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How can Harry be so deluded?

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HiRen · 04/06/2025 17:38

The paranoia deepens

I don't really know what to conclude from this other than that Harry must feel the victim of a deep state conspiracy. Being a spoilt brat, and not understanding that he's there to serve his country rather than the country being there to serve him, can't help. Even if he did fear strategic delays, why would he jump to the conclusion that specific individuals have it in for him, rather than that there's a bigger picture to consider?

I just can't fathom the depths of misery and confusion he must experience on a daily basis. He must think his whole life was a lie until he met Meghan. I really do think things with Harry are much worse than they seem. Which puts an entirely different, and much darker, gloss on all of Meghan's utterings of her era of joy.

I honestly wouldn't want to be in their orbit. And I wonder whether those who remain in their orbit are desperate, whether as friends or employees. They're too much.

Harry and Meghan explored changing surname to Spencer amid children’s passport delays

Exclusive: source says couple feared unexplained wait was due to king’s opposition to their children bearing HRH title

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/jun/04/harry-and-meghan-explored-changing-surname-to-spencer-amid-childrens-passport-delays

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Tripthelightfantastical · 06/06/2025 07:23

GintyM · 05/06/2025 20:11

We are all born citizens, not subjects. The royal obsession serves no democratic purpose—it props up inherited power and distracts from real accountability.
Harry’s rejection of that system is framed as betrayal, but perhaps it’s clarity. When someone steps away from a gilded cage, we should ask why—not rush to defend the cage.

If only he would step away from the gilded cage instead of clinging on with all his might whilst denouncing it at every opportunity.

RandyRedHumpback · 06/06/2025 07:34

My2cents1975 · 06/06/2025 03:05

There seems to be a concerted effort to diminish Zara's accomplishments writing off her Olympic record as "well she had access to horses"

Well then, what is H's excuse? He had access to the same horses. Where is his Olympic medal?

Queen Elizabeth and grandchildren horse riding

It's not the first time from that poster.

IsoldeWagner · 06/06/2025 07:37

Tripthelightfantastical · 06/06/2025 07:23

If only he would step away from the gilded cage instead of clinging on with all his might whilst denouncing it at every opportunity.

It makes him money though. Plus he obviously loves being royal.

IsoldeWagner · 06/06/2025 07:38

RandyRedHumpback · 06/06/2025 07:34

It's not the first time from that poster.

Yes, Harry had far more privilege, yet hasn't achieved a fraction of Zara's success.

IsoldeWagner · 06/06/2025 07:40

Nagginthenag · 06/06/2025 06:57

Harry rejected the system so much he wanted 'half in, half out'. He rejected the system because he didn't have a big apartment in Kensington Palace like his brother and Nottingham Cottage and Frogmore Cottage weren't grand enough for him and the missus.

Yes, and they were offered a large KP apartment - the Gloucesters' one, because the D&D of Gloucester were going to downsize, but H&M chose to live at Windsor..

NewAgeNewMe · 06/06/2025 08:28

It’s glaringly obvious to anyone with a brain cell that the pair don’t want privacy. They are just becoming more bizarre in behaviour!

CurlewKate · 06/06/2025 08:32

My2cents1975 · 06/06/2025 03:05

There seems to be a concerted effort to diminish Zara's accomplishments writing off her Olympic record as "well she had access to horses"

Well then, what is H's excuse? He had access to the same horses. Where is his Olympic medal?

Queen Elizabeth and grandchildren horse riding

I’m not diminishing her accomplishments. Very few people achieve anything in the eventing world without plenty of money behind them for obvious reasons. William Fox-Pitt’s dad owned an investment bank and most of Derbyshire!

ThePoshUns · 06/06/2025 08:37

They seem to both be stuck in their teenage years.
Imagine going from being seen on the Buckingham Palace balcony to filming yourself twerking for a TikTok.
The pair have no dignity at all.

ThePoshUns · 06/06/2025 08:38

I predict the children will be fully photographed before Christmas, probably to sell something.

LowDownBoyStandUpGuy · 06/06/2025 08:40

GintyM · 05/06/2025 20:11

We are all born citizens, not subjects. The royal obsession serves no democratic purpose—it props up inherited power and distracts from real accountability.
Harry’s rejection of that system is framed as betrayal, but perhaps it’s clarity. When someone steps away from a gilded cage, we should ask why—not rush to defend the cage.

