Confessions of a Female Flounder part 2

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I've embarrassed for Meghan saying that her arranging takeaway food on a plate is the same thing as what Figs Heather Hasson has done 😬

He's certainly not in control now, if so...

I'd heard he'd expected Cressida to stump up for long distance wedding plane fare etc.

Oh dear. I have been over-optimistic about H's character.

To my knowledge, there are no examples of throne-sharing by any monarchy in the world.

In the past, Mary II and William III, cousins, married couple and joint sovereigns. But that was for reasons of state, not to placate a whinging spare. Mary was the nearest female Protestant heir, William was the nearest male Protestant heir.

If you have two Kings, both with first born sons, who gets to be the Official Heir? It’s Richard III all over again.

By the way, the Earl of Pembroke rumours are on my X timeline again. But they have the wrong Henry Herbert. Admittedly Henry Earl of Pembroke’s son looks like Aitch. But the young Diana with dark haired man-they-call-Pembroke is actually The Hon Harey Herbert, brother of the Earl of Carnarvon and husband to Clodagh McKenna.

Good point. However, they were married so the line of succession wasn't made complicated.

Tom M Snr effectively became a cash millionaire - looking at inflation/exchange rate re:1990. In material Cali that meant his/the families status rocketed overnight. This gave Meghan a taste of high life & whetted appetite for more & must have changed whole family dynamic a great deal.

In any organisation, you fit into your allocated slot and learn the business slowly, starting with your own role. Listening and learning from all levels of the organisation to see how the various organisational components fit together and work together. Being open to feedback is key. Knowing what your staff's role is and what falls outside their role and respecting their professionalism is key. How to work effectively as part of a team and managing a team as you rise in the organisation is key as well.

I watched Tom Cruise's movie latest movie which had awesome special effects and the biplane scene as well as the submarine scene were truly epic. Later that evening I watched a behind the scenes videos where Tom talks about movie making and of course the algorithm threw up several more in a row, and with a cup of tea in hand I watched a few videos (and came out feeling very sympathetic towards Tom's mom who endured her son flinging himself off the roof and out of trees in his early childhood stunts).

Tom made the effort to go beyond being an actor and shadowed the directors on his early movies. He spent time with each and every department on each movie and took extensive notes. So, when Tom moved from being an actor to being a director/producer he had an in-depth understanding of the business of movies.

A-list success is hard. It is earned. And there are no shortcuts.

She was ashamed of him and he played right into her hands by doing that daft photo shoot.

Why else would they not have paid the man even a brief courtesy visit during their courtship/leading up to the unfortunate choice he made?

Or fly him over to meet H and the rest of the family? I have said it before on these threads but Charles and HMQ really screwed up by not getting to know M’s family earlier and bringing them into the fold. That might have given an insight into M and an understanding of how different her background was and therefore how difficult it was going to be for her to settle in.

I agree with you JSMill. I can’t fathom what the RF were thinking when they let the ball drop the way they did and even from the old fashioned angle of respect, showing respect to people marrying into your family, it was a very poor show all round.

Harry should have been told to get his backside into gear, make face to face contact with TM and then get him to London for tea with Prince Charles and Camilla. He should have accompanied him over the Atlantic and treated him with courtesy and great care for the few days he’d have been here. But instead it just became even more bizarre as the days went on.

Re the money - I think H&M probably set off with different ideas about how much money is "enough". Now Harry with his - I'm guessing £40m between granny , mum and great granny - anyway even if it is less than this - always had enough money because he would be given / granted a house on favourable terms , holiday homes, security galore to use etc , BUT this was with him being a part of the WRF. So he's never had to worry about money. M wanted I suspect to replicate all that but her idea of that glamorous and not having to worry about money lifestyle is rather keeping up with the Williams or the Winfreys or the Perrys - who are a lot richer but they have made it themselves. & just maybe she is beginning to realise making all that money is not that easy - even if you are married to a Prince of the Realm. Even though they are rich I think what they've given up is financial security. ( which sounds ludicrous I know given how much they have ) but I think think financial security comes from knowing you have enough for your needs and preferably a bit more and a lifestyle you are happy with and to many fortunate people this comes with more life experience , wisdom whatever. I may have explained that badly .

I think he’s surprisingly gauche & to put it kindly - & easily influenced/led by the nose. M knew this & he’s unlikely to have impressed or been well received by PC/Camilla/Her Maj. A shame as my feeling is he’s essentially a good hearted man, Doria possesses inherent grace, class, intelligence & poise however…

My point was that she didn't talk over the anthem, which was implied in the previous post.

On what do you base your comments about Doria? Is it just that she hasn’t said or done anything awful? Because that’s a pretty low bar.

Re: TM Sr too, as someone said upthread, the whole ill advised suit fitting played into M’s hands. Arguably too, so did releasing the letter, she knew he would. Question is why didn’t he realise? Or was he tempted by cash? That large lottery win & a decent job should have set him up for life.

Well she’ played things gracefully & wisely to date & seems supportive (?)

Reading the article above, it seems TM tried to use his winnings to help all his children. I'm glad about that because if the emphasis had been entirely on supporting Meghan as it has sometimes seemed, Thos Jnr and Samantha (nightmares though they are) would have had cause to be aggrieved.

I do feel a bit sorry for Thos Snr and think as others have said above it is because his face didn't fit (coming from Meghan), because his "betrayal" with the pap shots was really not that bad. If things had been handled differently with him from the get go, I don't think it would have happened.

IIRC, TM said he released part of the letter to the DM after Meghan's 5 friends had already leaked the content to the press. He wanted to give his side. He said there is more to the letter, but he won't release it. It's clear from MM's emails with Jason Knauf that the letter was intended to the leaked.

I agree, it’s hard not to feel sorry for him as he took financial advice too & tried to invest. I agree treating the children equally showed love & kindness.

I do think he’d need to be continually well supported the leaking of the letter was ill advised & he seems very naive, the Press would have been permanently at his gate. He’s also very short of money & they’d be cash temptation.

Re the lottery win: the odious Thomas Jnr. is the one who said there was a lottery win, and I am pretty sure he subsequently claimed he made that up. I think it's in Tom Bower's book, Revenge, that there's no record of a win.

I think HLMTQ did encourage Harry to fly over to see TM. It's been reported enough to make me think there may be truth.in that One thing I do think is M should have had no reason to be ashamed of her father. They were apparently offering to have a suit made where he would have looked smart , if that were the reason , & if I had to guess & I just don't believe QEII , the now KC and Camilla and others would not have utterly greeted him and mingled with with him perfectly and politely

I hadn’t got that context, that’s horribly manipulative if so. For the most part, on the surface at least, TM Snr, comes across very badly. If H, and I knew arch manipulation afoot like that I’d be very uncomfortable & deeply concerned about my partner’s integrity.

I agree regarding TM and I’m of the opinion there was enough about him to leave a favourable impression on PC and the family even for being a decent man. But as for Doria - still waters run deep and all that.

That’s some fib, if so & why lie? But anything’s possible. If not, maybe TM Snr really get into debt over M’s private school fees & Uni fees? A lottery win would explain the funding of private school for M but not for Sam & TM Snr?

I don't think Samantha and Tom Jr went to the same schools as Meghan. They mostly grew up with their mother in another state and are much older than Meghan. Thomas was an Emmy award winning lighting director on several mainstream TV shows. He would have been earning very good money in that role.