The marching of the Kings californian grandkids

[Thedom]

Wish I could go back and find all those posters who predicted a Kardashian-esqe social media blitz at some point in H&M's future, wonder where are all the posters who we're so affronted by the very idea of that.

People magazine and all, the uber celeb magazine.

I guess needs must with the downfall of her business efforts, \oh look, here are my kids whose privacy we have decided to forego for the greater good of taking the heat off what a crap business woman I am'.

What about Duchy Originals? What about Royal Warrants? Do you think they they pay full price for all of their Land Rovers? Or for all of their Fortnum and Mason goodies?

The difference is that Royal family members don’t personally profit from Duchy originals or Royal Warrants. And I don’t for a moment imagine they buy Land Rovers, they will lease them (or rather the Royal Household will lease them on a collective basis) and any commercial fleet leasing arrangement is heavily negotiated. I do expect they pay retail price for their sundry purchases. We have heard from retailers for example that they don’t ask for discounts for off the rack clothes.

I wish we could have a heading on every Harry&Meghan thread with the “Sussex Royal” statement.

Supporters never fail to forget the Canada interlude. They just jump straight to Montecito (omitting Tyler Perry’s mansion - and the fact that their “private” sojourn there was leaked to the Press by Meghan herself - LAPD provided proof) - and all the malarkey about Freedom.

OK, I can get on board with the argument that Harry thought the rf would be welcoming him back a la Prodigal Son - but doesn’t this fly in the face of Supporters’ determination that the rf are so evil - and all of Britain too - that Harry was fleeing with Meghan to get away from it all?

@Plasticcheeeandgherkins

“I think the two of them are doing well for just getting out of bed in the morning considering the onslaught of negativity that is directed at them globally atm, never mind grinning from ear to ear.
It must be really to read endless negative stories and comments about yourself and be subjected to that level of scrutiny. Like them or loathe them, I think they deserve credit for at least trying to move on with their lives.”

Others have answered your whole post much better than I could but I wanted to pick you up on a couple of things .
Meghan wants fame and money . She has made that crystal clear all her life . She was apparently delighted with the response to the twerking video ( shudder ). That was posted for one purpose and one purpose only - to get people talking . She wants headlines . The last thing she wants is a quiet life.
Harry wants what Meghan wants so goes along with the nonsense.
As for moving on with their lives- they cling on to their Royal titles and have even inflicted them on their DC . Harry is desperate to be reconciled with his family plus seems to think his DC can decide to be working Royals !?

And the little detail that came out about in the RAVEC trial about him discovering that other governments had been asked not to give him security kind of shows what he is up against.

Of course government diplomacy works like that. Civil servants in one country make it known to civil servants in other countries what would be acceptable to them. It’s quid pro quo.

@Plasticcheeeandgherkins IPP status is internationally recognised in law (UN convention). I linked to the UK Act of Parliament ratifying it in a previous post.

It's not going to be changed by civil servants wanting to do someone a favour.

Oh no.

Meghans PR momentum scuppered again. Last time it was the delay of her show because of the LA fires. Now her red carpet appearance at an awards ceremony is delayed because of the LA riots/immigration crackdown/curfew

Megs, I think the universe is telling you something……

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14799601/amp/Meghan-Markle-cancelled-LA-Museum-gala-honor-warzone.html

I think with Trump in power for the next few years, California is going to be a big target for him. Maybe she should consider moving out of state….otherwise I can see more delays.

Other countries do it all the time when other dignitaries pass through their airports and cities. They don’t usually want to be responsible for someone else’s PM or King being blown up or attacked on their watch.

Maybe she will do a tour of the wreckage of the riots, you know, just to shoehorn herself into the situation.

Or maybe supplying care packages to those involved in the clean up?you know she can’t bloody resist.

Or maybe the whole ICE immigrant crackdown thing is too close to home….and they want to kee p their heads down because of Harry and his unknown visa status

Oh dear 😬

Harry isn't a 'dignitary' though.

He's an extra in his wife's twerking video.

Individuals who represent their governments will receive the appropriate protection when visiting other countries. That's entirely irrelevant to Harry however.

Bit of a difference between passing through and wanting security whilst living full time contemplating your navel in a 16 bedroom mansion. And most airports tend to have security anyway, strangely so I’m not sure what the point of that argument is

What a shame 😬

When was the last time that happened ?

Some spread and flower sprinkles to elevate their day?

Interesting that Meghan has had nothing to say about the situation in her home state.

Not that I care to hear her vapid musings or anything, but it's interesting how the narrative used to be that she was just too vocal, modern and independent to be constrained by royal protocol. Her 'voice' was silenced. Now that she's found freedom however, she prefers to use her 'voice' not to speak up on the controversial, progressive subjects which 'the palace' supposedly 'forbid' her from doing, but instead to talk about raspberry 'spread' and flower sprinkles.

Water finds its own level, and this is hers.

Say she is in it for the fame and money? I don’t think that is all her motivation btw but say for the sake of the argument it is? How is she intrinsically worse than anyone else in the same position in the public eye? What has she done that’s so wrong?

I gather that Charles reads the papers and even he got jealous when Diana received more coverage than him. The royal family aren’t immune to caring about how they come across in public; that’s why they have a considerable number of PR staff.