What about when someone ‘steps away from the cage’ and spends years complaining about how bad the cage is only to start huge legal actions demanding the same protection as the cage without having to live in it, complains that the people in the cage have stopped giving him money, gives his children the same titles of those living in the cage and suggests that they may one day choose to live in it?

Do we just call bullshit at that point because that’s what everything that Harry says smells like.

Mylovelygreendress · 06/06/2025 08:55

Would love to see South Park’s take on this .

ThePoshUns · 06/06/2025 09:16

Just leaving this here
https://x.com/hrrysgreysuit/status/1930764430293541043?s=46

Tripthelightfantastical · 06/06/2025 11:59

LowDownBoyStandUpGuy · 06/06/2025 08:40

What about when someone ‘steps away from the cage’ and spends years complaining about how bad the cage is only to start huge legal actions demanding the same protection as the cage without having to live in it, complains that the people in the cage have stopped giving him money, gives his children the same titles of those living in the cage and suggests that they may one day choose to live in it?

Do we just call bullshit at that point because that’s what everything that Harry says smells like.

I actually think there is a huge disparity between what one of them feels in relation to the other truly at heart. Therein lies the problem. Meghan hates the RF and Britain but loves the titles. She isn’t interested in having a relationship with Hs family. H misses his family and misses the kudos of being part of the RF, his country and his friends. They have different agendas but she’s convinced him to see things her way and in my view he is very confused and there’s a lot of cognitive dissonance. She has played on his paranoia and fear and feelings of inadequacy. She doesn’t have any taste or judgement and doesn’t care about his reputation or family relationships.He just doesn’t see this at all.

CurlewKate · 06/06/2025 13:48

IsoldeWagner · 05/06/2025 17:26

How come you're leaving the Sussexes out of your list? That's been their source of income and their way of life. Either milking connections or trashing the RF. Not very pleasant way of life is it?
The York family are good friends with the Sussexes. They seem like natural company for one another. Very similar.

Because nobody would even try to say that they weren’t trying to monetise their Royal connection. That’s a given!

TheAutumnCrow · 06/06/2025 13:56

KatherineParr · 04/06/2025 20:46

The HMPO guidance for recording titles on passports is actually available online and seems pretty prescriptive. It does sound like Harry was trying to do something outside of the guidance, which then caused delays.

I thought so too. I have my professional title(s) added to the ‘Observations’ page as per rules, so that my passport matches all my other documents (travel, licenses, permits, health) for visiting the Middle East for work and crossing borders.

It’s especially important as a woman in some Middle Eastern zones.

The rules and regs are clear to me 🫤 but apparently not to the Montecito Wunder Boy.

upinaballoon · 06/06/2025 14:05

Serenster · 05/06/2025 18:22

Diana’s oldest sister had herself dated Charles, and her other sister Jane got married just two months after her 20th birthday to a man 16 years older than her. He was already one of Queen Elizabeth’s private secretaries at the time. Diana was one of Jane’s bridesmaids, in fact. So meeting and marrying the older Charles was entirely within the family’s expectations…

(My own speculation, but given her older sister had dated Charles and Jane had married a senior courtier it’s quite possible Diana felt she had trumped both her sisters in her marriage!)

Diana's mother was about 12 years younger than her father. Her sister and her husband had more than 12 years between them. It wasn't a strange idea to Diana, to marry an older man.

There used to be plenty of talk that the two grandmas had done a bit of match-making, well more than a bit, between Charles and Diana.

DipsyDee · 06/06/2025 14:45

Weepixie · 06/06/2025 04:38

Step away from a gilded cage?

Not that he has stepped away. He’s hanging on to the gilded cage with all his might because he knows it’s where his best interests were served. That without the gilded cage he’s quite simply not able to successfully function in the real world financially.

Then there are all of the other reasons he won’t let go of those gilded bars.

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He can’t let go because what is he without it. It’s plainly obvious they thought they would be so much popular than the RF namely W &C but through their ill thought out pr they have slide further and further done the totem pole of relevancy. To go from being a duke and duchess on a world stage to peddling jam and twerking on the internet for clicks the downfall has been spectacular to witness. And it all could have been so different

ThePoshUns · 06/06/2025 14:48

It really is a massive fall from grace, but great to watch from the sidelines. They are top entertainment. A right pair of clowns.

