Harry quits Sentebale

[Megamind76]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14973997/Prince-Harry-African-charity-racism-row-trust-Sentebale.html

Charity Commission report out.

The trustees would have to be completely in cahoots with it, and what’s in it for them?

If the goings on at Sentebale have taught us anything, it’s that Harry does as he pleases and he expects people to be ok with it “for the sake of the charity”. He is so used to people falling in line, that the situation with SC must have been a real shock to him. Woe betide anyone go against his wishes. He is now in a position with Sentebale where he has been out smarted and he’s played his hand badly, but it’s always going to be someone else’s fault.

Thanks for this, it perfectly illustrates the smoke and mirrors.

Someone on Twitter is asking when the $250,000 payment H&M made to Ashley Biden will be investigated.
Was this trying to buy access to the White House?

Yes I agree, and I have no doubts that Harry has been using and abusing his position in many regards for years.

I would just be surprised if that was as blatant as for him to donate (say) 500k to Sentebale, then insist that was donated on to African Parks, and so on to come back to Archewell. That would require a whole load of people to be deeply entrenched in blatant fraud for the sole purpose of lining Harry’s pockets, and as much as I think he gets away with an awful lot because of his royal connections, that would be a hell of a stretch, and very difficult for anyone to defend.

plus if this were happening, surely Sophie Chandauka would have spoken up about it - it would be dynamite!

I agree with you @elessar. I haven’t heard of it before and put it on here to see if anyone knew of it. I was more “surely not!” rather than “this is gospel”! Like I posted above, it’s shocking and disgusting if true. Although, I like you, don’t quite believe it. Even if it’s partly true, I don’t think it’s as simplified as made out on that x post. It’s too ouvert. I do however, suspect that H&M benefit more from these charities than the intended benefactors and there are absolutely dodgy shenanigans going on. The invictus accounts are very opaque for example and a lot of the expenditure sits under the umbrella of “charitable activities” with no details whatsoever.

@MummyJ12I totally agree - I’m sure they’re lining their pockets in every possible way.

I would dearly love someone to do an exposé on Invictus at some point or for a whistleblower to speak up, god only knows what’s going on there but nothing good I bet.

@Profhilodisaster - Just catching up , but if your previous long post was written by an ex serviceman - that is truly damning.

I just think that it's becoming increasing obvious Harry loved being a front man prince when every one else organised things for him but on his own or even with M - he can't do it. He may have been born a prince but he wan't born with many other talents or attributes it would seem. & Having "stepped away" is he just realising how much he was supported and protected ?

I suspect indeed not - it's all an establishment / CC stitch up. 😂

As Captain Mainwaring might say - " Stupid boy "

I’ve been banned from posting there using four different IPs, which is amusing considering how well freedom of expression is upheld on a supposedly progressive and liberal site.

But entirely consistent with supporters of Harry, who disagrees with the First Amendment

Have just been reading one of the articles on Prince Andrew, linked from the thread on the Yorks - it's the one about William and Harry not getting on with him.

https://archive.is/aQTae

This extract stood out to me:
In his book Mr Lownie reveals the depth of the Duke of York's breathtaking sense of entitlement including his dream to prevent Charles becoming King after his marriage to Diana failed and he planned to wed Camilla Parker-Bowles.
Andrew is even alleged to have lobbied his own mother to allow Prince William to take the throne with him as his Regent in the event that she died.

It reads very like Harry's own idea of 'joint kings' - despite the clear hierarchy apparently Andrew thought this could happen. I wonder if this encouraged Harry's thought process?

It reads very like Harry's own idea of 'joint kings'

When and where has he mentioned this?

I've been trying to find where I read it and I can't, sorry. It was a while ago.

I think the context was something like a boyhood agreement between the brothers, with William outgrowing it but Harry unhappy. Now hoping I haven't totally imagined it so hope someone can help with a source
(or tell me I've imagined it 😟)

I’m wondering if it’s back to 2012 when an article had a source saying
“William and Harry know that when they join forces it has a great effect. They honestly believe they can make a difference working as a team and want to stay together as a team for the rest of their lives”.

Possibly.

I did a bit of searching (was a late night) and couldn't find it. I did find several references to William not wanting to be king when younger, Harry saying he would do it, and Diana calling him 'Good King Harry' - all of which I would expect to be taken as normal family banter. There are several times Diana is recorded as saying she thought Harry would make a better king (due to personality) but I don't see anywhere that she didn't expect WIlliam to be king. (Not sure how that comment would help William!)

I did find an old MN comment referring to an interview Harry had given in his twenties which mentioned that he and William were planning to do monarchy 'differently' to the Queen and Prince Charles. I haven't seen the interview. Perhaps someone else has.

I too remember an article @bluegreygreen. It was about Harry wanting to jointly manage the Duchy of Cornwall as he didn’t like the idea of William deciding what money he should receive .

I too remember reading this!
cant think of where though.

I am going out soon but will try to check later .

I read an article saying similar a number of years ago.

But to me it sounded like, as small boys, William and Harry had planned a fantasy kingship with them both king together, in the same way children might plan to live in a treehouse full time with mum bringing food to put in the basket to wind up each day, or little girls promise each other to be bridesmaids.
I'm sure we all remember doing similar as children, but we don't hold people to it as adults because we recognise it for what it is: children's make-believe.

And Harry had taken this seriously as an adult.

That would explain a lot. He had already been feeling like this, then M comes along and she’s not happy about her purse strings being controlled by her BIL and encourages H’s sense of resentment. After all, the original Megxit statement referenced the desire to make money independently. It is, to the rest of us, a very odd idea that your family or in laws could control your finances but the upside is you get to live a very comfortable life with none of the money worries the rest of us have.

I’m smiling wryly at this. I wonder what Harry was envisioning in terms of ‘managing the Duchy of Cornwall’ - would an hour a week be OK, do you think?

I see Harry is again focussing on AIDS in children.

I recall Dr Sophie saying that Sentebale had expanded from that initial area to incorporate other problems. Again it seems that it is about him and his ideas as opposed to being able to take an objective view on this in order to improve the overall situation. Perhaps it is his focus on his mother again ?

Times have moved on . UNICEF, UNAIDS and WHO have a comprehensive programme dedicated to this under the umbrella of the Global Alliance to end AIDS in children by 2030. Why does Harry dilute these efforts and not join forces with existing causes?

Yes. You are right. It’s about H and his feelings, not the best direction for the charity. I wonder if there will be similar problems with Invictus.

The cynic might think he is trying to dilute Sentebale's income stream.

I remember it being said on here that it was rather foolish of Meghan to push that woman out of the way on the polo podium. We assumed she didn’t know who she was and of course it turned out to be the formidable Sophie Chandauka.
And hasn’t THAT come back to bite her/them on the backside.

You don't need to be a cynic for that, notimagain, and you don't even need the crap so many tabloids spout ... just his own behaviour and words whenever he fails to get his own way will do it

It was awful both in itself and for the optics. It was Harry’s event and his charity. From what I understand, Meghan inserted herself by arriving with not only Serena W, but with a NF filming team in tow. This caused ructions with the venue who’d given Sentebale special charity rates for the day, and subsequently and understandably queried this on the basis that it was clearly a commercial enterprise on H & ‘s part unconnected with Sentebale itself.

Then for Meghan to a) insert herself on the stage and b) start telling the actual Sentebale line-up where to stand was outrageous.

But it was really just that that Sophie was jealous of Meghan, wasn’t it?

Of course it was.