Opinions may Vary . A genuine question about why Meghan and Harry seem to attract such differing views.

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I post this more in hope than experience but I would be really interested in a proper discussion about those who are fans or supporters of them , those who aren't and indeed ( of which there are many ) , those who are indifferent.

So - I'll start. There was an interesting post on another thread which said M&H come over as David and Goliath , standing up against "the Institution" - my paraphrase.

No spitting , no fighting , mind the furniture 😂

Yes, I'm trying to work out what was "complicated" about it...

Yes that pretty much sums it up.

Yup the Oprah interview finished her for me too. Also, the fawning credulity of Oprah really jarred

They literally had to make up UK news headlines to use in the Netflix doc - one headline they used about Meghan called "Princess in Crisis" was actually from a US tabloid about Catherine . As well as using footage from a Harry Potter premier and Katie Price's court case to illustrate paparazzi interest in H&M. WRT to Oprah interview, the headlines she used at the start of the interview had to be censored out of the programme for UK audiences because they were effectively made up and lies. Articles on all this below.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-63837131

https://pressgazette.co.uk/news/meghan-headines-montage/

I have no idea if they are the worst, I just copied the negative ones off the first page. Lots of deletions but obviously I have no idea if they were attacking Meghan or other posters.

You said you “didn’t recollect much negativity. The threads on here, like the UK press, were very positive about them”. Another poster said she didn’t recall anyone on here saying Meghan was too American. I am refreshing your memories.

Well, it remains unrefreshed! "The pictures look very American!' 😂
They had a lot of positivity and support. I've no idea why you need to go scratching around for mild comments to disprove that.
Did you watch the wedding at all?

@RandyRedHumpback , that's beyond deceit, isn't it?
They are completely and shamelessly dishonest. The "critical headlines" on the Oprah interview were made up as well. Such liars.

@RandyRedHumpback As well as using footage from a Harry Potter premier and Katie Price's court case to illustrate paparazzi interest in H&M.

That bit made me really side eye the production team of that documentary.

One of the editors/producers had clearly typed into a stock video collection Harry Sussex paparazzi photographers, and without double checking, gone with the best two bits of footage which as you say were a Harry Potter premier press bank and the Sussex court footage of Katie Price!

I mean, if this was the worst things said about them on MN at the time - they are very lucky indeed! The last one sounds like your typical republican. The others are about not liking photos - a matter of personal taste.

@RandyRedHumpback , but, but, but..... someone said that the pictures "looked very American"!.😵

So. They couldn't find pap harassment pictures. They couldn't find negative headlines.
So they made them up.

You know, I hadn't made that connection. That's truly amateurish! But the truth of the matter is, there was no paparazzi harassment of H&M in the UK.

X post with @MadeInGrimsby !

Again, it is not about truth. It is about creating a narrative and either retrofitting real incidents or inventing imagined incidents to support the narrative.

For example, the Netflix reality series included footage of a Harry Potter premier, Katie Price at court and Catherine and Diana being physically harassed by photographers.

There was zero footage of the alleged harassment of M.

Off with their heads!!!

Interesting that this thread has turned the same as all the others

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Well unless someone articulates their personal reasons for supporting H&M and provide some tangible supporting evidence, what do you want people to talk about?

None whatsoever.
The only time they've been papped is in Canada and the USA.

I actually think this was more likely to be a mistake by someone on the production team than a deliberate attempt to mislead because it was so easily exposed. It sounds like something that a junior member of the team was tasked to find and then no one did a second pair of eyes checking the footage.

The problem was starting with the premise that they'd been regularly chased by paparrazi - there was no evidence of that happening in the UK - from either side. No video of being chased by paps and no pap pictures appearing of them.

Compare to the harassment Kate and Diana used to get with big packs of photographers following them and yelling at them.

Interesting that this thread has turned the same as all the others

I'm mostly indifferent to them - they are hardly that relevant to anyone.

Then you remember all their endless lies from them and their supporters and it does get much more annoying.

On the day of the wedding I was travelling from Italy to Switzerland by train and I’d timed my trains around the wedding so I’d be able to watch it online. I made myself comfy on the train and when the wedding started I turned my ipad towards the people I was sharing the table with and before we knew it others came from different parts of the carriage and we watched the wedding together. People were so good with each other and they’d have a few minute before making way for others who’d then watch for a few minutes before moving over for even more people. We were of various nationalities and it was a lovely trip. Everyone was so happy.

Well, whichever way you look at it - it's a lie.
That dishonesty has become their hallmark.
True about Kate and Diana.

Meghan was forcing Harry’s hand . According to people more in the know than me , Meghan wanted to hurry things along and threatened to leave if he didn’t issue a statement. Knowing what we know now about Meghan’s relationship with the truth , I am pretty sure some stuff would be exaggerated.
If i remember correctly the then POW was undertaking an important visit and the statement ( which he was advised not to issue) did not go down well.