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Rebrand, Restructure, Harry and Meghan 2025 version

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Thedom · 25/05/2025 08:15

The Era of Joy didn't last long.

This is going to be interesting, it's going to be a full on PR onslaught for the next few months, and then we will have Harry launching his very own 'commercial project'.

Clearly an article straight from the Office of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex, giving an exclusive to the DM.

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Weepixie · 25/05/2025 11:15

All this size of a rescue boat highlights is that Harry and Meghan realise they’re sunk.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 25/05/2025 11:15

Baital · 25/05/2025 11:06

He said in the BBC interview that he had been in service for 35 years at the point he left the RF, aged 35.

I.e. he provides 'service' just by existing, he doesn't have to 'do' anything other than breathe.

An insightful post, Baital, and good to see this back with things actually said rather than silly rumours

It's only what I'd expect from a member of a family raised to believe their very existence is enough, and it may even BE enough for less questioning Brits, but good luck with that attitude in the US

Baital · 25/05/2025 11:16

Weepixie · 25/05/2025 11:15

All this size of a rescue boat highlights is that Harry and Meghan realise they’re sunk.

But it's more of the same... ANOTHER team of PR and comms advisers.

Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting to get a different result...

MayaKovskaya · 25/05/2025 11:16

NautilusLionfish · 25/05/2025 11:12

They are not replicating royal household. They have put in place a largely communications and PR, campaign team. How DM interprets that it vert different from reality.

So a large, PR/Comms team.
How is that necessary for someone selling pancake mix and jam and her somewhat ineffectual husband?
They're copying the royals.

Weepixie · 25/05/2025 11:16

MayaKovskaya · 25/05/2025 09:45

So, basically - correct me if I'm wrong - a huge, expensive team to promote them as celebrities and help them to get more money?
Trading on titles and royal connections? Keeping them in the headlines?
What kind of desperation is this?

The same kind of desperation we’ve had up till now and that they’re now admitting to.

MayaKovskaya · 25/05/2025 11:17

Baital · 25/05/2025 11:16

But it's more of the same... ANOTHER team of PR and comms advisers.

Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting to get a different result...

Mmmm, now... what's that a definition of? 🤔

MayaKovskaya · 25/05/2025 11:19

Weepixie · 25/05/2025 11:16

The same kind of desperation we’ve had up till now and that they’re now admitting to.

Remember... they're "not replicating the Royal Household", no indeed. They're just trying to make money from pancake mix. That's all!

Puzzledandpissedoff · 25/05/2025 11:19

Baital · 25/05/2025 11:16

But it's more of the same... ANOTHER team of PR and comms advisers.

Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting to get a different result...

But seemingly with more people doing it this time, Baital?

Never mind ... when some of them end up walking or rocking in corners, at least it might leave a balance left over to carry on the work Confused

MayaKovskaya · 25/05/2025 11:21

Puzzledandpissedoff · 25/05/2025 11:15

An insightful post, Baital, and good to see this back with things actually said rather than silly rumours

It's only what I'd expect from a member of a family raised to believe their very existence is enough, and it may even BE enough for less questioning Brits, but good luck with that attitude in the US

It's worked though, hasn't it? It works in the USA. They are only where they are because Harry is Royal. Why are they so famous and rich? Because Americans appear to love it, pay them and support them.
It's not the UK.

TheAutumnCrow · 25/05/2025 11:22

Baital · 25/05/2025 11:14

Since birth, apparently!

Although I think he means service to his country 😃

Yeah he’s been wanging on a lot lately about ‘being born into this’, on top of previously pushing the kids’ ‘birthright’ crap around their titles.

The new (confused and confusing) narrative seems to be that there is No Escape Ever from ‘being born into this’ and he must be richly compensated for that and the fact that his mere existence constitutes service and embodies actual royalty - and, to paraphrase the remarkable personage of Rebekah Vardy, he wants paying for that.

CathyorClaire · 25/05/2025 11:22

I think the key point H misses over and over is that the men in grey were absolute experts at quietly clearing up his worst messes and selling him as the cheeky chap prince.

Since he found freedom and lost their protection we've all seen the reality of the nasty, petulant manchild lurking beneath the surface.

All the clever PR people in the world can't change that.

