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AtIusvue · 14/07/2025 21:14

AtIusvue · 14/07/2025 21:07

Making it more obvious that the Sussex’s team called the papa. This is about Harry rehabilitating his image for commercial gain.

*called the paps.

RandyRedHumpback · 14/07/2025 21:18

Spectre8 · 14/07/2025 19:24

Oooohhh look at the rage on display right here....

At least @BigWillyLittleTodger makes interesting and valuable contributions to threads. Not just personal attacks on other posters.

NewAgeNewMe · 14/07/2025 21:20

AtIusvue · 14/07/2025 21:06

Harry’s sources talking to VF….of all publications

https://www.vanityfair.com/style/story/inside-the-rapprochement-meeting-between-king-charles-and-prince-harrys-press-teams

  • It was Harry that asked for the meeting (no shit)
  • As predicted, he wants to change that narrative around the type of stories written about him (era of joy anyone?)

The guy is so see through. It’s just to rehabilitate his image….nothing else. He’s not apologised for his behaviour. It’s just- he wants to move on, he wants stop fighting etc. This is because he’s tired of stories about the strained relationships with the RF being the only thing people are interested in.

It’s all just part of his future commercial venture and he needs a new positive image to sell whatever crap he’s going to flog. Just like Meg pivoted to her joy era. Harry is in his forgiveness tour.

Quelle surprise 😁

Vespanest · 14/07/2025 21:20

It's the "lawyers didn't tell me I had no chance again", imagine disclosing close family information and being surprised it's all anyone is interested in and your family isn't going to suck it up because you need a new narrative. If you're trying to make out you are not the leak it's best to shut up.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 14/07/2025 21:31

Thank you @RandyRedHumpback much appreciated ☺️

Not2identifying · 14/07/2025 21:39

It's so strange that VF and the DM have become H&M's go-to media outlets. I guess 'People' doesn't reach enough UK-based people (given that Bemused American has explained that people in the US are not really paying them attention).

Spectre8 · 14/07/2025 21:41

RandyRedHumpback · 14/07/2025 21:18

At least @BigWillyLittleTodger makes interesting and valuable contributions to threads. Not just personal attacks on other posters.

Hahah way to spin the attacks you all make on the pair. Mocking what she wears, her marriage and everything else abiut them. You keep telling yourself its just criticism if it makes you feel better

Oh and did you not see it was BigWilly who actually responded to a previous post of mine saying I was full of rage. So im just returning the same comment in kind. Since you think me saying it is an attack on another poster then why don't you call out BigWilly for attacking me first....but hey this us going to be the usual hypcrocrisy we see of posters like yourself........

Rhaidimiddim · 14/07/2025 21:44

Ohpleeeease · 14/07/2025 18:25

Charles will understandably want to be reconciled with his son. The King as Head of State has a duty to keep threats to the monarchy at bay. Someone is going to have to negotiate very delicately to manage those two conflicting interests.

I disagree that he would want to be reconciled with his son.
He might very well be glad to be finally rid of him.
Plenty of people here on MN are NC with close family members. They all realise that you can't change someone's character; and that, when they're toxic, best to hold the boundary.

RandyRedHumpback · 14/07/2025 21:47

Spectre8 · 14/07/2025 21:41

Hahah way to spin the attacks you all make on the pair. Mocking what she wears, her marriage and everything else abiut them. You keep telling yourself its just criticism if it makes you feel better

Oh and did you not see it was BigWilly who actually responded to a previous post of mine saying I was full of rage. So im just returning the same comment in kind. Since you think me saying it is an attack on another poster then why don't you call out BigWilly for attacking me first....but hey this us going to be the usual hypcrocrisy we see of posters like yourself........

If you can't understand plain English, that's not my fault.

RandyRedHumpback · 14/07/2025 21:53

I seriously doubt H&M will come back as working royals. They are not even remotely trustworthy, I imagine the security services have been monitoring their activities, and I don't think the British public will want to have much to do with them. I just cannot see Meghan wanting to return under any circumstances.

Harry (and his children) being able to see Charles should the worst happen is another story. That's a personal, family matter, and if that's what Charles wants, even if Harry is not doing anything to apologise or seek forgiveness for all of his vileness of the last 5 years, then that really is up to Charles. That goes for his funeral as well. At least Harry cannot complain that Camilla/Catherine/William kept him away from his father in his dying days. Harry's complaints about his life need to end with Charles. William is and never was responsible for his brother's upbringing and childhood experiences. If William can take up the throne without the hangover of Harry's issues with the previous generations, I think that can only be a good thing.

