The marching of the Kings californian grandkids

[Thedom]

Wish I could go back and find all those posters who predicted a Kardashian-esqe social media blitz at some point in H&M's future, wonder where are all the posters who we're so affronted by the very idea of that.

People magazine and all, the uber celeb magazine.

I guess needs must with the downfall of her business efforts, \oh look, here are my kids whose privacy we have decided to forego for the greater good of taking the heat off what a crap business woman I am'.

FWIW I agree about the snapshots we get in the media, even if Harry does indeed look like the wrath of god in them. You can "prove" anything by using selected images and naturally they'll choose the worst to suit

It's not so much what he looks like for some of us though - more his general behaviour and what he does and says, and as I've said so often I've honestly never known a genuinely happy person who carries on this way

Photos can be deceptive but Harry has had plenty of opportunity through interviews and other media to express exactly how he feels.

He is not saying how happy he is in California and how lucky he is to be living such a blessed and fulfilling life. He is saying that he is afraid for his safety and that of his family and that he misses “some parts” of the UK. It can’t be a happy state of mind to inhabit, however much he brought it on himself.

Are you saying that the whole of the world apart from @Spectre8 think they are lying manipulative grifters?

I hardly think that to be true given the bubble you are in on Mumsnet!

Well you’re a defender of them so I guess that makes two. 😁

I used to be quite the fan of Harry year’s ago but that’s when he seemed like a nice, jolly chap. I had no particular opinion of Meghan back in 2016. I thought she was lucky (😲) to land him as meeting princes is not an everyday thing, even for an actress.

Now I think they’re just very strange, very odd people.

Exactly, Ohpleeeese

He doesn't even have to yammer on endlessly about how privileged he is; just an occasional acknowledgement might help, but all we get these days (and this in his own words) is endless complaints and self pity

He couldn't even apologise for his own hideous racism but wheeled out a spokesman to "explain" for him, though he did once blame his privilege for not knowing how offensive his comments were - in other words referring to it only when it could be twisted to suit his narrative

I'd say he'd do well to follow the example of some of the Invictus vets who've really got something to feel sorry for themselves about, but that would take a very different mindset which he clearly doesn't possess

There’s plenty of film footage of him looking like thunder to see that jolly persona doesn’t seem to exist very much now. Even that Instagram photo of him with a swaddled baby Lily, he looks a bit out of it to my eyes (like he’s trying to compute what’s in front of him, not a crack of a smile while this little baby is gazing at him), why not post a more smiley photo, I’m sure there must have been more than one shot.

Harry seems like a very shallow, juvenile type so I'm sure there are times when he loves his lazy life in the sun.

However, it's clear that he desperately misses his old life and status. As a royal in Britain, he had a unique role and had paths cleared for him (often literally) everywhere he went, and was the centre of attention without even having to try. Now, he's just one among many C listers, and has to sing - or twerk - for his supper. At times he looks bewildered by the new world he's thrown himself into.

wow the people on these threads who can tell something just from a photo and decide that someone is unhappy.
most photos i see of them they look happy. of course seeing as they are human , there will be photos of them not looking happy. thats life as a human.

Yes and the media will hunt out the bad shots. They do that with lots of famous people
It lets them write a story from nothing

Who writes a book though complaining that they got one less sausage than their brother ? 😂

Have you spent all day with him to know that he IS happy ?

A face like a slapped arse!

have you spent all day with him to know he isn't happy?

I wonder if Harry is happy with all the Instagram posts or has a say in what's being posted ?

Oh for heaven's sake, the man's entire USP is his NOT being happy! Harry's "struggle", 5 years and counting.

And that their bedroom in one of granny’s castles was too small 😂

But what about film footage, that’s not so easy to pass off as other’s having ulterior motives to say he looks angry or glum. There’s been lots out there where he quite clearly, for whatever reasons, looks mightily pissed off.

You've not understood this have you?

Ah. "Snippets". It's always just "snippets", isn't it? That word used on here to defend H&M, every single thread.
No. It's not "snippets". They constantly share pictures, videos, interviews, etc etc. we see and hear about them a lot. In detail.
Harry does not come across as a contented, well balanced, well adjusted person.

He's such a victim. It must be absolutely exhausting.

This DM and it is comment - but interesting I think.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/royals/article-14793417/duchess-meghan-markle-sophie.html.

I thought H&M could have carved out such a great role for themselves, But they chose not to and that is their choice. But I do salute Sophie , who after a rocky start has gradually over many years by dint of hard work got to a place of influence - or at least highlighting some really important issues.

Totally agree @BasiliskStare . I hugely admire Sophie and wish she'd get more coverage for what she does. However, the impact that a younger "glamour" couple could have had with Harry's popularity (then) and Meghan being a fresh addition would have been immense.

They threw it all away and I can only think one or both of them vastly overestimated the hand that they were playing. I also think one or both of them thought they would automatically attract the publicity and perceived adoration Diana got, not realising that a) she was around in the RF a fair while and b) that it was a totally different situation. Also ignored that she got plenty of less than sympathetic press, even at the height of her fame.

Very true about Sophie, @BasiliskStare . She has been highlighting sexual violence against women, a challenging area, and one which requires a good skill set including empathy and resilience.
Neither Harry nor Meghan have those qualities, nor were apparently prepared to develop them. Sadly it just seemed to be about themselves and their perceived status and superficial popularity.

They are working to two different outcomes - for Meghan it is all about image and to boost the coffers.

Yes, exactly.