It’s all very well not “lowering yourself” to earn a good income and staying aloof when you get millions handed to you on a plate at birth. It’s very easy then to look down on others who are prepared to graft for a living isn’t it? Gosh how vulgar it is to actually have to mention money! And earn it? The phrase from Downton Abbey “pray what is a weekend?” springs to mind.

Meghan was in a long running tv series for years. She grafted. The days are long on those sets. We haven’t heard of any diva like behaviour from that period of her life have we? It all starts funnily enough when she dares to marry a royal. Isn’t that a bit strange?

This is what Harry is complaining he didn't get when he moved to the US as a Private citizen, it is reserved for heads of state and diplomats.

Detailed Benefits of Internationally Protected Officials:

Immunity from Legal Proceedings:
They are generally immune from the jurisdiction of the host country's courts, meaning they cannot be sued or prosecuted for most acts, including those performed in their official capacity.

Inviolability:
Their persons, official premises (like embassies), and documents are protected from any interference by the host country. This means they cannot be arrested, detained, or searched without their consent, and their property cannot be seized or confiscated.

Customs and Tax Privileges:
They may enjoy exemptions from customs duties and taxes on certain goods, including those they import for personal use or for the official mission. Some also benefit from duty-free shopping opportunities.

Fiscal Privileges:
They are often exempt from certain taxes and social security payments.

Privileges in Respect of Labour Market:
Family members of internationally protected officials may be allowed to work in the host country without requiring the usual work permits or visas.

Simplified Procedures for Vehicles:
They may be able to obtain special license plates for their vehicles and may not be required to exchange their foreign driving license for a local one.

Freedom of Movement and Travel:
Internationally protected officials, particularly those on official visits, are generally granted freedom of movement and travel within the host country, necessary for performing their duties.

Protection under International Law:
International law, particularly the UN Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of Crimes Against Internationally Protected Persons, provides for the protection of these officials from threats, attacks, or other crimes.

Examples of Internationally Protected Officials:
Diplomatic Agents:
Ambassadors, ministers, and other diplomats accredited to a country are considered internationally protected persons and enjoy a wide range of privileges and immunities.

Heads of State and Government:
Presidents, prime ministers, and other top officials are also protected under international law, particularly when visiting foreign countries.

International Organization Representatives:
Representatives of international organizations, like the UN, may also enjoy some level of protection and privileges.

Meghan was in a long running tv series for years. She grafted. The days are long on those sets. We haven’t heard of any diva like behaviour from that period of her life have we? It all starts funnily enough when she dares to marry a royal. Isn’t that a bit strange?

Not at all.

She was basically a nobody in her 'Suits' days. 5th on the call sheet, or something like that. She was in no position to behave obnoxiously. If she'd acted like a diva she'd have been put in her place very quickly.

When she married Harry however, she had people literally bowing to her and calling her Your Royal Highness. She had an entire staff, which she did not pay for, catering to her every whim. Her position was pretty much guaranteed simply due to her new royal status, so there was no 'need' for her to be nice to people she considered beneath her.

And entirely different situation to being just another employee in a busy workplace, and one which could absolutely turn the head of someone who had always craved status.

Maybe it’s not water finding its level? Maybe it’s the onslaught of negativity that every activity of hers attracts, that has made her think twice, if she has held back, and you know, raising children, sometimes changes the number of hours a person works? But I forgot! Of course! She’s a terrible mother too apparently so that can’t be it!

She really can’t win can she? Damned if she goes out and helps when tragedy strikes in her region. And damned if she doesn’t.

Totally agree.

She went out to help when the fires raged through the county and she was absolutely pilloried by some
You would think she'd actually started them!
She can't win

Thanks for that incisive insight in to her psyche.

Which you have gleaned from, er, having never met her, or anyone on the set?

And this is what he wanted for his security cover

The responsibility for paying for security for international protected officials (like diplomats) can vary depending on the specific situation and the host country's obligations. Generally, the host country has a primary responsibility to provide security for diplomats and other protected officials within its territory. However, the official's home country might also contribute to security costs in certain circumstances.

He is as much eligible for any of these privileges as those of us posting on here, i.e. not eligible at all. Phone calls never happened as the rules are law and not subject to interference by anyone.

But like I said above, she said she only reads The Economist!

And surely you do things because you believe they are right? Not because of what randoms on internet sites you never read might say? She seemed to find the precious time and be able to endure the 'onslaught of negativity' when she posted a 4 year old video of herself wiggling her bum in the labour room. But not a word about the turmoil in her home state?

And to repeat, I really don't care to hear her banal thoughts so am happy enough for her to stick to her level. I'm just pointing out the change in narrative these past 5 years, which is quite striking to me.

So then the Palaces way, was best wasn’t it? Maybe they had learned a thing or two about how to deal with the press and that it isn’t worth being so outspoken in a public service role.

If only she had taken that advice.

Yeah, and rightly damned when she took a film crew to the Uvalde shooting tragedy and was shown there looking at the pictures to pick the best one/refilm.

@Plasticcheeeandgherkins I thought you were a Republican with a capital R as you wrote it. Why are you so concerned about the security of a royal who wants to be treated in a “more royal than the royals” way and his wife who only has the level of fame and recognition that she has because she married said royal?