As ever/WLM2- puts the boasting into hosting

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Continuing the on from the As ever thread

• Funny article from Jan Moir

https://archive.ph/UfTPx

• Turns out Chrissy wasn’t the only known bully that Meg invited onto the show. David Chang has serious anger issues and has bullied staff

https://www.standard.co.uk/culture/tvfilm/meghan-markle-s-shameless-pr-stunt-with-david-chang-is-disgusting-b1244549.html

• Megs new show hasn’t appeared in the Top ten on NF in the UK or US, which she had done for the first series. NF aren’t promoting it other that in the ‘new this week’ section. You also have to scroll along to find it.

• No stock sold out yet

Also agree. Can't imagine anything more vulgar.

When will the penny drop that those members of the RF who reveal least about themselves are the most popular?

Why is it vulgar for anyone to speak of trauma - going through it and overcoming it?

Having a platform with such global reach could really help someone else struggling in life.

It’s selling trauma that’s vulgar. And doing so without applying any learning or resolution. I don’t think that kind of over sharing benefits anybody.

I happened to see this on FB which I thought was interesting as people here sometimes refer to other European Royal Families as being good examples .

I follow the European royals and let's just say that recently nobody knowledgeable about them would recommend the Norwegians as an example to follow!

As soon as so called republicans on here bang on about how our royal family should be more like European royals I know that they are utterly clueless, they wouldn’t know a European royal if one hit them repeatedly in the face with a wet fish, let alone have any clue on how any of the European royal dynasty’s operate. I think their grandness, huge wealth, traditions, ceremonies, palaces and Crown jewels would come as quite a shock, let alone the scandals that are currently headline news.

But over-sharing was not what I suggested in my post? I suggested a contextual review of the childhood traumas that impacted Diana - and how these shaped her emotionally and left her vulnerable. Her experiences were objectively devastating. We know so much more about emotional development now - it could be a significant compassionate and productive endeavour.

100% agree - I've said this a few times on threads, such as when people say we should slim down to save money, ignoring the fact that we're already doing that in the UK with no discernible benefit to UK citizens on the whole.

Norway - The smallest RF has still had numerous problems. Princess Martha Louise uses her title in money making ventures - I think she currently has her own Netflix documentary. She is married to a man who has made numerous dodgy claims, including selling medallions that he claimed would cure Covid. The Crown Princess' son is currently due to go on trial in 2026 for 32 offences, including 4 counts of rape.

Sweden - Less slimmed down than the UK. All grandchildren of the monarch, including female line descendants, have princely titles and dukedoms, although some of them no longer have their HRH. They all get orders and official televised christenings etc. although it's accepted that they mostly won't have official roles.

Belgium - Less slimmed down than the UK. All grandchildren of the monarch, including female line descendants, currently have princely titles. There is ongoing low level drama around Princess Delphine, who was born from an extra marital affair of King Albert. The Belgian courts decided to recognise her and her children as princes/princesses, because the Royal Decree governing titles never specified that children had to be born in marriage. This meant that 3 people raised completely out of the RF are now walking around as Princes/Princesses of Belgium.

Denmark - One of the most lavish courts out there imo. They have a lot of official televised banquets/celebrations for things that aren't constitutionally significant, like the Queen's 50th birthday and the coming of age celebrations for Princess Isabella (not the heir). They have removed titles from other grandchildren, but that is pointless window dressing given the above.

Luxembourg - all grandchildren of the monarch have princely titles, albeit not 'of Luxembourg. There was also an investigation into bullying by the current Grand Duchess.

Leaving out Monaco as I think they don't receive state funds, and Holland as I don't know much about them.

TLDR: The point is that the European royals generally aren't any better behaved than ours, and they certainly aren't more slimmed down, with the exception of Norway. I'm not sure it has benefitted the Norwegians though, given the above.

Good points, @KatherineParr . Plus, I see far more tiara wearing and banquets from the Danish and Swedish royals than our own. Low key and low budget they are not!

Really good point which I missed - they are very happy to bring out tiaras and hold banquets at any opportunity. They don't play around with custom headpieces to give the illusion of being more low key. I don't mind any of this - it quite frankly makes them more fun to watch than the British royals - but it isn't true to claim that the Brits are more extravagant than other monarchies. They aren't. Beatrice, Eugenie and Louise would be bringing out the tiaras and orders on a regular basis in other monarchies.

