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The royal family

As ever/WLM2- puts the boasting into hosting

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AtIusvue · 27/08/2025 07:49

Continuing the on from the As ever thread

  • Funny article from Jan Moir

https://archive.ph/UfTPx

  • Turns out Chrissy wasn’t the only known bully that Meg invited onto the show. David Chang has serious anger issues and has bullied staff

https://www.standard.co.uk/culture/tvfilm/meghan-markle-s-shameless-pr-stunt-with-david-chang-is-disgusting-b1244549.html

  • Megs new show hasn’t appeared in the Top ten on NF in the UK or US, which she had done for the first series. NF aren’t promoting it other that in the ‘new this week’ section. You also have to scroll along to find it.
  • No stock sold out yet

Meghan Markle’s shameless PR stunt with David Chang is disgusting

The first episode of With Love, Meghan season two has a nasty jumpscare

https://www.standard.co.uk/culture/tvfilm/meghan-markle-s-shameless-pr-stunt-with-david-chang-is-disgusting-b1244549.html

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Treeleaf11 · 03/09/2025 16:05

The name Charlotte has a sad history in the RF. Didnt the last Princess Charlotte die horribly in childbirth. Always seemed a strange choice of name.

EmpressSisi · 03/09/2025 16:08

PullTheBricksDown · 03/09/2025 15:44

She definitely had blue eyes in her first birthday photos at Frogmore. And bright red hair. The latest back of the head photo shows it's still red, maybe a bit darker. I don't know where Harry gets golden from but he clearly wishes that his daughter looked exactly like his mum and that's a recipe for all sorts of trouble. Lili will be her own person.

Harry clearly has an intense fixation on his mother. I can understand that losing Diana so young left deep scars, but the way he speaks about her often feels unsettling. The anecdote about thinking of her while applying Elizabeth Arden cream to his frostbitten injury, for example, was bizarre. On top of that, he seems to project Diana onto both his wife and his daughter, which only adds to the strangeness.

He also appears to lavish more attention on Lilibet than on Archie. Not in a sinister way, of course, but it stood out to me in Spare when he wrote about wanting to be the first person to touch and hold his daughter, and how frequently he remarks on her blue eyes, her mannerisms, and how much she reminds him of Diana. Archie, by contrast, often feels like an afterthought in his narrative.

I don’t pretend to understand their family dynamics, but the imbalance comes across as odd, and I can’t help feeling a little sorry for Archie at times.

Thedom · 03/09/2025 16:31

Absolutely JSMill

EmpressSisi · 03/09/2025 16:36

JSMill · 03/09/2025 15:48

It’s very strange that they seem to emphasise how white and English their dcs look when they were the ones who caused a massive fuss about a senior RF member speculating about the colour of their baby’s skin.
I think it’s a shame that both W and H named their dds after the paternal dgm and neither of the maternal dgms got a look in.

I remember reading that Charlotte was chosen to honour Carole, as it’s a variation of her name (Charlotte → Charles → Carolus → Carole). Catherine’s friends have said she’d had this name in mind long before she met William, and it’s also Pippa’s middle name, given in tribute to Carole.

It’s been speculated that Pippa later returned the gesture by giving her daughter Grace the middle name Elizabeth—a name that’s very much a Middleton family one too, shared by both Catherine and Carole. Some suggest Catherine chose it to honour her mother (and possibly herself) while also neatly honouring William’s grandmother.

That “Charlotte” is also the feminine form of Charles feels like a happy coincidence—especially since Louis already has Charles among his middle names.

Ohpleeeease · 03/09/2025 16:54

PullTheBricksDown · 03/09/2025 15:44

She definitely had blue eyes in her first birthday photos at Frogmore. And bright red hair. The latest back of the head photo shows it's still red, maybe a bit darker. I don't know where Harry gets golden from but he clearly wishes that his daughter looked exactly like his mum and that's a recipe for all sorts of trouble. Lili will be her own person.

The first birthday photo showed her with strawberry blonde hair and pale skin, which was very much baby colouring. If Harry thinks his daughter’s hair colour now will last till she’s an adult he’s in for a disappointment. It’s a silly thing to get excited about.

BalloonSlayer · 03/09/2025 17:59

Harry's hair as a small child was blond and very straight, although it was a more reddish blond than William's at the same age. It then went ginger and straight and now is ginger and curly.

In some photos Archie's hair does not look very bright red, in others more so. But I guess it depends on the light.

Butteredtoast55 · 03/09/2025 19:42

I love Archie's dark auburn - it's a lovely colour.

KittyTinker · 03/09/2025 20:05

Does anyone else wonder why she has cleared out the shopmy account now? It makes me think of dropping the Tig when it became knowledge that they were a couple. Could she be pre-emptying rejoining the family firm?

FleurDeFleur · 03/09/2025 20:09

KittyTinker · 03/09/2025 20:05

Does anyone else wonder why she has cleared out the shopmy account now? It makes me think of dropping the Tig when it became knowledge that they were a couple. Could she be pre-emptying rejoining the family firm?

Do you honestly think there is the remotest possibility of this ever happening?!

Butteredtoast55 · 03/09/2025 20:09

KittyTinker · 03/09/2025 20:05

Does anyone else wonder why she has cleared out the shopmy account now? It makes me think of dropping the Tig when it became knowledge that they were a couple. Could she be pre-emptying rejoining the family firm?

