Prince Harry's Wreath

[Profhilodisaster]

So apparently Prince Harry has asked someone to lay a wreath on his behalf to honour the 80th anniversary of VJ Day.
I know the military meant a lot to him but he's being called out on it as he mentions his grandfather. I'd like to think he did this with the best intentions but the cynic in me wonders if he did it as a dig at William for only posting a message on social media.

There was no press release. GB News visited and covered the story. A tip-off from the friend, presumably.

The headlines would still have been W and C .

Perhaps he and Kate should dip out of everything then.

Did the friend also laminate it?

Perhaps this would have been a good thing? VJ Day is usually brushed over.

Whether William should have personally made an appearance is down to poster’s personal opinion, would it have been nice? Possibly but let’s not forget that it is not technically his role to be there, historically it’s the HOS role the job of the monarch to honour the veterans .
when the queen was still with us she attended, Charles the then POW did not , now Charles as king attended , William as the current POW did not attend.
everyone was happy with this arrangement but now it’s an issue! 🤷‍♀️
william did acknowledge the day with a more modern approach that would be more inline with the younger generations.

these complaints seem rather inconsistent, when the queen was alive people complained about Charles the POW and even went as far as saying he should not be king and William should take the role instead, now Charles is king apparently it’s fine and now it’s William as current POW facing the complaints .
perhaps thats the real role of being the prince of wales?! A conduit for complaints.

Excellent points, @jeffgoldblum 👌

The Sussexes PR push from their new head of PR is being helped by the Royal Reporters unhappy with William and Catherine basically cutting them off. The Wales' now pretty much release stuff via their own IG.

The Sussexes on the other hand leak like seives, and they are a slow motion car crash currently so it serves the Reporters well.

It's a slow month for Royal news so this is all they have. Same story, different day.

I think that people got so used to seeing Charles attending events with his mother, and often standing in as proxy, during her latter years that we’ve become accustomed to seeing the head of state and the incumbent together.

yet this was a relatively recent thing.

previously I’m not sure that Charles shadowed his mother at every occasion.

now we’re seeing a resetting of that.

the king is, and should be, the focal point of every occasion. He is, after all, the representative of the nation

Spot on @jeffgoldblum and @MrsFinkelstein 😊

I think the other thing that may have contributed to the unease on this occasion (even from those who normally would be less critical) is that the VE day celebrations were so significant this year.
In contrast, William not being involved in the VJ day celebrations seems more noticeable, even though, as others say, Charles was not usually involved as PoW when the late Queen was at VJ day.

I think it's fair enough that people have a personal opinion on it, but that's all it is (including mine). William is following protocol and I don't think there's anything wrong with that.

Can't get fussed about Harold's tribute to Grandad. Quite a minor grandstand as royal grandstandings go and all from an increasing irrelevance.

More fussed that lavish public funding transpired to have underwritten a Grandad who was allegedly quite the alleycat on the sly and also quite interested in how said Grandad managed to accumulate some $30m in his own right and why he was still drawing a substantial annuity from the public purse after he retired.

However. Also more fussed that the future head of the armed forces CBA to break off from his much vaunted kiddie wrangling to attend what will inevitably be one of the last possible commemorations involving brave veterans who actually lived through those horrors.

I don't care if Papa gave him a hall pass to hide behind. 40+ W's his own man and should have insisted on going.

Yeah; it’s a fair point!

I don’t recall him mentioning much about Anne and Edward either in Spare, but I have wondered about it.

(There was a bit about certain family members being obsessive about winning the “Court Circular prize” of busiest royal which obviously refers to Anne, Harry was annoyed when the amount of visits he and William did were strictly controlled by KC anyway and there was some grumbling about the figures being slightly manipulated. No doubt other posters will remember if Edward was mentioned in Spare; I can’t remember.)

There are several possibilities I can think of for Harry not mentioning Andrew:

-He knew he would be opening up a can of worms and decided to keep well away from the subject of PA altogether. Especially as we now know from Lownie that PA’s corrupt activities were allegedly known about by the crown and were allegedly covered up.