You're right. I've seen pictures of Danish events where are the royals are wearing sashes, and all the women are wearing tiaras. There are lots of official portraits issued.

The three richest royal families in Europe are the three smallest too - Liechtenstein, Luxembourg and Monaco. They have multi-billion fortunes.

Good article:

https://archive.ph/irH9b

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/columnists/article-15070389/The-Meghans-brand-baffling-just-teatime-products-tarted-Duchesss-oddly-menacing-calligraphy-thats-not-strangest-JAN-MOIR.html

One thing that does baffle me, is how she thinks her jam jars are going to get into retail stores. What retail stores? If she’s going global, it’s not coming to Tescos anytime soon. How would a tiny jar of marmalade at 215g for £6.70 fare against sitting next to Tescos Marmalade 454g for £1?

Even the branded jams are sold in bigger sizes- Bonne mamam marmalade jars are 370g for £2.30.

So it won’t be supermarkets she sells in. So where? Whole foods? - As ever is just a private label job, it has no story, health benefits, sustainable blah blah blah ….so they won’t touch it. Departments stores? Perhaps, but that’s not going to turn it into an everyday staple for your cupboards.

The whole thing doesn’t make sense…..as ever

I found it strange that Catherine wore a custom headpiece for the Coronation. Just why?? There’s lots of tiaras in the vaults. If a coronation isn’t a reason to wear a tiara, what is then? The needless expense annoyed me.

I think they're always loathe to get the tiaras out, it seems to me,apart from the Queen on special occasions. I don't know why they don't, as you say, they're in the vaults. Wear them!

I just don't see what appeal As Ever has for anyone who isn't a hard core Meghan fan.

She's selling basic, bland, generic products which can be had in any supermarket for a fraction of the price. As you say, there is no 'story', no USP, nothing to give her products any sort of 'edge' over the competition. There's no claim that her products are organic, locally produced, proceeds going to charity or the like. Basically, you're supposed to buy them because she's a Duchess. Which may be enough for members of the 'squad', but it certainly won't convince anyone else.

I think they think it is "less showy" to bring out the tiaras less. Imo it's pointless. The royal watchers end up disappointed, the republicans don't care, and they're 30k down. Just wear a tiara. We all know you've got them!

This! Absolutely! I always get the feeling that Kate is a reluctant tiara wearer.

I like the bling too. Camilla obviously loves it and it suits her but Kate doesn't seem very enthusiastic. Still, she's got time. It might be easier to wear the bigger pieces when you're older.

The invitation to the coronation had a green, nature theme. The tiaras worn by Catherine and Charlotte looked like vines or tree branches and fit the theme. I remember thinking how lovely they looked. I suspect they are lighter for all day wear.

https://www.royal.uk/news-and-activity/2023-04-04/the-coronation-invitation

I had read (somewhere - it was a while ago) that it was at the request of the King that there were no tiaras at the Coronation, in keeping with a more 'pared down' approach compared to 1953. There were also many fewer members of the aristocracy than at previous coronations, no peers' spouses, and a small number of seats allocated to sitting members of the House of Lords. In their place were people who had been awarded the British Empire Medal - for community service. The quote at the time was 'meritocracry not aristocracy'. The other places were taken up by officials/dignitaries.

The PoW headpiece was a floral decoration in keeping with the environmental theme that KCIII had through the rest of the ceremony. I presume (though obviously don't know) that it would have been approved by him.

Valentine Low (former royal journalist for The Times)’s latest book claims Charles wanted a pared back Coronation, but the Government insisted on the full spectacle. Presumably with an eye to the international coverage?

I thought that King Charles ordered that there be no tiaras other than the crowns worn by him and Camilla?

It’s was absolutely ridiculous wasn’t it? this trying to look oh so humble by not wearing the diamonds they have in the Tower yet commissioning a brand new head piece, it really annoyed me too. The European royals wear their crowns and tiaras at every available opportunity, they aren’t embarrassed by their vast collections unlike our royals it appears.