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How can Harry be so deluded?

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HiRen · 04/06/2025 17:38

The paranoia deepens

I don't really know what to conclude from this other than that Harry must feel the victim of a deep state conspiracy. Being a spoilt brat, and not understanding that he's there to serve his country rather than the country being there to serve him, can't help. Even if he did fear strategic delays, why would he jump to the conclusion that specific individuals have it in for him, rather than that there's a bigger picture to consider?

I just can't fathom the depths of misery and confusion he must experience on a daily basis. He must think his whole life was a lie until he met Meghan. I really do think things with Harry are much worse than they seem. Which puts an entirely different, and much darker, gloss on all of Meghan's utterings of her era of joy.

I honestly wouldn't want to be in their orbit. And I wonder whether those who remain in their orbit are desperate, whether as friends or employees. They're too much.

Harry and Meghan explored changing surname to Spencer amid children’s passport delays

Exclusive: source says couple feared unexplained wait was due to king’s opposition to their children bearing HRH title

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/jun/04/harry-and-meghan-explored-changing-surname-to-spencer-amid-childrens-passport-delays

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IcedPurple · 04/06/2025 23:08

Tigger1895 · 04/06/2025 22:40

Oh well then, it must be true 🤣

Where do you imagine The Guardian obtained details about Harry's passport application? And about his own interpretation thereof?

Sunholidays · 04/06/2025 23:11

BigWillyLittleTodger · 04/06/2025 23:05

So according to that article Harry is going to challenge the high court ruling on his security case??

It wouldn’t surprise me. As it has been well established, he’s deluded.

IcedPurple · 04/06/2025 23:12

Madasahattersteaparty1749 · 04/06/2025 23:03

I think if they did it like Denmark retrospectively, Andrew would lose his Prince title. It does seem like most European monarchies are doing the same if not already done.

Andrew was son of the monarch at birth so he would keep his title. He's in the same position as Prince Joachim of Denmark. His children lost their princely titles but, as son and now brother of the monarch, he is still a Prince of Denmark.

Vespanest · 04/06/2025 23:13

The HRH would be much better if only used for ceremonial purposes when representing the crown. Or dropped completely, it's not like there is not other titles that can be used.

IcedPurple · 04/06/2025 23:15

Vespanest · 04/06/2025 23:13

The HRH would be much better if only used for ceremonial purposes when representing the crown. Or dropped completely, it's not like there is not other titles that can be used.

HRH is not a title. It's a style. And actually within the royal context it's very important and indicates membership of the royal 'club'. That's why David was so aggrieved at Wallis not getting it, and went to so much futile effort to try to change that.

HonoriaBulstrode · 04/06/2025 23:37

It would be unkind to take away the Duke of Kent's HRH, at his stage of life. He worked quietly for many years, and though he has given up most or all of his roles and patronages, he still turns out for some events, even though he's elderly and seems very frail.

Bigcat25 · 05/06/2025 00:08

MrsLeonFarrell · 04/06/2025 18:41

It's all of a piece with the 35 years of service comment. He really really doesn't understand how the Monarchy works, which is staggering for an actual member of the family.

Yes, He thinks he's been living a life of service since he was five, instead of raming into security guards on his trike.

RandyRedHumpback · 05/06/2025 00:29

Does he understand the whole surname issue for HRHs/princes/ princesses/descendants of QEII and Prince Phillip, and the Privy Council declaration of 1960? Clearly not. Otherwise he would have appreciated the legal headache he was presenting asking for the non-surname Sussex on a legal document. Not something that's going to be processed overnight by some poor sap at the passport agency. I am guessing the Guardian got half a story from the idiot.

He's such an arrogant prick. What does he envisage happening? Archie and Lily arriving at Buckingham Palace in 12-14 years' time, demanding access and to be given royal duties in a country they know nothing about (and of which at least one is not a citizen) and this being granted to them? No doubt he thinks it's their birthright and they must be allowed to have what their cousins have. Idiot.

It's an unclear bit of garble at the end of the article about the RAVEC case. He's intending to appeal the Court of Appeal ruling? He'll have to apply for leave to appeal to the Supreme Court. On what possible basis does he think leave is going to be granted? Idiot.

The prince considers that his mother, Diana, might still be alive if she had continued to have the security protection offered to other royals.

His mother did have the protection offered to other royals. Until she herself decided to sack it off after Martin Bashir told her a pack of lies about her security detail spying on her. The same Martin Bashir, illegally procured interview that Harry insists on using in his money making Netflix endeavours, against the express wishes of his uncle. Idiot.

JustSawJohnny · 05/06/2025 00:46

Mylovelygreendress · 04/06/2025 23:04

@JustSawJohnny

“I really could not give a shit about the lot of them but a bit of me does think fair play to Harry for getting the fuck out of what looks like a miserable, stifling life.”

Just a reminder that Harry didn’t want to leave this “ miserable stifling life”. He and/ or Meghan wanted to earn their own money whilst doing certain Royal duties and retaining the perks.
When the Late Queen said no , they flounced off.

IS that what happened, though?

Or is that just what you've been told by the Daily Fail?

Truth is we don't know and we never will.

RandyRedHumpback · 05/06/2025 00:56

JustSawJohnny · 05/06/2025 00:46

IS that what happened, though?

Or is that just what you've been told by the Daily Fail?

Truth is we don't know and we never will.

It literally says that they wanted this in their own exit statement of January 2020.

LaLaLaLavaChChChChicken · 05/06/2025 01:59

Harry thinking L&A can choose whether to be working royals, when he hates it and thinks there are people out to kill him and his family? Why would you put your children in that situation?

Classic case of a a very fat kid in a sweet shop. Wants to choose as much of everything he wants, all at once and in the order he wants it, with no awareness of what is good for his own health.

