Talks for reconciliation

[LadyJaneGrey18]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-14899657/King-Charles-Prince-Harry-aides-meet-London-secret-peace-summit.html

What to make of this??

Literally 5 mins ago my DD poked her sibling in the waist because she wasn’t getting what she wanted (the sofa all to herself), sibling started crying - and DD got angry with me for telling her off. I come onto this thread and it’s exactly the same argument you’re making 😂. Sure Meghan and Harry can ponce about doing pointless and unproductive (arguably damaging) shit they like to call “philanthropy” or “entrepreneurship”. But when they get called out for doing pointless and unproductive and arguably damaging shit, they have their supporters and shills whining and complaining on their behalf for daring to call them out (why can’t you just stop attacking them!!), and go out themselves playing the victim. As I just said to DD: actions have consequences. If you don’t want the consequences, don’t do the thing in the first place. Nobody gets to do stuff and run away from the consequences.

That was in answer to YOUR question “When will people stop commenting about them?”

Well, you can’t say I don’t try!

But pigeon chess is a very tiring and pointless game, as I’m sure you are aware!

Well dont read about them then if it bothers you so much

Well don’t read these threads if it bothers you so much.

Never underestimate the mental gymnastics some bring into play, Starpleked; they'd probably insist H&M had only come back because the RF had graciously agreed to be taught lessons by them

At the end of the day none of us know what Meredith was here for, but it strikes me that meeting her could be a hostage to fortune for the RF ... because next time Harry whines that "they wouldn't talk", there's his representative in glorious colour for all to see

@HiRen

Totally!

The whining Sussex supporters here fail to understand that those who are critical of them don’t believe that a few rainbow fruit platters and flower sprinkles wipe out the memory of their nastiness 5 years ago. What they did was awful and it seriously damaged many people. Trying to pretend otherwise is not going to wash with anyone who looks beyond the surface of things.

The way the trust thing was worded was strange. Neil Sean reported that Harry was asking about trusts he believed the late Queen and his mother set up for him. If there were trusts he would know about them.

I don't think anyone really knows why the meeting was organised but I'm still of the opinion that only the Sussexes get anything out of leaking it.

I watched the final of the tennis on TV yesterday and couldn’t help but remember the day Meghan turned up and had a cordon of empty seats around her. She was in her element and couldn’t hide how giddy her sense of importance made her feel (not realising how stupid and looked).

And then we had the Wales family in attendance yesterday and the contrast between their attendance and Meghans couldn’t have been more different.

Im glad the squaddie was there to see the reception the family got, that they be had a lesson in the difference between the real thing and a Wannabee/s

And the antics of the squaddie/s - just why oh why are they so determined to show (apart from being vile) just how rough at the edges they are?

While I agree, much of it wasn't 5 years ago, @CoffeeCantata; it's gone on and on since then, with the unpleasant BBC interview only weeks ago, whatever's said as a result of the ANL case still to come, and possibly other surprises they may have in store

Clearly we can't know what's going on behind the scenes with the RF, but given Harry's loose interpretation of prior commitments he's made they'd be very foolish to take whatever his latest version is at face value, and doubly so if his real motivation is a need for money

I have no interest in sides, the RF can look after itself very well as the last 1000 years have shown, and Harry and Meghan have shown themselves to be uninteresting and inconsequential people with enormously inflated egos. I just am so irritated by the puerile antics of both my DC and H&M supporters (they’re the same). So illogical, so pointless, complete waste of time and energy: it’s like arguing with someone whose brain shuts off every thirty seconds and then blips back into action, saying the same thing and arguing the same points all over again except this time out of sequence. Round and round, again and again, like a malfunctioning robot programmed to do only one thing: argue, endlessly, about stuff that doesn’t matter. They don’t even know why they’re doing it.

Why was there a cordon of empty seats around her? Did she go more times than the time she went with Catherine?

Careful, this might get deleted 🤷‍♀️ ( I do agree though)

My imagined agenda items are to make the point that there are so many things they could have been talking about, but of course none of us knows what they actually did talk about.

