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Ohpleeeease · 07/08/2025 13:50

The Charity Commission is as independent and impartial as it’s possible to be. Unusually for a government department it doesn’t have a minister, so it’s also free from political interference.

They are very clear that their investigation work is evidence based. When they say they found “no evidence of…” that’s what they mean. Not “no sign of” but “no evidence of”. They said from the start they wouldn’t get into the internal dispute and they’ve been true to their word. They’ve given the current trustees an action plan to help them get their governance in order. They’ve given both sides a metaphorical slap. In Harry’s case maybe an actual one would have been more effective.

edited for typo

JSMill · 07/08/2025 13:56

Puzzledandpissedoff · 07/08/2025 12:34

In a rare moment of empathy for his wife it occurs to me it can't be easy to live witth either

We all get snippy about things at times, but between the family relationships, the failed initiatives, the pummelling in court and whatever the drugs are doing to his clearly fragile mind I don't imagine things are especially pleasant

I thought the same about M. It might have suited her to encourage his bitterness to create a rift between him and his family but I can’t believe it’s much fun living with him these days. Mind you him being angry with the UK establishment makes him even more likely to stay in California.

TheAutumnCrow · 07/08/2025 14:06

CoffeeCantata · 07/08/2025 12:02

Invictus is pretty much all he’s got left and he’s on thin ice with that.

Harry - dial back the Meghan involvement - no one at Invictus wants her and she’s leaching funds. If Birmingham actually comes off at all in the financial mess that city is in, it’s going to be H’s last chance to get things right in his charitable role.

Birmingham is in such a parlous financial state that it cannot afford to contribute a penny toward these games. Yet it will have to, including in staff time to fulfill its statutory obligations around stadium safety, licensing, planning, waste disposal etc.

That and the arrival of the Israeli IDF delegation in Birmingham - well, what can possibly go wrong?

TizerorFizz · 07/08/2025 14:28

The longer the interval between H being a working Royal and doing little in California, the less relevant he will be. The very rich move on and he hasn’t got much to offer. William needs to concentrate on his family and not be distracted by Harry.

MrsLeonFarrell · 07/08/2025 14:37

It strikes me that at this point the press must have "Prince Harry unhappy with" as a keyboard shortcut.

TheAutumnCrow · 07/08/2025 14:41

MrsLeonFarrell · 07/08/2025 14:37

It strikes me that at this point the press must have "Prince Harry unhappy with" as a keyboard shortcut.

😄

Tragically excellent!

ThePoshUns · 07/08/2025 14:49

MrsLeonFarrell · 07/08/2025 14:37

It strikes me that at this point the press must have "Prince Harry unhappy with" as a keyboard shortcut.

Haha yes!

JSMill · 07/08/2025 14:49

MrsLeonFarrell · 07/08/2025 14:37

It strikes me that at this point the press must have "Prince Harry unhappy with" as a keyboard shortcut.

🤣🤣🤣

IdaGlossop · 07/08/2025 15:13

If we rewind to the beginning of this saga, we will recall that Harry and his fellow Prince resigned as patrons of Sentebale. A patron who really cares about his mother's legacy would stay, take advice, and aim for reconciliation. He can cry as much as he likes: no-one has chucked him out of Sentebale; he chose to leave. In a near parallel event, he chose to leave the Royal family but still wants its trappings of privilege. What a fool he is.

IdaGlossop · 07/08/2025 15:41

IdaGlossop · 07/08/2025 15:13

If we rewind to the beginning of this saga, we will recall that Harry and his fellow Prince resigned as patrons of Sentebale. A patron who really cares about his mother's legacy would stay, take advice, and aim for reconciliation. He can cry as much as he likes: no-one has chucked him out of Sentebale; he chose to leave. In a near parallel event, he chose to leave the Royal family but still wants its trappings of privilege. What a fool he is.

Quite by coincidence, I have just read an article by Phil Dampier in The Sun saying this is Harry's pattern: something gets too difficult and he flounces off.

TizerorFizz · 07/08/2025 15:48

In March the bbc reported Harry had resigned. Later on in the article it says the charity hadn’t received his resignation. So when did he resign? The CC has not removed her and whether she can work with the new board and follow the action plan is what will matter now. Harry and his hangers on will just have to move on.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 07/08/2025 15:57

TheAutumnCrow · 07/08/2025 14:06

Birmingham is in such a parlous financial state that it cannot afford to contribute a penny toward these games. Yet it will have to, including in staff time to fulfill its statutory obligations around stadium safety, licensing, planning, waste disposal etc.

That and the arrival of the Israeli IDF delegation in Birmingham - well, what can possibly go wrong?

You're right about Birmingham of course, TheAutumnCrow, but as with the security demands I'm not sure Harry would care about anyone else's finances as long as there's an opportunity in it for him

Best just hope he doesn't spread his toxicity all over that too ...

Ohpleeeease · 07/08/2025 16:03

Puzzledandpissedoff · 07/08/2025 15:57

You're right about Birmingham of course, TheAutumnCrow, but as with the security demands I'm not sure Harry would care about anyone else's finances as long as there's an opportunity in it for him

Best just hope he doesn't spread his toxicity all over that too ...

I think it may be too late for IG. The trustees of Well Child may be starting to feel uncomfortable too.

TizerorFizz · 07/08/2025 16:38

@Ohpleeeease As he lost his security case, would he come anyway? It’s not official business is it? Or would they say it was?

