Talks for reconciliation

[LadyJaneGrey18]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-14899657/King-Charles-Prince-Harry-aides-meet-London-secret-peace-summit.html

What to make of this??

Yes I agree. I don't think that the Royal family as an institution have anything to worry about from Harry. He has so throughly trashed his own reputation he has no credibility at all.

On a personal level I do hope they can find some reconciliation as a family because in a purely human level it can't be nice to have this split when they used to be so close. But even then the longer this goes on the more the family will be used to it.

Which is maybe why this meeting? They haven't enough to offer to really breakthrough in the US so they are trying to unburn their bridges here.

Yes, I definitely think so too. I think Meghan has more or less put royal life behind her (except for the titles obviously). It was such a short period in her life after all, albeit the one that made her rich and globally famous.

But I don't think Harry fully realises that he's no longer 'royal' anymore. Sure, he's still the King's son but in itself that's not terribly meaningful. He does seem to think his random 'appearances' are 'royal engagements' and that he's entitled to the same perks, esp security, which he had as a working royal. He's living in his own little world in that fugly mansion.

But only for KC’s sake, as an elderly man whose health isn’t good. I don’t think there’s any way back with William and Catherine and Camilla has no reason to have any truck with Harry- he’s shown that he detests her and she has her own son and daughter - she doesn’t need Harry in her life.

I personally don’t think anyone does, but I do see that for Charles, with all the history and guilt he might still feel, he may need some kind of peace to be established. As long as it’s just him, and on a totally personal, private level…and he’ll still need to be wary and take advice on any future contact with Harry.

Absolutely! He is deluded if he thinks he’s still a royal prince carrying out official engagements. He clearly misses it though. What a silly, mixed-up man-child he is.

I'd be fine with Harry a few rows back at royal events. If we have to put up with Andrew then Harry should at least get a seat. I was mostly thinking of Charles, I think this really hurts him. But I'd also like to see Harry apologise to William and Catherine, the relationship may never be what it was but they deserve an apology and a promise to maintain privacy from now on.

All Harry is doing in mining his family for cash again.

1/ Moan, disparage and try to ruin the reputation of his family to provide content the world- got a book deal and a NF deal worth millions.

Now that gravy train has ended

2/Forgive, forget and make up with his family to provide content to the world - for however millions he’s planning on making next

I’m afraid I agree!
he hasn’t done or said anything to indicate that he is sorry for what he has done, yet again even this so called reunion with his family is all about him and what he wants.

@JSMill
I also find it hilarious that H feels he can dictate the terms of a reconciliation.

Do we know this is happening?

I don’t think there’s any way can be even the tiniest bit of progress with W and C, though, while Meghan is with Harry. They will see her (with justification) as the cause of the problem and someone they could never trust, or who would ever wish them well - basically, the enemy. They have nothing to gain and a huge amount to lose by letting her back into their lives.

I don’t wish a break-up on H and M, even though I think they’re horrible people. They’ve got young children and also - fool though he is - Harry clearly adores her. Yet If they remain together it very much limits what is possible with Harry’s family. I don’t see any solution- it’s not a happy scenario.

You have to wonder how Harry and Meghan’s’ PR people continue to screw up. Here they have some supposed new hot shot PR head, and a few weeks in, the PR spin is backfiring again. She is also coming across as another incompetent employee, wonder how she will manage to hold on to her credibility while working for the Sussex’s.

@Vespanest conditional trusts aren’t blackmail. I assume Charles is not going to completely cut Harry out of his will. Better to ensure the money comes in stages conditioned on his conduct, as far as that’s legally possible (I assume this sort of thing happens all the time in very wealthy families). If he doesn’t like the conditions, tough. Otherwise he gets his inheritance regardless and is therefore rewarded for being a shit to them all these years and into the future as well.

Whilst I don't think Meghan has helped the situation, Harry was clearly full of entitlement and resentment of William years before he met her. Previous girlfriends have talked about his anger issues and stinginess which is all of a piece with this obsession with money he has. I am increasingly of the opinion that the split would have happened whoever he married. We may have believed the cheeky chappie PR but it was clearly just that, PR, masking who Harry really is.

Maybe, just maybe , it used beginning to dawn on Harry how irrelevant he is becoming . The very photogenic Wales children will be seen more and more then it will be girlfriends/ boyfriends .
Harry will be as irrelevant as Andrew.

Isn’t it the case they don’t listen, though? They hire staff and pay them enormous salaries to advise them, and then do what they want anyway. All the “men in grey” complaints (actually people looking out for you and the institution) have probably just transferred onto the new staff. The main role of the staff is to provide an “office” of people to make them feel and look important enough to warrant all that manpower. Just as with MM was non too subtly putting it out there that her poxy cooking show needed 80 crew members - it makes her feel important that she has all those people serving her.

I think its probably also clicked that they wont ever reach the A list in their own rights and live that lifestyle they crave. Staying in the RF even if they took a step back and lived in the US they would have guaranteed relevance on a plate and could have gone to events and had financial security without having to worry about these failed projects (like the cookbook and invictus etc they could have done this sort of work they are allegedly passionate about still but just wouldnt have been able to line their own pockets).

Let's not forget how mad Harry is eg Harry in 2022 talking about the late Queen " I'm making sure she's protected and got the right people around her"

I wonder if they all had to bow/ curtsy and call her ma’am ?

We are going to have to agree to disagree, there is no relationship to be had if you are creating trust funds or conditions to silence your child (Harry and meghans have accused the "institution" of silencing them before). Or NDAs or others' suggestion of recording every conversation I'd even argue a copy of the fund with them sorts of stipulations may even be worth more than the trust funds especially if these conditions includes the children's trust funds. These funds are not huge in the mega rich sense. It's fits Harry's and Meghans narrative and proof that the institution does control its members. It would be a horrific look for the monarch

@onehorserace I do think that one line is one of the most egregious things he said about the RF and its leader at the time. Patronising, self important little git that he is. Harry would look like a complete dick saying those sorts of things now though about Charles. The inference about the Queen was that she was aged/not anll there and controlled by the Insect men, and were keeping him away from her. And at the time, he hadn’t completely spilled all his bile on his family. And frankly not many educated people believed he had a valid complaint , they just thought he sounded grandiose. All he’s ever said about Charles is that he’s in control and to blame for everything, eg, the notion he is controlling RAVEC. Well he can’t have it both ways! He either believes Charles is firmly in the driving seat or he isn’t. So if Charles isn’t seeing Harry, Charles is in control of that situation.

From the DM today, I guess the UK media are not so bad after all,

“The extraordinary summit came after Ms Maines, who is head of Harry’s household in Montecito, California, flew to the UK earlier in the week for a series of meetings alongside Mr Maguire, their new ‘UK and Europe communications manager'.

These included British business and charitable partners, as well as a host of London-based press and television journalists.

Their itinerary suggests that the couple - Harry in particular - are launching a new charm offensive on the UK in a bid to turn around their negative public image.”

Seriously! Head of Household! UK and Europe communications manager!
Delusions of grandeur

Oh my goodness - so it wasn’t just meetings between those 3 people in the pap pics? And if so why haven’t we had people falling over themselves to say they were at the meetings?

So, were any of these other meetings caught on camera or was it just the one with KC’s aide? How ‘very frustrating’ for the couple that it had to be this one.

I do hope they do the medieval tournament bow from Netflix! 😂