Yes she went on her own in 2019and had about 39 seats cleared around her. Google Meghan Wimbledon empty seats

Yes, in 2019, a Serena Williams match. She and her friends had all the seats around them cleared. Members of the public were being told not to take photos (even when they weren't taking photos of her). The Wimbledon official who dealt with her told the Times she was a nightmare. It was widely reported at the time.

Exactly right.
I also think there will have been lots of items on the agenda and matters discussed, but we’ll never know.
It has people talking about it, pointing fingers and has grabbed headlines (especially the day after the Wimbledon final), so someone in camp Sussex will be over the moon. It’s a win win for Meghan.

The source quoted in the Telegraph article as decribing the summit is quoted as using the phrase "Harry and his father". Sounds rather Sussex- centric to me, as well as using that Sussex linguistic tic of never referring to other members of the RF using their title.
If the source had been BF, I don't think they could have avoided using the phrase "the King".

Well spotted @Rhaidimiddim ! That is a bit of a giveaway.

Also, H's lawsuit in trouble.
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I imagine, after Tobyn spotted the pap, that the majority of items on the agenda for discussion were immediately struck off and they were left with just talking about the weather! 😂

Remember the guy who got told off for taking a photo of her when he was actually taking a selfie of himself?! Honestly she looked like such a diva sitting like that. If that is how she behaves publicly, she must have been an absolute nightmare behind closed doors.

From the Mirror:

www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/prince-harry-pushes-royal-roadmap-35553712.amp

Prince Harry’s top aides have expressed the Duke of Sussex's desire to avoid ‘ambushing’ the royals in a bid to maintain regular communication with his cancer-battling father.
The olive branch came as senior staff for the King’s estranged son spoke with a palace official of a wish for a “roadmap for more regular communication” with his family. The meeting between Meredith Maines, the chief communications officer for Harry and Charles’ communications secretary, Tobyn Andreae, last Wednesday in London, comes amid His Majesty’s ongoing battle with cancer.
Liam Maguire, who oversees the Sussexes' UK press, was also present for the meeting at the private members’ club Royal Over-Seas League. Sources in the US have told the Mirrorthat although the summit was informal, it covered several critical issues.

They included opening the possibility of pre-briefings or courtesy notices for upcoming projects that might reference or attract attention for the Royal Family, an agreement to avoid undisclosed revelations during sensitive periods and coordination to avoid “clashing narratives” between Montecito and Buckingham Palace.
It is understood that Harry would like more direct updates on his father’s cancer treatment, after previously saying his father would not speak to him. Only in May, the Duke told the BBC he "would love a reconciliation" with the Royal Family, during an emotional interview in which he said he was "devastated" at losing a legal challenge over his security in the UK.

The insider said: “The issue with Harry, as well as Meghan, is one of trust. Ever since moving to North America, they have eroded all confidence in their ability to keep things or their criticisms private. For there to be any chance of moving forward, that trust has to be rebuilt, and Team Sussex knows the onus is on them. The Duke’s team are clear that if relations are to be repaired, there needs to be a roadmap for more regular communication on both sides.
They added: “There also needs to be more openness between London and California about the timings of events and an end to the ambushing of announcements. There is often a clashing of narratives, and that must stop if the royals and the Sussexes want to portray a closer sense of unity. It is, of course, a two-way street, however.”

👏👏.
Excellent bit of sleuthing.

I wonder if some Wagatha Christie games are afoot at the Palace, feed Harry bullshit and see if it ends up in the press, to test if he can be trusted again.

Ambushing of announcements? Clashing of narratives? I feel like H still feels he’s entitled to his own little royal court which is equal to his father and his brother. He still thinks he has a public role. I also find it hilarious that H feels he can dictate the terms of a reconciliation.

I know, what a jumped up little twerp he is. The RF have a published programme of official, state engagements. The Sussexes have jam launches and pay to play moaning sessions. They can do one if they think the RF have to consult them.