As ever/WLM2- puts the boasting into hosting

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Continuing the on from the As ever thread

• Funny article from Jan Moir

https://archive.ph/UfTPx

• Turns out Chrissy wasn’t the only known bully that Meg invited onto the show. David Chang has serious anger issues and has bullied staff

https://www.standard.co.uk/culture/tvfilm/meghan-markle-s-shameless-pr-stunt-with-david-chang-is-disgusting-b1244549.html

• Megs new show hasn’t appeared in the Top ten on NF in the UK or US, which she had done for the first series. NF aren’t promoting it other that in the ‘new this week’ section. You also have to scroll along to find it.

• No stock sold out yet

I did wonder if this was an attempt to clapback at criticism they got after Harry's Spare bitching at Catherine staying behind for their children and why Meghan didn't get a place on the plane to Balmoral.

Everything they say seems to be a veiled threat or clapback.

It is a bit weird for a middle aged woman to be going on about her 'love story' in public. It comes across as a tad desperate and delusional

I just can't imagine anyone that I know who has been married for more than 5 minutes talking about their husband this way, even the younger generation in our family who are now all getting married don't say stuff like this. It's so twee and sickly.

I don't understand the hatred for tights (now up there with the lip gloss incident as an example of her terrible oppression).
What did M wear with a dress or skirt during a Toronto winter?

Well the tale about Charlottes tights looks like it was true.
They are both very prone to hold grudges and both have a massive persecution complex. It does give the impression that they both pore over every little thing that’s said about them and then think about how to get a dig in in response.

Why though? It's just so pathetic. Move on

Well quite.

Harry and Meghan both seem to latch onto to tiny perceived slights. Most people would have moved on, but these two seem to bare a grudge.

I do sometimes think - is there anyone you can think of who had such a high platform to launch themselves from and made such a mess of it.? The problem I think is that H&M are still the same people with the same skills and talents they had in the RF (H) and by marriage (M) and they don't have that Royal lustre now but still having to fall back on those skills and talents. Harder in the real world.

I am old enough to remember Pia Zadora - wasn't she the one who married someone very very rich who tried to make her into an acting / singing star. But she just wasn't up to it & became a bit of a joke. Not quite the right analogy , but maybe you see where I'm going with that.

I think M will find something which will pull in some money but at the moment not massive Montecito money. Without the RF connection - which they have severed themselves , I think she's becoming a busted flush. As I think is H . You can refer to tights , before during after , my husband etc etc all you but unless you are front and centre on globally watched BRF occasions year in year out you are a bit Ruritanian, bit part in the history of the RF. Titles or no.

Other opinions are available. I'm here till Friday , try the fish.
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Her correct title is The Duchess of Sussex.
If Harry had not been given a Dukedom, she would have been Princess Henry of Wales on marriage (now, just Princess Henry, since Charles became King?).

The name Meghan does not and would not feature anywhere, which is maybe what she dislikes (as a previous poster said).

That doesn’t make sense. She took the kids over earlier in the summer for the Jubilee and did a big photo shoot and media campaign using Lili’s 1st BDay.

My hunch is she had a deep plane face lift and had to wait 3 weeks for the bruising and stitches to heal and not frighten the kids.

Why didn't they just fly the kids over? They still had Frogmore at the time and the kids were 3 and 1 so it wouldn't have been difficult.

i wonder if this is another one of her clapbacks as an ‘explanation’ for how obviously uncomfortable she was on that walkabout with William and Catherine. Now its become a period when she was ‘unwell’ due to ‘missing her children’.

She was already away from her kids on a planned trip, it was extended by a week or so due to staying for the queens funeral, she could easily have gone back to the US and flown back for the funeral, FOMO on her part kept her in the UK, I suspect.

I think she didn't want to leave Harry alone. He could have ended up drinking with old friends and gone a bit wild. I'm sure he was grieving his grandmother without joining the dots about his own behaviour.

...or worse, started to reconcile a bit, thus damaging their perpetual victimhood status.

It would be very interesting to look into the future and see how life turns out for them. In ten years she’ll be in her fifties and so will he. They will just be completely irrelevant. The loves young dream trope will not work anymore. Their kids will be teenagers and immersed in life in the US with their own friends and lives we would hope. I just can’t imagine how they’ll stay in the public eye unless they find new ways to be controversial or do a family reality show.

@Thedom I had completely forgotten about that! They very much could have brought the kids over, they chose not to. I suspect your reasoning is correct too. She wanted to be able to keep an eye on him and she knew he wouldn’t allow the children to be photographed so she left them in California while she babysat Harry.

Those poor children don’t get to attend any family events because of their parents control issues!

What always struck me as odd was that portrait they released of Princess Lilibet on her 1st birthday, the pictures of her party and the portrait of her sitting on the lawn at Frogmore. Then again it was the Platinum Jubilee weekend, so perhaps it was to capitalise on that.

I don’t think she wanted to leave H alone in the UK in case he ended up having conversations with his family which she wouldn’t be involved in. If she was so desperate to see her dcs though, they could have had them flown on a jet with nannies and whisked through VIP security. They are not like us. They can make things happen. I don’t know how they stayed so long without their DCs on that occasion.

Am I right in saying they tried to hitch a lift back on Air Force One after the funeral ?
Sorry , slight derail but just musing .

@Mylovelygreendressyes there was a rumour about that.

At that time they were touting around the Netflix crew and the Queen’s death was a fantastic opportunity for content. No way was Meghan going to duck out of a chance to be filmed (even long range through the bushes) at Balmoral and of course a first-person account of the plane ride, deathbed scene and juicy tidbits about family members there.

I don’t think she wanted to leave H alone in the UK in case he ended up having conversations with his family which she wouldn’t be involved in

I've always thought the same, @JSMill - especially remembering she was kept away from the "Sandringham summit" and maybe felt they'd have got a better deal if she'd been there to drive it instead of her hapless husband.
Vanishingly unlikely of course, but a very possible scenario with someone who so obviously seeks to control everything

Mainly, though, I'm concerned that their relative silence might suggest that "bring them back" negotiations are going on behind the scenes

I don’t think there is a chance in hell that Meghan would ever come back to the UK.

Neither do I, Makehaysunshine, but whether or not that would be necessary is unknowable

How could she ever face the RF again, she's still having digs at them now.

@Mylovelygreendress I think you are right about Air Force 1. here is one account I've googled ( below. )

I'm sure they would have loved the photos of that - but apart from any diplomatic problems I don't think Air Force 1 is just the President's private jet. There are strict protocols ( given a large part of it is funded by the US taxpayer ). But the likes of @BemusedAmerican or @My2cents1975 will know better than me. Personally I think it was rather cheeky and not a little hubristic. Maybe they thought the Archewell donation to the Biden's daughter's charity might give them a shout ( BUT I don't know the timeline of those things so take that as speculation)

nypost.com/2023/07/19/harry-and-meghan-denied-ride-home-from-queens-funeral-on-air-force-one/