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JADS · 06/08/2025 19:20

The CC have done their job and found fault on both sides in the media approach. Ultimately it shows that SC was 100% correct in her initial referral and that governance needed to be sorted out.

While the CC found no "systemic bullying", Harry and Prince Seesio's actions by trying to smear SC in trial by media could be described as bullying. Given Harry's links to the Parent Network, he looks like a hypocrite. I don't blame SC for coming out strongly in her own defence. It was completely different to the RF grey rock approach. I don't doubt she felt bullied and that everyone was being racist towards her. It sounded absolutely horrible.

I'll be honest even the statement issued today by Harry feels like bullying. I used to work with someone who always had to get the last word in and it always felt very demeaning.

Snobb · 06/08/2025 19:21

Ladedahlia · 06/08/2025 19:03

Does anyone else have someone in their family like Harry? I do. The similarities in behaviour are so similar. It's quite bizarre how the same outlooks, attitudes and language prevail and a total personality change. My relative is not a weed smoker, so it's not that.

https://www.verywellmind.com/signs-of-a-vulnerable-narcissist-7369901

12 Signs of a Vulnerable Narcissist

Learn the key signs of a vulnerable narcissist and how to identify if someone you know is dealing with narcissistic behavior.

https://www.verywellmind.com/signs-of-a-vulnerable-narcissist-7369901

JADS · 06/08/2025 19:23

Snobb · 06/08/2025 15:18

Such a difference in tone from either sides communication - one side humble, gracious to the CC and focusing on the needs of the children they are there to support and the other kicking-off in an ugly rant, floucing and focusing on solely on themselves. One is a strategic response the other a hot-headed reaction.

I cant imagine anyone with integrity having any confidence to bank-roll his 'new' charity.

Edited

I agree with this.

I know one of gripes I have read is that 2 new board members have left so this proof of SC's incompetance. So not the vile abuse the SS heaped on them after this whole drama then?

Snobb · 06/08/2025 19:24

JADS · 06/08/2025 19:20

The CC have done their job and found fault on both sides in the media approach. Ultimately it shows that SC was 100% correct in her initial referral and that governance needed to be sorted out.

While the CC found no "systemic bullying", Harry and Prince Seesio's actions by trying to smear SC in trial by media could be described as bullying. Given Harry's links to the Parent Network, he looks like a hypocrite. I don't blame SC for coming out strongly in her own defence. It was completely different to the RF grey rock approach. I don't doubt she felt bullied and that everyone was being racist towards her. It sounded absolutely horrible.

I'll be honest even the statement issued today by Harry feels like bullying. I used to work with someone who always had to get the last word in and it always felt very demeaning.

Agree .... especially this statement - is it a threat / smear to both the CC and SC.

"The source added that the commission was “sitting so far on the fence that their feet are not even touching the ground but soon we’ll see the charity accounts and will be able to tell how successful, or otherwise, she [Sophie Chandauka] has been”.

Thedom · 06/08/2025 19:33

His latest ..... from 'a source'

https://www.newsweek.com/prince-harry-sentebale-charity-hostile-takeover-2109510

Harry had hoped the watchdog would force Chandauka out, a source told Newsweek, recognizing his own perspective that she was not fit to run Sentebale.

There is, though, a possible avenue for them to regain control of part of the charity, which is being actively explored.

A source close to the two princes told Newsweek: "There are a lot of complexities to the governance structure of Sentebale, which means we're not entirely clear as to, for example, whether or not Sentebale in Lesotho is a separate organization and charity to Sentebale in the U.K. And it's something that Prince Seeiso is exploring."

How the heck do they not know what the structure of Sentebale is? haven't they been running it for over 20 years?

Profhilodisaster · 06/08/2025 19:41

How the heck do they not know what the structure of Sentebale is? haven't they been running it for over 20 years?

Harry doesn't seem to know the structure of his own family, let alone a complicated charity. I can't imagine he had much to do with the running of it apart from helping his mates. Did he attend any AGMs ?

