The yorks , new book by Andrew Lownie !

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apparently the author will be serialising his new book in the dm weekly!
thought we might like to follow the snippets 😁

They don't tend to openly criticise each other. We don't know what goes on behind closed doors.
The only one who has made a business of criticising them is Harry, but he has strangely omitted Andrew from his list of complaints and criticisms

Re Royal Lodge , I agree with @IcedPurple upthread , PA has been granted a lease which will outlive him. I think to get him out it will have to be a technicality - so eg he cannot afford to pay for keeping it in good order. I don't know how accurate this report is but does mention he can only pass on the lease to his daughters. But it is Crown Estate property so if he doesn't keep it up to snuff ( exterior and the interior - which I think has furniture , paintings etc from the Royal Collection) that might be a reason to break the lease. Passing it on to B & E I think is as Cloud Cuckoo Land as H passing on the Invictus Games to Archie.

It will be a slow train coming but I bet PA will be out of that house sooner than he would like. I think KC has started moves - PW may be more hard-nosed.

ETA I suspect part of H ignoring A in Spare is A was pretty much villified already so he was going for the bigger guns.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cly3k28w31zo

Yep! 👍

I suspect it’s as simple as: H& M are or were friends with the York princesses. I’m sure Harry avoided criticism of Andrew for that reason, which, while understandable, is very inconsistent!

It will be interesting to see what Ghislaine Maxwell has to say about Andrew if and when she testifies about Epstein.

I doubt she will say anything tbh.

Not read whole thread yet but none of it surprising. I just hope William can see how hopeless Andrew and Harrys lives are and does better by his children. Ensuring the younger 2 are set up with successful careers and private funds so not having to go cap in hand to their brother for money. They shouldn't have to wait for crumbs. Of course I think A & H are lazy bastards who wouldn't want to do a days work. Both HMTQ and KC knew Andrew was a waster they should have taken steps to stop harry going the same way.

H&M are friendly with the whole York family and have holidayed with them. They were prominent at the wedding. I think they're very intertwined. By contrast, Fergie wasn't even invited to W&K wedding.

The only one who has made a business of criticising them is Harry, but he has strangely omitted Andrew from his list of complaints and criticisms

I'm sure Charles criticised is parents a little bit? But yes odd no mention of A by H.

his not is!

H&M are friendly with the whole York family and have holidayed with them. They were prominent at the wedding. I think they're very intertwined. By contrast, Fergie wasn't even invited to W&K wedding.

The lack of invite for Fergie always struck me as odd.

Not quite in the same league as Harry and certainly not for dosh 😂!
Yes, Harry's failure to criticise Andrew is peculiar. Perhaps he offered to share lip balm with Meghan so is above rebuke in Harry's eyes.
I suspect there are other reasons that Andrew is untouched by Harry's bitterness and vengeance.

Did H criticise Anne or Edward?

William doesn't like or trust her.

I didn't say it was in the same league just that criticism isn't completely a new thing....

William doesn't like or trust her.

Oh right, wasn't aware of that. Why not?

We probably all have our individual opinions as to why fenella! , I imagine many of us probably the same!

She was already divorced from Andrew, and ex spouses aren't usually invited. Mark Phillips never was, for example. Then Fergie started with her money making schemes. Unfortunately he had to invite Andrew and the daughters.

I think so. It will all come out.

Then Fergie started with her money making schemes.

Oh yeah, she's definitely a bit embarrassing!

I saw her interviewed about those Mills &,Boon books she writes. My cringe levels were off the scale but I couldn't look away...

The video of Sarah Ferguson accepting cash was released in May 2010, about 11 months before William and Catherine’s wedding in April 2011. She was caught accepting £40,000 from a fake Sheikh in exchange for saying she would provide access to Prince Andrew. This scandal seriously damaged her reputation and likely contributed to William’s distrust of her. Plus, Prince Philip — who already didn’t like her — was still alive and attended the wedding.

Ah, yes. Thank you. It was the bag of cash for access to Andrew. You're right.

I think for many years PP wouldn’t be in the same room as Fergie.

It’s puzzling why Sarah Ferguson hasn’t been subjected to the same level of scrutiny as Prince Andrew, given her own controversies. For instance, she reportedly borrowed £15,000 (about $20,000) from Jeffrey Epstein in 2010, a fact that came to light during investigations into Epstein’s activities—yet she hasn’t faced comparable backlash. Add to that the sting operation I mentioned earlier, where she accepted £40,000 in exchange for offering access to Prince Andrew. And this is only what is known because they got caught.

I’ve always thought Fergie was bloody awful. I can’t understand how she’s inveigled her way into public affection recently.