-Lownie has alluded to something about the possibility of KC allegedly having a shared offshore account with PA and so maybe all of their finances are inter-mingled in some way? If you have pots of money, I guess you have to stash it somewhere and presumably tax havens are favoured?

-Pressure has been brought to bear and Harry has been told to remain loyal or he will never reconcile with his father?

-NDAs have been signed?

-Or some sort of monetary reward for loyalty is involved?

-Or he made a promise to the late QE2?

-He detests The Mail?

-He decided not to mention anything because he was close to Eugenie before she went to lunch with Piers Morgan?

-I hope not but he’s sees PA and him as outsiders together and didn’t realise the extent of PA’s alleged corruption?

-Or Harry is also using PA as a useful idiot to glean information about his family now he has been cut off?

Who knows? That’s all the reasons I can think of! Nothing at this point would surprise me but compared to what Prince Andrew has done, it’s really surprising to me that posters are still so focused on criticising Harry.

It is bizarre though that he’s denied punching PA publically as that accusation is probably one of Harry’s best PR stories in a while!

I think it would be interesting to see how much Invictus is charged for Harry and Meghan's 5 star hotels and Meghan's multiple wardrobe changes, while the actual injured veterans have to fund themselves to attend.

@Ploachedplorridge
I do take some of your points especially the one about H v A ( for want of a better expression) but I think 99.9% of MN agree that Andrew is an odious person so there really isn’t a lot to discuss/ argue about hence the low number of threads whereas Harry is much more polarising.

“Pressure has been brought to bear and Harry has been told to remain loyal or he will never reconcile with his father?”

Why would he then criticise Camilla ? Also Catherine ( who Charles is clearly fond of) and William .

Although I can be sceptical about SM , there is persistent speculation that Andrew and Meghan knew each other in the past so that can of worms is being kept firmly closed .

The statement denying H punched A is weird . He would have gone up in my estimation if he had !

Interesting social media responses from military in Sussex re Harry:

https://nitter.net/ScotFEPOWtrust/status/1957782817644876053#m

https://x.com/ScotFEPOWtrust/status/1957782817644876053

Mine too!

Mylovelygreendress
I’d say there is a fair bit more to discuss about Andrew now, thanks to Lownie’s determined digging. And as usual, the alleged cover up is just as interesting as the original financial corruption, if not more so!

I take your point about criticisms - I don’t know tbh - but I was wondering if a financial settlement or agreement may be in the making currently, silencing him from now onwards, with strings attached? Sheer speculation on my part though. I have no idea!

Hadn’t heard those alleged rumours about M and PA so that’s a new one on me.

And yes, yes about the punch!

Lownie has alluded to something about the possibility of KC allegedly having a shared offshore account with PA

This is an interesting snippet. A has long been linked with offshore accounts, shell companies and nominees but there was uproar when the Paradise Papers revealed E2 was holding funds offshore.

If C3 is doing similar especially with disgraced A, it would seem to be yet another example of his questionable judgement.

My theory about Harold's silence on A is that the Yorks have given him tips on how best to maximise his Delaware registered operations and he's laid off them in return.

I agree, and would go one step further and say that Andrew probably knows a great deal about Harry and Meghans activities!

Interesting theory. As someone said, it's all very murky.

"Nothing at this point would surprise me but compared to what Prince Andrew has done, it’s really surprising to me that posters are still so focused on criticising Harry."

When PA pops up in the news, he gets his turn for MN opprobrium.

When PH turns up in the news, so does he.

But one actively ensures he pops up in the news more than the other. So I don't think that MNers are 'focussed' on Harry, they are reacting to the new cycle and PR stunts, in which Harry occurs far more than his uncle.

(But 'but Andrew' is a really useful SS squirrel.)

And as you know , I recently had two threads dedicated to discussing the new book and Andrew , it was surprising how many posters were not interested considering how often we are told “ but Andrew” !