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wordler · 04/10/2025 21:45

-re the infamous polo match: 'Reduced income from the April 2024 Miami polo challenge due to a late change in venue to accommodate a commercial filming request from one of the charity's former patrons that resulted in a financial shortfall of at least US$136000 for the charity'

That's shocking. The commercial filming request was to get footage for the Netflix documentary. The shortfall should really have been covered as part of production costs.

wordler · 04/10/2025 21:54

bluegreygreen · 04/10/2025 19:42

The Sentebale report and accounts to December 2024 are now out
Sentebale report and accounts

Reported in Telegraph
Telegraph archive link

Haven't been through it all yet but some points from commentary
-tricky financial situation with falling corporate sponsors from 2019 and reduced HNW individual/family donations from 2020
-events-based fundraising was expensive, as was UK based (London) HQ - £650 000 pa
-re the infamous polo match: 'Reduced income from the April 2024 Miami polo challenge due to a late change in venue to accommodate a commercial filming request from one of the charity's former patrons that resulted in a financial shortfall of at least US$136000 for the charity'

Do the reports say what the costs of running the charity polo match was compared to the income it generated?

I know William's recent charity polo match was reported as raising just over $1M for charity but I don't know what that meant in terms of profit after expenditure.

Profhilodisaster · 04/10/2025 21:59

Harry seems to have a habit of 'bending the rules' to get his own way.

IdaGlossop · 04/10/2025 22:13

Ian Rawlinson was a good hire and a foil for Sophie C's sometimes abrasive manner. Without using any names, he's managed to tell us that the charity's new fundraising strategy is to move from targetting INW individuals to corporates, thus stabilising income streams and with 70% of thIs year 's funding target already met. He also says that funding is used to maximise operational delivery, with the charity now rooted in Africa, the home of its beneficiaries.

If Harry was thinking instead of having tantrums, he would be able to see that the focused, informed leadership that Sophie has facilitated has in under a year made the charity viable for the longer term. An appropriate role for him now would be to make discreet visits to the projects in Africa a few times a year, spreading good will and Royal sparkle. That's not going to happen. What a very silly man he is. If he carries out his threat to set up a rival charity, he will be very, very silly.

StartupRepair · 04/10/2025 22:44

This is very damning about the polo Netflix adventure, isn't it? Can you imagine trying to work with a patron who considers himself and his ideas to be above the law or any sort of governance?

Snobb · 04/10/2025 23:43

More unlucky timing for MM with her NF Polo shenanigans rising up again just as she rocks up in Paris.

Couldn’t make it up.

Profhilodisaster · 05/10/2025 00:19

StartupRepair · 04/10/2025 22:44

This is very damning about the polo Netflix adventure, isn't it? Can you imagine trying to work with a patron who considers himself and his ideas to be above the law or any sort of governance?

Harry just seems to be constantly digging himself into a deeper hole, looks like he's now throwing his lawyer under the bus . This is regarding his lawsuit against the DM.

Then in the early hours of Thursday, when journalists in the UK were asleep, efforts were ramped up to get Harry’s version of events out.
A source close to the duke insisted that Harry was ‘not personally dragging’ his brother into the legal dispute and ‘wasn’t aware of the evidence presented as part of the general case argument made by David Sherborne’. The source added that Harry was ‘not responsible for’ the arguments made by Mr Sherborne.

Serenster · 05/10/2025 07:20

Pfft. As if his legal team didn’t need his instructions to introduce new evidence at this late stage in the proceedings.

Theunamedcat · 05/10/2025 07:32

Has he got yet another court case?

Baital · 05/10/2025 08:20

Serenster · 05/10/2025 07:20

Pfft. As if his legal team didn’t need his instructions to introduce new evidence at this late stage in the proceedings.

But lawyers represent their client, surely? That's their job. Not to 'make up' arguments. And if they start to create arguments their client doesn't want, their client shuts it down.

Harry is always such a victim, even of his own lawyers!

MrsLeonFarrell · 05/10/2025 08:53

I don't believe for one minute that Harry wasn't involved in the decision to try and drag William into his court case. I do believe that he see it wasn't received well and tried to wriggle out of responsibility. It seems to be how he works.

bluegreygreen · 05/10/2025 09:24

Blaming his lawyers isn't a good look because everyone knows otherwise - and at what point will the lawyers decide they've had enough of him?

