about the others.

Or is it because we are so used by now to the head in sand approach from the Royals, who sit protected by their wealth and privilege, behind a wall of silence, that we expect “no comment” after one of their own has potentially broken the law over a period of ten years, allegedly profited through corrupt deals, and potentially endangered the security of the country by hob-knobbing with a spy?

Why is no one calling for an official enquiry?

Why aren’t we hearing from those who matter about whether or not there was a deliberate cover up?

We don’t need anyone to say anything - we know most of what there is to know and have done for years. Anyone with an ounce of experience when it comes to family life with a horrible headline maker like Andrew in it wouldn’t wish anything like making public statements on the family. And not that you’d even have to have experience of a headline maker in your midst. I hope the late Queen took comfort from the fact anyone with an ounce of sense or compassion in them would have known she must have been mortified and extremely upset by what had been going on.

And just to make it clear - I mean any kind of awful headline. Would be really expect our next door neighbours to comment publicly on something horrible any child of theirs had done? I think not.

DipsyDee · 18/09/2025 09:18

Gingersky1234 · 18/09/2025 07:52

Oh come on! Harry can’t win! If he had made any statement at all about Prince Andrew’s alleged sexual abuse and alleged financial corruption while trade envoy, ahead of an official response to the Lownie book from BP, or ahead of comment from King Charles, the late Queen when she was alive, or even ahead of Prince William, he would have been heavily criticised by all and sundry for betraying family secrets and stepping out of line and not knowing his place!

The more obvious questions which virtually no one is asking are:

Why didn’t the late Queen make a public statement about PA?

Why isn’t Prince Charles doing so now?

And having not left he family firm, like Harry, why isn’t William saying something in the absence of any statement from his father?

It’s utterly absurd that Harry is the only one that gets flak for this and there’s virtually zero comment about the others.

Or is it because we are so used by now to the head in sand approach from the Royals, who sit protected by their wealth and privilege, behind a wall of silence, that we expect “no comment” after one of their own has potentially broken the law over a period of ten years, allegedly profited through corrupt deals, and potentially endangered the security of the country by hob-knobbing with a spy?

Why is no one calling for an official enquiry?

Why aren’t we hearing from those who matter about whether or not there was a deliberate cover up?

Why on earth would the Queen have made a statement about Andrew? And in fact why would any of them say anything because if they did it would look like they are interceding on his behalf to sway opinion

Everyonesawher · 18/09/2025 09:23

Gingersky1234 · 18/09/2025 05:21

Weepixie I take your point about keeping counsel but I am not referring to PA’s association with Epstein but his dubious financial activities while acting as trade envoy.

** Also that the RF and those that work for them have allegedly known about PA’s activities for over a decade and have allegedly turned a blind eye to him breaking corruption laws while acting as trade envoy and that no one seems to be particularly interested that the monarchy seems to consider themselves above the law because it doesn’t suit their narrative that the rest of the family can do no wrong but H&M are evil incarnate!

** Despite the above, the majority of posters still prefer to bang on about Meghan and Harry in a way that is completely disproportionate to anything they have done. At least Harry has been honest and open about making certain mistakes; something the rest of the family rarely admit to.

* I am mentioning this on a thread about H&M and addressing the two issues together because no one has satisfactorily answered the question as to why* this might be the case and why, yet again, the monarchy can do anything it wants and everyone will meekly accept it and not rock the boat while H&M take all of the flak? You don’t need to be a particular fan of theirs to be baffled by this!

** One example among many would be that there have been lots of incidents surrounding Michael Fawcett and Charles that have all been reported in the papers that allegedly involve bullying, racism, NDAs, and bags of cash and yet everyone goes “ok nothing to see here let’s move on”. Yet if M&H are accused of similar wrongdoings, all hell breaks loose!

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/sep/05/michael-fawcett-former-royal-aide-charles-once-called-indispensable

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/jun/25/prince-charles-is-said-to-have-been-given-3m-in-qatari-cash

* They are very much not* separate issues because it’s evident that H and M act as a very useful distraction to pull public attention away from what is actually going on in the RF eg that most of them are engaging in HIHO to one degree or another and profiting from sponsorships and sweet commercial deals on the side for which they don’t have to be accountable publically or pay the same taxes that ordinary citizens do and all of this is hidden by a convenient smokescreen of “don’t look over here, look over there”. When people accuse me of being an H&M lover it makes me laugh because I am far more interested in what all of the false outrage about them is actually hiding and why people continually buy in to it?

But that’s just not true - you do repeatedly refer to PA and Epstein

Your previous post only a few hours earlier states:

yes,I’m going to say it again, it’s an unavoidable but uncomfortable fact that Prince Andrew who is an alleged sex abuser, alleged exploiter of vulnerable women

Do you have an issue telling the truth?

SynysterGates · 18/09/2025 09:29

DipsyDee · 18/09/2025 09:18

Why on earth would the Queen have made a statement about Andrew? And in fact why would any of them say anything because if they did it would look like they are interceding on his behalf to sway opinion

she did make a statement, she paid off his victim.

DipsyDee · 18/09/2025 09:35

SynysterGates · 18/09/2025 09:29

she did make a statement, she paid off his victim.

You actually don’t know that she did that. And she didn’t make a statement

Mildorado · 18/09/2025 09:38

DipsyDee · 18/09/2025 09:35

You actually don’t know that she did that. And she didn’t make a statement

Absolutely. People pass off gossip and conjecture as fact.

SynysterGates · 18/09/2025 09:40

oh well the bbc and so on must have got it wrong. if the queen didn't pay it, wonder where he got the money from.

Everyonesawher · 18/09/2025 09:43

Gingersky1234 · 18/09/2025 06:49

That may well be the case in terms of the importance of what each are doing; but we all know that that is not how the press operates!

This goes right back to the days of Diana putting her hair up for the State Opening of Parliament simply because because she had opted for an outfit with a large upright collar and getting it in the neck from QE2 because too many of the headlines were about the hairstyle and not about the contents of the late Queen’s speech.

Ditto Charles being jealous of Diana on their first tour of Australia when everyone wanted to see her and not him.

You can understand the frustrations on both sides when neither are totally in control of what is reported,

There have always been jealousies and rivalries between the various members of the RF and their respective PR teams right back to when reporting started to be more than just uniformly deferential. It’s probably related to the Harry v William spat too.

It would be normal and appropriate to devise a PR strategy around the next 24 months about how they are going to handle Charles’s reconciliation with Harry and upcoming important events so one doesn’t get overshadowed by the other.

Goodness for someone who points the finger in rage and disgust to accuse them (erroneously) of reading, swallowing and regurgitating everything the tabloids write about the RF — you have just demonstrated that this is what YOU ado and have done for decades - unless of course were are a close personal friend of Diana and got your info directly ‘from the horses mouth’.

DipsyDee · 18/09/2025 09:45

SynysterGates · 18/09/2025 09:40

oh well the bbc and so on must have got it wrong. if the queen didn't pay it, wonder where he got the money from.

When did the BBC say she paid it?

Mildorado · 18/09/2025 09:46

SynysterGates · 18/09/2025 09:40

oh well the bbc and so on must have got it wrong. if the queen didn't pay it, wonder where he got the money from.

I can't find anything on the BBC archive.
Or any other evidence that the late Queen either paid this money, or made it statement about it.

DipsyDee · 18/09/2025 09:47

Mildorado · 18/09/2025 09:46

I can't find anything on the BBC archive.
Or any other evidence that the late Queen either paid this money, or made it statement about it.

i looked and there insnt any either. Gosh the fans do like to fib from time to time

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