HiRen · 06/06/2025 15:24

It's tragic, and a salutory tale for future generations. They could have had it all: relative freedom and extensive perks in return for minimal duties and a life of contented luxury. But they were greedy, and now they're not going to get any of what they want, except some money. Hope it keeps them warm at night.

This twerking video is going to end any hopes of being taken seriously by high end fashion brands (for Meghan), philanthropists (for both of them - how Dr Sophie Chandauka must be rolling her eyes as she gets on with her day job), and anyone they want to invest serious money in them, whether a streaming service or a private equity firm, or even just a celebrity friend seeking to piggy back off of their high visibility.

That's not because of what the video shows (although there is a segment of the population that will find it distasteful in and of itself: to each their own). It's because it was impetuous, ill thought through, incoherent, ill-timed - basically, unserious and childish.

All that quiet beseeching to young girls to take all the opportunities given to them, shine as achievers in their own right, to make sure that their voices are heard: this video isn't that. It's an embarrassment to that!

This episode, looking back on almost all their output since they left the RF, is actually completely on brand. This is who they are, and they themselves have put it out there for the world to see. It wasn't leaked. Meghan put it on her own Instagram. Harry ghost wrote his book. They both did the interview, they both did the Netflix series.

On the one hand she wants to be an HRH and Duchess and serious, fully empowered entrepreneur dropping pearls of business wisdom like manna from heaven; on another she is a victim of countless things; on yet another she is trying to position herself as a doyenne of Montecito quiet luxury (despite having only lived there for 3 minutes) with her quiet slow-life gardening era of joy where she appreciates the buzzing bees and nourishing her children's little moments; and then there's this video, posted to celebrate a child's birthday.

It's over. The emperor really does have no clothes. And they did it to themselves.

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Mylovelygreendress · 06/06/2025 15:35

The video really is their Ratner moment .

NewAgeNewMe · 06/06/2025 15:37

Possibly not, there is/was a video of William ‘dad dancing’ somewhere. But no way was it ass excruciating as the Sussexes.

GiveMeSpanakopita · 06/06/2025 15:40

Uricon2 · 05/06/2025 19:48

Henry VI cetainly appears to have had what we would call MH issues

My theory about Henry VI is that he was never catatonic at all but, in fact, in an early example of Weaponised Male Incompetence, he was pretending in order to get out of having to deal with, and take responsibility for, the complex political situations of his time.

I put forward this theory based on my own experiences of my ex's oddly catatonic non-responses when our eldest two were babies and i would try to wake him up for night feeds (or day feeds, or anything that resembled pulling his weight, really).

Like my ex, Henry VI was suspiciously able to pop out of his catatonia when it came to doing stuff he enjoyed - visiting monasteries for Henry, watching the football for my ex. There. I've solved the riddle. Where's my BBC TV series?

HiRen · 06/06/2025 15:44

Yes, their Ratner moment (for those of us old enough to know what that was).

William dad-dancing to Taylor Swift is consistent and on-brand for him.

It's not Meghan dancing that's the issue (for such a heavily pregnant woman, she can certainly move better than I could in the delivery room - I take my hat off to her!). It's that this self-posted video is in direct contradiction to her self-professed claims to be things that aren't compatible with being a woman at ease with twerking and grinding away, in a maternity delivery room, in celebration of a child's 4th birthday! The last time she referenced a child's birthday it was all demure floral dresses and tea parties with fine china and pastel coloured balloons and Victoria Sponge. Now she's grinding and twerking. Both totally fine in and of themselves (although the great royalists would say nay to the latter). Both incompatible with each other. One, in PR terms, is a lie. Clearly, given the dance was a private moment between husband and wife, the former.

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smilesy · 06/06/2025 15:45

NewAgeNewMe · 06/06/2025 15:37

Possibly not, there is/was a video of William ‘dad dancing’ somewhere. But no way was it ass excruciating as the Sussexes.

He was “dad dancing” at the Taylor Swift concert but he didn’t upload it to social media himself. Not really the same thing. There were other instances of Harry “dad dancing” when they were on one of their pseudo tours. I don’t have an issue with dad dancing. Lots of people do it. What they don’t do is upload it to social media when it took part in what should be a private setting 🤷‍♀️

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