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StartupRepair · 15/07/2025 21:48

Oh dear Harry. How many times can he go to 'Africa' (I doubt he could find the different countries on a map) and channel Diana?

Ohpleeeease · 15/07/2025 22:26

StartupRepair · 15/07/2025 21:48

Oh dear Harry. How many times can he go to 'Africa' (I doubt he could find the different countries on a map) and channel Diana?

One good thing is that at H’s request (for which read demand) Halo have banned the UK press from covering the speeches, so we won’t see much about it in the UK media, other than what is reproduced from other sources. It does rather defeat the object of raising awareness in order to drive increased funding from the Angolan government but presumably someone will have explained that to him.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 15/07/2025 22:33

Ohpleeeease · 15/07/2025 22:26

One good thing is that at H’s request (for which read demand) Halo have banned the UK press from covering the speeches, so we won’t see much about it in the UK media, other than what is reproduced from other sources. It does rather defeat the object of raising awareness in order to drive increased funding from the Angolan government but presumably someone will have explained that to him.

Yet he runs to the. “Bridish Press” for every perceived slight, but something that actually matters he demands they don’t cover it, what is wrong with him??

Vespanest · 15/07/2025 22:46

Again this repeatedly shows the position that Harry has put Charles in. A Prince of the United Kingdom who Charles sent his representatives to meet last week is now with another Government leader instructing and enforcing that UK media cannot have access to him. How can Charles have any relationship with a person actively criticising (even if deserved in the case of the media) the country he is head of state. Bearing in mind much of the negativity is now from the US media and he resides in a country of free press.

MummyJ12 · 15/07/2025 22:46

He’s such an idiot.

MummyJ12 · 15/07/2025 22:53

An illustration of my earlier post/point. This is how the Sussex Squad love to twist things to make the Wales family look bad. Even when it involves an innocent 11 year old boy. Some will have the opinion that they wouldn’t be worried about one Sussex Squad member at Wimbledon who is obviously stalking this poor family…but these people are absolutely bonkers. It’s not a squaddie post but someone pointing out the harassment. (I wouldn’t do that to you guys!)

https://x.com/mari_2527/status/1945192563914445144

DuskyPink1984 · 15/07/2025 22:54

I have a feeling something’s afoot. H&M wanted a half in/half out, Queen Elizabeth II wouldn’t/was advised wasn’t possible. I think things are not going to work long term financially for H&M in California and I think King Charles might agree to the half in/half out they desired.

I could be wrong but I feel it could be so. It’ll be a lengthy process with some very good PR!

Ohpleeeease · 15/07/2025 22:57

Vespanest · 15/07/2025 22:46

Again this repeatedly shows the position that Harry has put Charles in. A Prince of the United Kingdom who Charles sent his representatives to meet last week is now with another Government leader instructing and enforcing that UK media cannot have access to him. How can Charles have any relationship with a person actively criticising (even if deserved in the case of the media) the country he is head of state. Bearing in mind much of the negativity is now from the US media and he resides in a country of free press.

These are nuances that government would consider, and advise on. Harry’s PR team aren’t remotely equipped to deal with the political sensitivities.

I don’t have any objection to him visiting in his private non royal capacity, but this is where having a royal title is problematic. I don’t know what name he would adopt if he wasn’t Prince Harry but he really shouldn’t be using that title for foreign visits where he’s seeking to influence a foreign government’s funding.

Vespanest · 15/07/2025 22:58

DuskyPink1984 · 15/07/2025 22:54

I have a feeling something’s afoot. H&M wanted a half in/half out, Queen Elizabeth II wouldn’t/was advised wasn’t possible. I think things are not going to work long term financially for H&M in California and I think King Charles might agree to the half in/half out they desired.

I could be wrong but I feel it could be so. It’ll be a lengthy process with some very good PR!

He doing a piss poor attempt at convincing a return would be possible.

DuskyPink1984 · 15/07/2025 23:02

Vespanest · 15/07/2025 22:58

He doing a piss poor attempt at convincing a return would be possible.

We’ll see. They’ll do what they want, anyway. A lot of people still don’t accept Camilla as Queen.

Ohpleeeease · 15/07/2025 23:06

DuskyPink1984 · 15/07/2025 22:54

I have a feeling something’s afoot. H&M wanted a half in/half out, Queen Elizabeth II wouldn’t/was advised wasn’t possible. I think things are not going to work long term financially for H&M in California and I think King Charles might agree to the half in/half out they desired.

I could be wrong but I feel it could be so. It’ll be a lengthy process with some very good PR!

The only way I can see this happening is if William supported it, which he might do. Realistically there are too many commitments for too few royals to fulfil, especially once the Government start asking for more overseas tours.

I think if Harry would agree to do some tours on his own, in return for money and security, everyone might be persuaded. If he wants to include Meghan Markle, not a chance.

Vespanest · 15/07/2025 23:09

DuskyPink1984 · 15/07/2025 23:02

We’ll see. They’ll do what they want, anyway. A lot of people still don’t accept Camilla as Queen.

Camilla is unlikely to undermine the role of a constitutional monarchy by involving herself in politics and make demands on foreign leaders.

HonoriaBulstrode · 15/07/2025 23:25

I think King Charles might agree to the half in/half out they desired.