I am not naive enough to think the attacks on William and Catherine won't continue, not to mention their squad starting on the children. But if it does it will be based in pure spite and envy, not fueled by a perceived injustice over Charles's last days.

WRT AN Wilson, his tongue is always firmly in his cheek. He likened Spare to Mein Kampf after all!

OlympicWomen · 14/07/2025 21:59

Excellent post, @RandyRedHumpback 👌
Sadly, I don't think Harry will let it end with Charles. Harry has become a professional victim with arrested development, greedy, entitled and arrogant. The only thing he wants to do is revel in this persona and monetise it.

Mylovelygreendress · 14/07/2025 22:06

RandyRedHumpback · 14/07/2025 21:53

I seriously doubt H&M will come back as working royals. They are not even remotely trustworthy, I imagine the security services have been monitoring their activities, and I don't think the British public will want to have much to do with them. I just cannot see Meghan wanting to return under any circumstances.

Harry (and his children) being able to see Charles should the worst happen is another story. That's a personal, family matter, and if that's what Charles wants, even if Harry is not doing anything to apologise or seek forgiveness for all of his vileness of the last 5 years, then that really is up to Charles. That goes for his funeral as well. At least Harry cannot complain that Camilla/Catherine/William kept him away from his father in his dying days. Harry's complaints about his life need to end with Charles. William is and never was responsible for his brother's upbringing and childhood experiences. If William can take up the throne without the hangover of Harry's issues with the previous generations, I think that can only be a good thing.

I am not naive enough to think the attacks on William and Catherine won't continue, not to mention their squad starting on the children. But if it does it will be based in pure spite and envy, not fueled by a perceived injustice over Charles's last days.

WRT AN Wilson, his tongue is always firmly in his cheek. He likened Spare to Mein Kampf after all!

The Squad were unpleasant on X about Charlotte .

MrsLeonFarrell · 14/07/2025 22:07

"Harry’s hoping that things can be rectified, He really wants a relationship with his father. He wants to change the narrative and not have the family feud be the focus of most stories that are written about him,” a source told VF. “There’s also hope that this might be the slow burner leading up to the Invictus Games. It’s two years away, but it’s going to take some time to change the narrative. Harry’s hope is that there will be another meeting, although it depends on how things play out.”

In other words he doesn't want to be a working royal but he wants to be seen to have a relationshop with his father. He is all about himself, his status and is once again trying to control the public narrative.

I don't think Harry has ever grasped that the main PR problem he has is that what he did is so relatable and so reprehensible. He said unkind things about his family in public, he breached their privacy for money and accused them of dreadful behaviour without evidence. Family betrayal is something most can relate to and which must would condemn. His lifestyle, the house, jets, security battles, court cases etc is not his problem. His problem is that he hurt his family in a way that we can all sympathise with. If he wants any chance of changing the narrative in the papers he needs to apologise to his family, publically and believably.

Vespanest · 14/07/2025 22:13

It's easy for Charles and why he risks his relationship with William. Charles agrees to the meet, the meet gets leaked and Catherine becomes the social media defense by attack, I've seen some very nasty comments towards George and Charlotte today as well. It doesn't matter what the men do, you can guarantee the women get a kicking, and yes I include Meghan. It's absolutely crap.

RandyRedHumpback · 14/07/2025 22:15

Mylovelygreendress · 14/07/2025 22:06

The Squad were unpleasant on X about Charlotte .

Not surprised, the revolting lot. There really aren't the words to describe these people. Certainly something missing in their heads.

Ohpleeeease · 14/07/2025 22:18

Rhaidimiddim · 14/07/2025 21:44

I disagree that he would want to be reconciled with his son.
He might very well be glad to be finally rid of him.
Plenty of people here on MN are NC with close family members. They all realise that you can't change someone's character; and that, when they're toxic, best to hold the boundary.

True, but it’s rare to feel that way about your own child, however badly they’ve behaved.

Charles is a big avoider of confrontation so he’ll keep his distance as long as Harry is in attack mode but in terms of reconciliation I don’t think he’s thrown in the towel just yet.

HonoriaBulstrode · 14/07/2025 22:19

"Harry’s hoping that things can be rectified, He really wants a relationship with his father. He wants to change the narrative and not have the family feud be the focus of most stories that are written about him,” a source told VF.