ThePoshUns · 06/08/2025 19:49

Ch5 have a programme on Saturday, ‘ Harry My terrible year 2025’ I’ll be getting some popcorn in.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 06/08/2025 20:24

A central comment from the CC was that the issues should not have been played out in the media as this has a severe negative impact not only on the children Sentabale support but also undermines trust more generally across the whole charity sector ...
And yet - he continues to mud-sling and play this out in the public domain

Again it's hardly a surprise, @Snobb; the Charity Commission did its job and quite reasonably there's been no overall blame heaped upon just one person, but clearly that's not good enough for Harry

As with his family it doesn't matter who he hurts with his tantrums and silly statements; all that counts is that he's seen to be a faultless exemple in all things, and unfortunately for him life just doesn't work like that

It's all down to his own choices though, and so are the consequences

Ohpleeeease · 06/08/2025 20:30

Sentebale was always going to outgrow Harry. He was of value while he was able to bring in funding but according to Dr C, and she would know and the charity's accounts would confirm, this was declining following Megxit.

The change of focus for the charity could be envigorating but they are going to have to source new funding streams. Whether it will thrive without Harry's connections only time will tell. It'll be interesting to see if Prince Seeiso also stays away or whether he embraces the new structure and direction. I feel it might be a greater loss for him.

NewAgeNewMe · 06/08/2025 20:56

TheAutumnCrow · 06/08/2025 15:25

Who’s advising him?

The Yorks, by the looks of it.

Brilliant 🤩😂👏👏

HonoriaBulstrode · 06/08/2025 22:34

The CC should formally sanction him and ... ban him from being on the boards of any registered charities.

They can only do that for charities registered in the UK, unfortunately. His new charity, if it ever happens, will probably be reg'd in California or somewhere it's not subject to the same scrutiny as UK charities are.

adajumper · 06/08/2025 22:37

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elessar · 06/08/2025 23:16

Thedom · 06/08/2025 19:33

His latest ..... from 'a source'

https://www.newsweek.com/prince-harry-sentebale-charity-hostile-takeover-2109510

Harry had hoped the watchdog would force Chandauka out, a source told Newsweek, recognizing his own perspective that she was not fit to run Sentebale.

There is, though, a possible avenue for them to regain control of part of the charity, which is being actively explored.

A source close to the two princes told Newsweek: "There are a lot of complexities to the governance structure of Sentebale, which means we're not entirely clear as to, for example, whether or not Sentebale in Lesotho is a separate organization and charity to Sentebale in the U.K. And it's something that Prince Seeiso is exploring."

How the heck do they not know what the structure of Sentebale is? haven't they been running it for over 20 years?

Gosh, that’s pretty sinister - so they’re going to try to rip the charity apart and take part of it back for themselves by the sounds of it.

Snobb · 06/08/2025 23:38

elessar · 06/08/2025 23:16

Gosh, that’s pretty sinister - so they’re going to try to rip the charity apart and take part of it back for themselves by the sounds of it.

Harry had hoped the watchdog would force Chandauka out, a source told Newsweek, recognizing his own perspective that she was not fit to run Sentebale.
There is, though, a possible avenue for them to regain control of part of the charity, which is being actively explored.

Wow he really is a nasty, vexatious POS isnt he. Is that another threat and smear on SC?

He's unwittingly showing his true colours (yet again) - all this will do is ensure anyone still on the fence re the RF situation will have their thoughts sharpened as to how he behaves when called out. Surely MM must see what a tool he is?

Must be excrutiating watching your undignified OH ranting and raving on the world stage in yet another fu*k -up.

BasiliskStare · 07/08/2025 00:28

Profhilodisaster · 06/08/2025 12:30

Apparently he's going to set up a new charity .

I won't be holding my breath 😂

Profhilodisaster · 07/08/2025 00:49

Wow he really is a nasty, vexatious POS isnt he. Is that another threat and smear on SC?