They've probably gained any publicity benefit by now, so I presume could easily decide to sack him after his current case

mummytrex · 05/10/2025 09:32

They could sack him now mid case by terminating the retainer and making an application to the court to be removed from the record as acting for him.

mummytrex · 05/10/2025 09:34

Also IF what he is saying is true (that is solicitors acted without his approval) surely he would sack them as its a serious thing to act without client instructions. The fact he hasn't speaks volumes.

elessar · 05/10/2025 09:50

Presumably at the least they will withdraw these examples from their case, given that Harry “didn’t consent” to their inclusion

CathyorClaire · 05/10/2025 09:56

So. The upshot of the Sentebale debacle is we have yet another royal in a murky mess involving their charitable work.

Getting to be a habit for them.

Profhilodisaster · 05/10/2025 10:53

mummytrex · 05/10/2025 09:34

Also IF what he is saying is true (that is solicitors acted without his approval) surely he would sack them as its a serious thing to act without client instructions. The fact he hasn't speaks volumes.

I agree, he should be absolutely furious, especially as he said he would like to reconcile with his family.

IAmATorturedPoet · 05/10/2025 11:19

I see Harry is still digging himself a hole, he’ll be able to move into it soon. What a twit.

I’d pay a lot of money to be in the same room as David Sherborne, Bill Simmons, J R Moehringer and a magnum of Champagne!😊

Puzzledandpissedoff · 05/10/2025 11:29

Profhilodisaster · 05/10/2025 00:19

Harry just seems to be constantly digging himself into a deeper hole, looks like he's now throwing his lawyer under the bus . This is regarding his lawsuit against the DM.

Then in the early hours of Thursday, when journalists in the UK were asleep, efforts were ramped up to get Harry’s version of events out.
A source close to the duke insisted that Harry was ‘not personally dragging’ his brother into the legal dispute and ‘wasn’t aware of the evidence presented as part of the general case argument made by David Sherborne’. The source added that Harry was ‘not responsible for’ the arguments made by Mr Sherborne.

I see it's "sources" again, Profhilodisaster, but this is certainly of a piece with Harry's own comment along the lines of "I wish someone had told me that (I could lose) in the first place"

Once again it's all "someone else's fault", but I don't suppose Sherborne will be too upset given the exposure he's enjoying - and providing he gets paid of course

Puzzledandpissedoff · 05/10/2025 11:32

CathyorClaire · 05/10/2025 09:56

So. The upshot of the Sentebale debacle is we have yet another royal in a murky mess involving their charitable work.

Getting to be a habit for them.

It seems to have always been a habit, Cathy, only now the Queen's gone and there isn't the same protecive instinct around it's becoming more obvious

Baital · 05/10/2025 11:39

Presumably there is a complaints mechanism if ones lawyers exceed ones instructions?

The Bar Council?

I look forward to Harry lodging a complaint if he has been misrepresented.

mummytrex · 05/10/2025 11:49

"I wish someone had told me that (I could lose) in the first place"

As a litigator, I would be very very surprised if anyone told him his prospects of success were 100%.

Rhaidimiddim · 05/10/2025 12:08

Serenster · 05/10/2025 07:20

Pfft. As if his legal team didn’t need his instructions to introduce new evidence at this late stage in the proceedings.

Does anyone know if a lawyer can due their client for defamation? Sherborne seems to have ( at least) two instances now of sources for H making comments that imply he'd a negligent lawyer

IdaGlossop · 05/10/2025 13:07

Rhaidimiddim · 05/10/2025 12:08

Does anyone know if a lawyer can due their client for defamation? Sherborne seems to have ( at least) two instances now of sources for H making comments that imply he'd a negligent lawyer

I'd wager Sherborne is quite happy to go along with the status quo. He's making a mint, most people know Harry is a bear of little brain, and acting in high-profile cases is entertaining.

My2cents1975 · 05/10/2025 16:41

notimagain · 11/08/2025 09:36

@Puzzledandpissedoff

  • for me it's about time they were centred above everything else?

Agreed, but it increasingly appears to me as if PH's thinking is:

"I ask not what I can do for this charity, I ask what can this charity do for me?"

Edited

I do agree.

IMHO, Invictus is the big elephant in the room. It is unlikely that H would somehow behave differently at Invictus versus the other charities with which he is involved.