Puzzledandpissedoff · 07/08/2025 16:43

Ohpleeeease · 07/08/2025 16:03

I think it may be too late for IG. The trustees of Well Child may be starting to feel uncomfortable too.

For Harry's involvement with them maybe, but hopefully not for the organisations themselves

For that, though, they might do better to be proactive and ease him out before a crisis arrives as it's done with others. He'd moan of course, but I'm not sure how much it would matter now he's discredited himself so thoroughly

Ladedahlia · 07/08/2025 16:45

IdaGlossop · 07/08/2025 15:41

Quite by coincidence, I have just read an article by Phil Dampier in The Sun saying this is Harry's pattern: something gets too difficult and he flounces off.

Meghan does that too though. They are both so precious and lazy.

TizerorFizz · 07/08/2025 16:52

What position does he hold in Well Child? It also depends if anyone complains. CEO of Sentebale started a court case. Well Child seems quiet?

jeffgoldblum · 07/08/2025 17:00

I read an article today that said both Harry and sensio are looking to see if they can separate sentable U.K. from sentable lo , if they can they will operate that part themselves! , I will see if I can find and post it!

Puzzledandpissedoff · 07/08/2025 17:00

He's a patron at Well Child too, @TizerorFizz: https://www.wellchild.org.uk/news-list/wellchild-patron-prince-harry-the-duke-of-sussex-to-attend-the-wellchild-awards-ceremony/

In a way it would be a shame to see him go because interaction with children is one of the few things he's any good at, but I'm thinking more of the price to pay these days if things don't go entirely his way

If he ever sorts his head out and gets back on track there's no reason why folk couldn't involve him in their causes again, but right now I'd certainly want the liability gone

Profhilodisaster · 07/08/2025 17:04

jeffgoldblum · 07/08/2025 17:00

I read an article today that said both Harry and sensio are looking to see if they can separate sentable U.K. from sentable lo , if they can they will operate that part themselves! , I will see if I can find and post it!

A source close to the two princes told Newsweek: "There are a lot of complexities to the governance structure of Sentebale, which means we're not entirely clear as to, for example, whether or not Sentebale in Lesotho is a separate organization and charity to Sentebale in the UK And it's something that Prince Seeiso is exploring."
If they legally divide, the pair could regain control of the charity's Lesotho division.

What would be the point though?

jeffgoldblum · 07/08/2025 17:15

Thedom · 06/08/2025 19:33

His latest ..... from 'a source'

https://www.newsweek.com/prince-harry-sentebale-charity-hostile-takeover-2109510

Harry had hoped the watchdog would force Chandauka out, a source told Newsweek, recognizing his own perspective that she was not fit to run Sentebale.

There is, though, a possible avenue for them to regain control of part of the charity, which is being actively explored.

A source close to the two princes told Newsweek: "There are a lot of complexities to the governance structure of Sentebale, which means we're not entirely clear as to, for example, whether or not Sentebale in Lesotho is a separate organization and charity to Sentebale in the U.K. And it's something that Prince Seeiso is exploring."

How the heck do they not know what the structure of Sentebale is? haven't they been running it for over 20 years?

Apologies @Thedom, I’m catching up and posted before I got to your post! 😳
this is the article I read! 🤣

Talltreesbythelake · 07/08/2025 17:32

The UK part is presumably the money raising side and the Lesotho side is the spending one. Taking away the UK is grabbing the funding. That is disgusting, even for PH.

jeffgoldblum · 07/08/2025 17:32

Profhilodisaster · 07/08/2025 17:04

A source close to the two princes told Newsweek: "There are a lot of complexities to the governance structure of Sentebale, which means we're not entirely clear as to, for example, whether or not Sentebale in Lesotho is a separate organization and charity to Sentebale in the UK And it's something that Prince Seeiso is exploring."
If they legally divide, the pair could regain control of the charity's Lesotho division.

What would be the point though?

Edited

Exactly and I may be wrong but isn’t sc based in Lesotho?

I hate to bring this up again but I find it really gauling that we have the righteous campaigner against racism ( even excepting an award) , publicly attacking a black woman , smearing her name and reputation and accusing her of jealousy towards Meghan! And subjecting her to a mass pile on by his flunkies.😡
why are the media not calling this out ?

Thedom · 07/08/2025 17:56

Sentebale not letting up ....

A source at Sentebale has told Sky News: "We have written to The Charity Commission stating that the onus is on the commission to restate for the record that individual allegations of bullying have not been investigated or addressed in the commission's report."

And a source for Harry ...

It's remarkable, just yesterday Ms Chanduaka was applauding the Charity Commission's findings, yet today, after a flurry of unflattering headlines, she's back on the warpath.

"Issuing yet another media statement only reinforces the commission's criticism about using the press to air internal disputes.

"Rehashing unsubstantiated allegations of bullying, misogyny and more, which the commission found no evidence of and dressing them up as veiled threats isn't just provocative, it's pitiful.

"If Ms Chanduaka has genuine concerns, she should spell them out plainly or, better yet, redirect her energy toward something truly worthwhile, like raising money for the children Sentebale exists to support."

"If Ms Chanduaka has genuine concerns, she should spell them out plainly", Please do Sophie !!!

"Issuing yet another media statement only reinforces the commission's criticism about using the press to air internal disputes. " The irony of Harry making this statement. LOL

Ohpleeeease · 07/08/2025 18:01

TizerorFizz · 07/08/2025 16:38

@Ohpleeeease As he lost his security case, would he come anyway? It’s not official business is it? Or would they say it was?

He seems to be able to manage his security concerns when it suits him.

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