Pleasealexa · 25/05/2025 11:22

I don’t understand where this belief comes from that they think they have anything to say that people need to hear

I think Harry more than any Royal really believed the hype that he was the most popular royal. My guess is he believed it was intrinsically him that created his popularity, not the fantastic opportunities the Royals gave him and the safeguarding of his image.

He bit the hands of those who made him popular i.e the Royal household. I don't think he fully realises how unlikeable he is and everything he has done since flouncing has been negative..from the "freedom flight" video to the latest interview he just reveals how entitled and out of touch he is. He talked of 35 years of service. Most of that when living as a Prince, in castle and having photos taken at formal events. Is that what he defines as service?

I don't think he will ever be humble enough to apologise for his behaviour.

MayaKovskaya · 25/05/2025 11:23

CathyorClaire · 25/05/2025 11:22

I think the key point H misses over and over is that the men in grey were absolute experts at quietly clearing up his worst messes and selling him as the cheeky chap prince.

Since he found freedom and lost their protection we've all seen the reality of the nasty, petulant manchild lurking beneath the surface.

All the clever PR people in the world can't change that.

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Good points 👍

MayaKovskaya · 25/05/2025 11:24

TheAutumnCrow · 25/05/2025 11:22

Yeah he’s been wanging on a lot lately about ‘being born into this’, on top of previously pushing the kids’ ‘birthright’ crap around their titles.

The new (confused and confusing) narrative seems to be that there is No Escape Ever from ‘being born into this’ and he must be richly compensated for that and the fact that his mere existence constitutes service and embodies actual royalty - and, to paraphrase the remarkable personage of Rebekah Vardy, he wants paying for that.

Those children are being fully prepared for a royal life. Those titles were selected and are used for a reason.

cremebruleee · 25/05/2025 11:26

AliasGraced · 25/05/2025 11:06

It’s staggering that they still have so much self importance. He’s really struggling to accept that he’s a washed up has been.

I don’t even think he can be referred to as a ‘washed up has been’. He’s never really been anything, other than a royal doing royal things like all the others. Mostly meet and greets with the ‘people’. Not a one hit wonder pop star wanting a come back, not an aging actor missing out on leading man role, not an author with one successful book. He’s never had anything interesting to actually offer.

Pleasealexa · 25/05/2025 11:26

Since he found freedom and lost their protection we've all seen the reality of the nasty, petulant manchild lurking beneath the surface

Perfectly said..he is too old to genuinely change who he is and any alteration in his behaviour won't be believed.

NormaMajors1992coat · 25/05/2025 11:28

HonoriaBulstrode · 25/05/2025 10:40

.....and post their vitriol.

Bingo!

If recent rumours are true about Netflix continuing a contract with Meghan alone....

I can't see why they would. What has she got to offer, when NF can afford to pay for people of genuine talent and achievement.

I think maybe to keep her on board in case of potentially juicy stuff in future - so another series which includes the DC, or reconciliation with the RF, or divorce.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 25/05/2025 11:36

MayaKovskaya · 25/05/2025 11:21

It's worked though, hasn't it? It works in the USA. They are only where they are because Harry is Royal. Why are they so famous and rich? Because Americans appear to love it, pay them and support them.
It's not the UK.

Well it's certainly true that it has worked, if only because of his curiosity value, but I wouldn't say it's working any more now they're both seen to be empty vessels

As PPs have said PR can do a lot, but I'm not convinced they can turn this round - and that's supposing the pair were even prepared to listen to their advisers

jeffgoldblum · 25/05/2025 11:37

CathyorClaire · 25/05/2025 11:22

I think the key point H misses over and over is that the men in grey were absolute experts at quietly clearing up his worst messes and selling him as the cheeky chap prince.

Since he found freedom and lost their protection we've all seen the reality of the nasty, petulant manchild lurking beneath the surface.

All the clever PR people in the world can't change that.

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Indeed!
he has been busy for the last few years telling “his” truth and showing us who “he” really is !
now we know and don’t like what we see , he apparently wants us to forget and time travel back to the facade the apparently “dreadful “ men in grey fashioned for him!

sorry no ! , you can’t suddenly expect people to suddenly all suffer from mass amnesia because you don’t like the outcome.