Why on earth would he?

I think if Harry would agree to do some tours on his own, in return for money and security, everyone might be persuaded.

Why would they be?

Anyway, it's not up to H or the King. The RF undertake official foreign visits at the behest of the government.

jeffgoldblum · 15/07/2025 23:49

HonoriaBulstrode · 15/07/2025 23:25

I think King Charles might agree to the half in/half out they desired.

Why on earth would he?

I think if Harry would agree to do some tours on his own, in return for money and security, everyone might be persuaded.

Why would they be?

Anyway, it's not up to H or the King. The RF undertake official foreign visits at the behest of the government.

Yes some people still think the king ( or queen) has more power than they do ( just like Harry) , Charles can ask ( I doubt it myself) but ultimately the government decides if harry can have an official role in the country again , all Charles can unilaterally offer him is a place in the private family.

Ohpleeeease · 15/07/2025 23:52

HonoriaBulstrode · 15/07/2025 23:25

I think King Charles might agree to the half in/half out they desired.

Why on earth would he?

I think if Harry would agree to do some tours on his own, in return for money and security, everyone might be persuaded.

Why would they be?

Anyway, it's not up to H or the King. The RF undertake official foreign visits at the behest of the government.

The only reason I think Harry might be given a job, and I stress it’s a very slim one, is because Charles is faced with the impossible task of covering overseas tours requested by the FO and nurturing the Commonwealth without much back up.

Ordinarily the Waleses would be first in line, but we know the tours can be gruelling so Catherine is unlikely to manage them for a while, and William may not want to leave her to do them solo.

The Edinburghs have been picking up the slack but there’s only so much they can do.

Charles himself has health limitations, as does Camilla.

The idea of bringing Andrew on board is unthinkable.

I personally wouldn’t want to see Harry back in the fold as though nothing had happened, but it’s not me having to shoulder the work. William may decide that discretion is the better part of valour and having Harry abroad on a tour is less trouble than having to deal with him at home.

HonoriaBulstrode · 16/07/2025 00:05

But could be be trusted not to shoot his mouth off inappropriately while on a foreign tour? At least now if he's indiscreet or inappropriate he's not representing King or country and everyone knows he's not.

StartupRepair · 16/07/2025 00:19

He made a tv program calling the Commonwealth 'Empire 2.0'. How on earth could he visit any part of it as the King's representative?

BigWillyLittleTodger · 16/07/2025 00:46

There will just have to be less royal ‘tours’ we are constantly being sold the narrative of a slimmed down monarchy and the result of that will have to be less engagements abroad, they don’t need a roving Harry touring the globe, and if by an extreme long shot he became a working royal again he can do the grunt work, opening the new refuse centre in Norwich or the new sewage plant in Hull, why on earth should he get the glamorous stuff jetting abroad and meeting world leaders,? there is no way Meghan wouldn’t elbow her way in to ‘accompany’ him whilst advertising her latest pancake mix, the whole idea is just preposterous! as the Queen rightly said you are either in or out, you cannot have working royals representing our country and government whilst promoting their own commercial ventures, it’s completely untenable it would be the death knell to the monarchy.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 16/07/2025 00:50

Plus overseas royal tours are not like they were in the 1950’s where the Queen was away for months at a time, now it’s whistle stop tours, fly in for a few days and fly out, they are not as gruelling as they used to be, those tours are of a bygone era.

Vespanest · 16/07/2025 01:33

Imagine the bill of a foreign tour being landed on a senior civil servant's desks for all that is needed to then be told that Harry is refusing to give any media unless agreed by him. He'd rather have the tour showcased in the US than the UK. The BBC relying on The People magazine for news reports. Extra money aside as Meghan may or may not attend. Harry would need to do the shit stuff before he'd be let anywhere near the diplomatic stuff. It would take years. I don't think Harry would pass an allegiance to king and country evaluation.

BemusedAmerican · 16/07/2025 01:46

It would be very unwise to take Harry in and let him do final tours.

I'm an American and I don't think it is a good idea for your government.

FightingFish · 16/07/2025 02:30

No one would seriously want him representing this country abroad, that would just be embarrassing.

BemusedAmerican · 16/07/2025 04:50

If he's barring the press, how do we know that he is really visiting Angola? He could standing in a studio in LA in front of a green screen while the photo and video are falsified.

OlympicWomen · 16/07/2025 06:48

BemusedAmerican · 16/07/2025 01:46

It would be very unwise to take Harry in and let him do final tours.

I'm an American and I don't think it is a good idea for your government.

Don't worry, the Foreign Office isn't that stupid as to think that representation by Harry is a good idea! 😂

LadyJaneGrey18 · 16/07/2025 07:04

OlympicWomen · 16/07/2025 06:48

Don't worry, the Foreign Office isn't that stupid as to think that representation by Harry is a good idea! 😂

Let’s hope so. Harry is very bored and very mentally unwell is my view. He’s desperate to be let back in the fold but only for purely selfish reasons. He’ll never be allowed to represent the RF in any capacity again. I also think the scandals and controversy surrounding African Parks and Sentabale have left him without much that allows him to claim to be a ‘humanitarian’ , so he’s casting about for other things to make him look more relevant. The two of them are in free fall.

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