Perhaps he should just STFU about it, then. No-one else is giving interviews or talking to the media about his relationship with his father and the 'family feud'. And while he's at it, stop speculating publicly about his father's health. No-one's going to tell him stuff if he's then going to tell the world. And I expect that was the message delivered to his representative at the meeting.

RandyRedHumpback · 14/07/2025 22:26

Vespanest · 14/07/2025 22:13

It's easy for Charles and why he risks his relationship with William. Charles agrees to the meet, the meet gets leaked and Catherine becomes the social media defense by attack, I've seen some very nasty comments towards George and Charlotte today as well. It doesn't matter what the men do, you can guarantee the women get a kicking, and yes I include Meghan. It's absolutely crap.

The Waleses can't win though. If Charles doesn't see Harry, then his followers will blame them. We have seen plenty of stories in their publications of choice about Catherine holding the key to reconciliation/ William demanding his father choose and all that guff. W&C are forever going to be in a PR war with the Sussexes, because I don't see them letting up. But Harry's main stick to beat his father and the Firm with has been Diana. He can't use that stick over William. So William's best bet for his own preservation is not to provide a new stick in the form of Charles. And let Harry have his moment over Charles' end and then fuck off back to the US and live his life there. William being able to take up the throne with the cleanest slate possible in the circumstances will be worth it.

IlovethedramaMick · 14/07/2025 22:30

Serenster · 14/07/2025 19:26

If it was team Sussex organising it and the Royal guy was surprised then I’d really question if he was up to the job. I think for both parties to sit outside they knew there’d be photos and wanted there to be.

It was a very out of the way location though! To get to where they met you walk down a narrow no-exit lane in St James, and then into a gated yard at the end of the lane. Then they were photographed having coffee at the back of the building, from the pathway that goes through Green Park. There are hedges and fences all the way down those back gardens that back onto Green Park (you can see this on Google street maps)

Clearly the photographer knew exactly they would be. There is no way a random photographer hangs out on a no thoroughfare lane on the off-chance someone of interest wanders down it, and then runs all the way round to Green Park and finds a gap in the foliage on the off-chance they walk through the building and sit out the back. And what random paparazzi would recognise communications staff for two different royals?

Oh yes I know the pap would have to have been pre-arranged. I think I thought it was a more public spot than it was, thanks for the description as that’s made it much clearer it was a very private place. I was thinking of a more public place where it would be naive to be pictured having a clandestine meeting with the representatives of the most indiscreet couple who are never far from a camera crew or pap walk.

OlympicWomen · 14/07/2025 22:35

Imagine the Sussex fans targeting Charlotte! Sadly, I'm not surprised that they pick on children

Vespanest · 14/07/2025 22:35

@RandyRedHumpback the biggest threat to the Waleses is Harry having any route into their life even through just meeting Charles. If Charles and Harry have a relationship it gives Harry credences to whatever he wants to say about William in the future and even George. He did it with the late Queen, so the chances are he'll do it with Charles.

Spectre8 · 14/07/2025 22:37

RandyRedHumpback · 14/07/2025 21:47

If you can't understand plain English, that's not my fault.

Lol so typical, presented with the facts thay your a hypocrite for having a pop at me for attaxkojfnposteds whilst silently letting bigwilly attack on me go by and you say nothing.

smilesy · 14/07/2025 22:40

Spectre8 · 14/07/2025 22:37

Lol so typical, presented with the facts thay your a hypocrite for having a pop at me for attaxkojfnposteds whilst silently letting bigwilly attack on me go by and you say nothing.

As Manuel would have said, “Que??” 😆

RandyRedHumpback · 14/07/2025 22:45

Spectre8 · 14/07/2025 22:37

Lol so typical, presented with the facts thay your a hypocrite for having a pop at me for attaxkojfnposteds whilst silently letting bigwilly attack on me go by and you say nothing.

Or write plain English.

FightingFish · 14/07/2025 22:51

This was a meeting of 3 PR ‘experts’ in a public space in one of the busiest corners of the world. I can only imagine that the meeting was about image rehabilitation and creating positive stories for PH to help him make money. Things like funeral plans and health updates would not be dealt with by these people but actual professionals in a discreet setting. Unfortunately PH comes across as a sad, bitter loser these days, so I can see the need for an image overhaul.

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