Surely not? I just assumed it was another thing she's lost interest in. She has spoken a lot about everything being about As ever now.
I've said before that, on a human level, I really hope Charles and Harry can reconcile. But I'd be very disappointed if they came back as working royals and, let's face it, that would probably only last until William were king.

FleurDeFleur · 03/09/2025 20:13

Yes, I hope Harry can reconcile with his father on a personal level. I think that would be very healing for both of them.
Neither Harry nor Meghan will have any royal role, however. That's entirely their choice.

Mylovelygreendress · 03/09/2025 20:32

I cannot see Meghan setting foot in the U.K. again . Remember Harry says it isn’t safe for her or the DC .

jamnpancakes · 03/09/2025 20:35

FleurDeFleur · 03/09/2025 20:09

Do you honestly think there is the remotest possibility of this ever happening?!

No.

AtIusvue · 03/09/2025 21:05

I think this is was just an experiment to get data/metrics on the ‘Meghan effect’

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Weepixie · 03/09/2025 21:34

@AtIusvue whats that?

RecoIIectionsMayVary · 03/09/2025 21:39

I think it’s a shame that both W and H named their dds after the paternal dgm and neither of the maternal dgms got a look in.

I don't agree with this. The maternal grandparents get to be grandparents (well if allowed, I guess) honouring a departed mother is right.

Aur0raAustralis · 04/09/2025 06:48

I agree with @RecoIIectionsMayVary and I think most couples who had one mother who had passed away in her 30s and one who was still alive, would favour the departed mother when it came to names.

Ohpleeeease · 04/09/2025 07:15

I realise I’m alone in this but I think naming a child after a dead relative is such a weird thing to do. They have no emotional connection with said relative but are being used as a living memorial. I have deep misgivings about the way both W and H’s children are being encouraged to connect with Diana through letters, etc. I think it’s an unhealthy preoccupation in both families.

FleurDeFleur · 04/09/2025 07:33

I think it's a unique situation, though. Diana was world famous, and her death had a huge impact and was global news. Perhaps it's important to somehow show grandchildren she was something other than a public figure.
My mother died when I was very young, @Ohpleeeease . When my daughter was born I gave her my mother's name as a middle name. It was a way of remembering and including her. My daughter never had a grandma, but she's happy to have the name.

Madchest · 04/09/2025 08:06

I think the naming of the daughter was focused on hierarchy and $$$$$ - not emotion. They had already flounced and flicked the V’s to the BRF - but now needed royal adjacency to grow their super A list billionaire brand - so not only did they call her after arguably one of the most significant women in n world history but intruded on her personal intimacy with using her childhood nickname without permission. All for the profile and the $$$$$’s.

FleurDeFleur · 04/09/2025 08:11

Yes, I think giving her the first name "Lilibet" was very calculating, and quite unpleasant, really.

Honkingyellowdaffodils · 04/09/2025 08:36

EmpressSisi · 03/09/2025 16:08

Harry clearly has an intense fixation on his mother. I can understand that losing Diana so young left deep scars, but the way he speaks about her often feels unsettling. The anecdote about thinking of her while applying Elizabeth Arden cream to his frostbitten injury, for example, was bizarre. On top of that, he seems to project Diana onto both his wife and his daughter, which only adds to the strangeness.

He also appears to lavish more attention on Lilibet than on Archie. Not in a sinister way, of course, but it stood out to me in Spare when he wrote about wanting to be the first person to touch and hold his daughter, and how frequently he remarks on her blue eyes, her mannerisms, and how much she reminds him of Diana. Archie, by contrast, often feels like an afterthought in his narrative.

I don’t pretend to understand their family dynamics, but the imbalance comes across as odd, and I can’t help feeling a little sorry for Archie at times.

Harry has a troubled relationship with his father and his brother. It’s not that surprising that he struggles with his relationship with his son, I don’t think he has any role models of positive male family dynamics that are not tainted by bitterness, resentment, jealousy and a whole host of other emotions. I do feel for Archie.

FleurDeFleur · 04/09/2025 08:40

He's such a troubled person, @Honkingyellowdaffodils ?
I would agree. What I find strange is that for a multimillionaire privileged prince of 40, with no particular job, is that he hasn't worked on getting past this. He has access to all kinds of help and support. No waiting list, no worries about the bill. If he wanted to, he could get therapy and work on dealing with the demons.
I've known of people dealing with far worse, and with far fewer resources.

BoudiccaRuled · 04/09/2025 09:03

@FleurDeFleur unfortunately, I think that he's only focused on therapy, and has become completely obsessed with introspection. There comes a point, and it doesn't take long, where a person needs to simple "get on with it".
Harry is waaay beyond that. He's dug himself into the most enormous hole but has estranged himself from those who would have helped him out.

My2cents1975 · 04/09/2025 09:07

What happens if H gets the meeting he wants and then makes a beeline to the nearest microphone to broadcast his "recollections" of said meeting as part of H's never-ending quest for privacy in the heart of the spotlight?

Bearing in mind, H has a less than perfect history of truth-telling. Classic examples include the extraordinary claim he was by himself at Eton and was told his DGGM died over the phone and his BBC interview after losing a court case accusing the firm of a "stitch-up".

If H's reckless rhetoric results in a diplomatic debacle...what then for team reconciliation without accountability?

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