Weepixie · 05/06/2025 02:34

Or is that just what you've been told by the Daily Fail?

No. It’s what the world was told by Harry and Meghan in a statement.

My2cents1975 · 05/06/2025 02:36

JustSawJohnny · 05/06/2025 00:46

IS that what happened, though?

Or is that just what you've been told by the Daily Fail?

Truth is we don't know and we never will.

New PR. Get up to speed and read your client's Megxit declaration. This is beyond embarrassing!

LaLaLaLavaChChChChicken · 05/06/2025 03:08

I do wonder if this is a new PR thing to create a fun, not whingers narrative in an attempt to combat the plan to get Good Charlotte’s Lifestyle of the Rich And The Famous to number 1 for her birthday.

metellaestinatrio · 05/06/2025 05:03

MyDarlingWhatIfYouFly · 04/06/2025 18:26

But that’s not the same in the uk - via deed poll you can change your name in a matter of weeks - a few of my friends created a blended surname when they got married (so neither of their unmarried names nor double -barrelled) and it was straightforward.

If he wanted to he could have changed the whole family’s name via deed poll - he was clearly worried that there was something specific about the name Sussex and the delays were something to do with that. So to get around it he thought of using Spencer instead.

if you look at it without hate-filled glasses there’s really no drama here and yes, it is none of our business.

But Harry clearly wants it to be our business as he (or a “source” close to him, with his approval) has told The Guardian all about it…

Cleaningtroubles2 · 05/06/2025 05:45

Harry is going to have bigger things to worry about than passports and surnames soon. The truth is I don’t think he is going to be welcome in the US for much longer, so maybe they are working on an exit plan there too….. hence the need for passports.

Harry is unwell, he almost certainly has severe mental health difficulties that were well hidden and managed whilst he was living in the U.K. and had the royal team to care for him. Now, he is unmanaged, unravelling and spiralling.

There is no one at the steering wheel these days, and so we witness real time paranoia, delusions, emotions dressed up as facts, he seems unable to make sense of reality. Meghan has been instrumental in his downfall, not that he can see it.

I pity those children and the environment they are growing up in as a result of their mother’s blatant narcissism, and their father’s poor mental health. They don’t stand a chance, and it is heartbreaking. I hope they are getting support elsewhere in their lives..

Mylovelygreendress · 05/06/2025 06:00

Just for you @JustSawJohnny . In their own words .

How can Harry be so deluded?
MrsLeonFarrell · 05/06/2025 06:13

My2cents1975 · 05/06/2025 02:36

New PR. Get up to speed and read your client's Megxit declaration. This is beyond embarrassing!

The new PR push doesn't seem to have a great command of the facts, as told by Harry directly. But I suppose it's very on brand for the Sussexes.

MrsLeonFarrell · 05/06/2025 06:14

Twatalert · 04/06/2025 22:44

I think there is more than enough. Quite easy to spot for someone who's been abused and has lived with the consequences.

Evidence? Harry may belive that facts aren't as important as his emotions but I prefer to have evidence if accusing someone of something as awful as abuse.

sashh · 05/06/2025 06:21

MrsLeonFarrell · 04/06/2025 18:08

A passport is a legal document that people use for identification purposes. You can't apply for a passport using a name that doesn't match your birth certificate and it appears that Harry did that. The whole process is extremely tight these days.

This isn't Harry being treated differently from everyone else, it's him being treated exactly the same.

Yes you can. You just send the deed poll with it, in the UK at least.

Also many married women change their name when they marry.

I realise it can be more complicated with children and @Baital obviously had a hard time.

Weepixie · 05/06/2025 06:32

His mother did have the protection offered to other royals. Until she herself decided to sack it off

and got in a car driven at speed by a drunk and drugged up driver, whilst not wearing a seatbelt.

MrsLeonFarrell · 05/06/2025 06:37

sashh · 05/06/2025 06:21

Yes you can. You just send the deed poll with it, in the UK at least.

Also many married women change their name when they marry.

I realise it can be more complicated with children and @Baital obviously had a hard time.

I forgot about deed poll so didn't include it. I would re phrase to say you can't apply for a passport without all the necessary paperwork to prove you are who you say you are and have evidence of name changes. Harry obviously didn't do that.

2021x · 05/06/2025 06:39

Is anyone surprised that he trusts no one and is easy to manipulate.

Ever since he can remember the behaviour of his parents and his wider family had been exposed and made fun of by people

I mean there were constant rumours when I was a child that he was not Charles son, said by grown ups on the television and in the press. Thats going to screw with your head no matter who you are.

MrsLeonFarrell · 05/06/2025 06:40

Weepixie · 05/06/2025 06:32

His mother did have the protection offered to other royals. Until she herself decided to sack it off

and got in a car driven at speed by a drunk and drugged up driver, whilst not wearing a seatbelt.

It is extremely sad that Harry can't accept that his mother died as the result of a series of mistakes, as do most people killed in accidents. I think if he could accept this then he might find it easier to work through his grief the the resultant mental health struggled, and find some peace.

MrsLeonFarrell · 05/06/2025 06:43

2021x · 05/06/2025 06:39

Is anyone surprised that he trusts no one and is easy to manipulate.

Ever since he can remember the behaviour of his parents and his wider family had been exposed and made fun of by people

I mean there were constant rumours when I was a child that he was not Charles son, said by grown ups on the television and in the press. Thats going to screw with your head no matter who you are.

It isn't surprising he find it hard to trust people, I would think that every member of the royal family had had to learn how to distinguish between real friends and users. I believe there are stories about William testing friends to see if they can keep things confidential.

What is surprising is that Harry has felt it acceptable to breach the privacy of himself and everyone in his family. For someone who struggles with trust he isn't very trustworthy himself.

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