He's spiteful, saying he hoped SC was forced out rather than saying he hopes that the charity can now move forward and continue to support those it was designed to help. It shows that he's only interested in bringing people down who don't agree with him, he doesn't care about Sentebale.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 07/08/2025 01:41

This by Rebecca English in the Mail today, hopefully this link will work. when things don’t go his way his inner spoilt brat doesn’t take long to surface, now it’s the Charity Commission that isn’t fit for purpose, it was RAVEC the other week, I didn’t think he could get more odious but somehow he manages it.

https://archive.ph/0spqd

What’s more, while the prince is weighing up his options over what to do next, they said if he were to set up a charity again he ‘would categorically not do it under the jurisdiction of the Charity Commission for England and Wales which he has no faith in and would go as far to say that he believes isn’t fit for purpose’.

The commission, let us remind ourselves, is the Government’s independent regulatory body – and we all know, after his decisive loss in the Court of Appeal over his UK security arrangements earlier this year, what he thinks of such official bodies. Another ‘establishment stitch-up’, no doubt.

Serenster · 07/08/2025 06:09

When people show you who they are, believe them…

MrsLeonFarrell · 07/08/2025 06:39

Serenster · 07/08/2025 06:09

When people show you who they are, believe them…

Exactly.

And when everyone around you is wrong, maybe it's you.

Thedom · 07/08/2025 07:12

SENTEBALE CLARIFICATION REGARDING BULLYING AND HARASSMENT STATEMENTS

“It provides Sentebale with some degree of reassurance that the Charity Commission has not identified widespread bullying within the charity, but the Commission has acknowledged the strong perception of ill treatment felt by a number of parties to the dispute and the impact this may have had on them personally.
The Charity Commission is explicitly clear, including in its public guidance, that it is not the Commission’s responsibility to adjudicate or mediate internal disputes. This would include individual allegations of bullying, harassment, misogyny, misogynoir, etc.
As a result, the Commission has not investigated any individual allegations and therefore has not made any findings in relation to individuals, including Prince Harry. The issues not investigated by the Commission can and may be dealt with through avenues more appropriate than the Commission.”

chunkybear · 07/08/2025 08:38

Serenster · 07/08/2025 06:09

When people show you who they are, believe them…

Absolutely! And he does this time and time again!

Snobb · 07/08/2025 08:45

Thedom · 07/08/2025 07:12

SENTEBALE CLARIFICATION REGARDING BULLYING AND HARASSMENT STATEMENTS

“It provides Sentebale with some degree of reassurance that the Charity Commission has not identified widespread bullying within the charity, but the Commission has acknowledged the strong perception of ill treatment felt by a number of parties to the dispute and the impact this may have had on them personally.
The Charity Commission is explicitly clear, including in its public guidance, that it is not the Commission’s responsibility to adjudicate or mediate internal disputes. This would include individual allegations of bullying, harassment, misogyny, misogynoir, etc.
As a result, the Commission has not investigated any individual allegations and therefore has not made any findings in relation to individuals, including Prince Harry. The issues not investigated by the Commission can and may be dealt with through avenues more appropriate than the Commission.”

Edited

"The issues not investigated by the Commission can and may be dealt with through avenues more appropriate than the Commission.”

Watch out PH - the highly experienced, qualified and multi award winning legal expert SC is coming for you and your bullying.....

JSMill · 07/08/2025 09:08

Serenster · 07/08/2025 06:09

When people show you who they are, believe them…

Very true. He’s done it over and over again.

TheAutumnCrow · 07/08/2025 09:08

Snobb · 07/08/2025 08:45

"The issues not investigated by the Commission can and may be dealt with through avenues more appropriate than the Commission.”

Watch out PH - the highly experienced, qualified and multi award winning legal expert SC is coming for you and your bullying.....

She’s got the receipts, I reckon, eg that imperious text message.

I wonder if Sentebale will appoint an independent investigator with a barrister background to look into the bullying allegations and how they affected individuals at the charity. This has happened at a previous organisation I was involved with, and it was a useful exercise.

People do have to cooperate fully and tell the truth, though. And/or have proofs. I feel SC will have significant evidence to provide if H fails to cooperate.

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