LittleBearPad · 25/05/2025 11:39

MayaKovskaya · 25/05/2025 11:24

Those children are being fully prepared for a royal life. Those titles were selected and are used for a reason.

But not a real royal life, a fake one.

Poor children.

flapjackfairy · 25/05/2025 11:44

Thedom · 25/05/2025 08:24

and they are off ....

'Harry wears the trousers, not Meghan'

https://archive.md/4Kg98

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Well no one is going to believe that for a start but anyway shouldn't they be operating as a marriage of equals ..After all theirs is the greatest love story ever.

Pleasealexa · 25/05/2025 11:45

LittleBearPad · 25/05/2025 11:39

But not a real royal life, a fake one.

Poor children.

With their Dad rocking the in corner saying "I was a Prince once, honest"

The children might not even get invites to royal events as Harry has said he won't take them to the UK since they won't be safe.

PrettyFlyforaMaiTai · 25/05/2025 11:48

Pleasealexa · 25/05/2025 11:22

I don’t understand where this belief comes from that they think they have anything to say that people need to hear

I think Harry more than any Royal really believed the hype that he was the most popular royal. My guess is he believed it was intrinsically him that created his popularity, not the fantastic opportunities the Royals gave him and the safeguarding of his image.

He bit the hands of those who made him popular i.e the Royal household. I don't think he fully realises how unlikeable he is and everything he has done since flouncing has been negative..from the "freedom flight" video to the latest interview he just reveals how entitled and out of touch he is. He talked of 35 years of service. Most of that when living as a Prince, in castle and having photos taken at formal events. Is that what he defines as service?

I don't think he will ever be humble enough to apologise for his behaviour.

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It’s crazy isn’t it. I used to really like Harry, he was fun silly and informal. I was so excited for their wedding (I had a little tea party and everything) and had big hopes for them. Meghan would bring a modern perspective and Harry would still be the cheeky prince. They could have had it all. Yet it was clearly all a facade.

The 2018 me could not have predicted the shit show and loss of respect that would happen less than two years later. They could have been pioneers but instead they are now seen as grifting victims and entitled whingers, universally mocked and the butt of contemporary popular culture’s joke.

The Royal PR machine really saved his arse at the time only to be derided when he felt they weren’t doing enough to clean up his (and Meghan’s) messes.

cheezncrackers · 25/05/2025 11:56

cremebruleee · 25/05/2025 10:53

I don’t like either of these two but I think Meghan’s As Ever thing obviously looks very swish, though it’s massively cringe from a uk perspective, but it appeals to a certain demographic of people,’ mostly middle class, conservative Americans. I think she could be quite successful with it if she kept it a bit lowkey and relaxed, focuses more on the guests than herself (and stops putting dried weeds on everything). But what on earth does Harry think he’s going to be selling us!? He has no charm or charisma, he’s not particularly attractive, he’s never really got anything interesting to say. I don’t know who he would appeal to. I’m so confused about how they go about things. They have two young children, more money than a hell of a lot of normal people and could be enjoying their family, travelling, playing the sports they like, a lovely home, some lowkey charity work, without the constant trying to promote themselves as massive celebrities. It’s really odd.

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The money they have is a drop in the bucket for what Meghan wants. She wants to be stinking rich, not tens of millions of dollars rich, which they could easily spend in their lifetime, given their lifestyle. She wants to be Oprah rich, Kardashian rich, own private jet, hundreds of millions of dollars rich.

It's been said over and over by people who are familiar with her, how focused on money she is. From the outside, I feel they've peaked in terms of their ability to make money, because what else have they got to sell, apart from stuff they won't want to, like filming a no-holds-barred a reality show? But Meghan isn't going to step out of the limelight by choice, oh no, from her POV I reckon she feels she's only just getting started. She wants to be richer than William and Catherine, for sure and Harry would just love to stick it to those two.

PullTheBricksDown · 25/05/2025 12:18

Thedom · 25/05/2025 08:24

and they are off ....

'Harry wears the trousers, not Meghan'

https://archive.md/4Kg98

Edited

Yeah, that will convince precisely no one. Nothing wrong with the woman being the leader or the dynamic one in a partnership of course. But the idea that Harry is a bit of a spare part in his own life has clearly struck a nerve. Pity there is no evidence at all to support this idea of him 'wearing the trousers' 😄

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