Do you think some of you are addicted to hating Harry and Meghan?

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More and more these manic threads are popping up on mumsnet, wild posts and theories and then hundreds of posts brimming with excitement about catching them out or exposing them. It’s like a game or a hunt. Have many of you crossed the line from interested to addicted?

I'm going to confirm that, @jeffgoldblum . Natural part of the conversation, and as @RandyRedHumpback says so beautifully, part of the wonderment of pregnancy.
None of my friends or family said anything as racist as Harry, needless to say.

Thanks @FenellaFeldman🙏

Yes, Mama, regarding this skin-colour conversation, I agree that people have to choose whether they believe H&M, or not: as for "which side" they believe, there is only the one side given, with the RF remaining schtum on this question (unless you count Prince William's "We're very much NOT a racist family"[.

The thing is, only a small minority on this board appear to believe the couple who are proven liars and shit-stirrers. Even without H&M's terrible record as reliable rapporteurs, I would ask myself whether any senior member of the RF is likely to be racist, and the answer's surely "no", so there's already that... but even if the answer were "yes", would that senior member of the RF be stupid enough to voice racist thoughts, which they knew to be wrong and which could so easily damage the RF's standing in the world. Again, "no".

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@shockthemonkey , good points. To quote Cher Horowitz; "As If"

Very much agree, why Charles hasn’t done anything is really disappointing, all his talk of slimming down the monarchy appears to be just that, talk. Queen Margrethe actually removed titles from her grandchildren who were not in the direct line of succession recently, Charles could have followed suit but I suspect as has been reported , he hates confrontation and is probably scared of the reaction from Montecito, Harry and Meghan would go nuclear like we have never seen before, so he is kicking the can down the road and leaving it to William to decide what to do when the time comes.

I wonder if he’ll leave it till he’s almost on his death bed so he doesn’t have to deal with the fall out.

Charles will never remove the titles from the Sussex duo or their children. He won't. He's just not a vindictive person, in spite of all they have done to warrant it.

It’s possible I suppose but I just don’t see him doing it, the ridiculous Prince and Princess of the United Kingdom to two American children who will likely never set foot in this country is preposterous, in other European monarchies those in succession have to be educated and reside in the country, this is one thing Charles does have the power to change but he chooses not to.

Also, he's seen how the pair of them react to fairly trivial stuff, and how they wallow in victimhood. He probably doesn't want all that fall out.

I don’t think it’s vindictive to remove titles, it should have been done before now, however it would be viewed as vindictive by the fans and certain media outlets, even though it’s the way of most modern monarchies.

Well yes, that's the point. It would be perceived as vindictive and we can just imagine their reaction, supporters' reactions and that of certain media outlets. That's just too risky.

Haven't kept up with the thread, so this will probably be a non sequitur: I think when Harry said he only gets security if he's invited to the UK, he means that he will only get the level and type of security he personally thinks is adequate / that he used to get / that his brother and father get, if he stays in a royal residence, and that can only happen on invitation (he can't book in and out of BP or St James's Palace like a hotel).

He's such a knob. My uber-spoilt SIL tends to this type of thought process, seeing only what she wants to see, ignoring the rest, and putting whatever spin she deems necessary to make her case on the bits she's selected. She's INSUFFERABLE, and DH and I just walk away and don't engage with her when she starts. We let her parents deal with her (after all, they let her get away with this). I suppose Charles doesn't have the freedom to do deal with his son in the same way, what with him having to toe whatever lines as the monarch.

I think that's exactly what it means when he says he only gets security when invited because RAVEC were quite clear he will always get security if deemed necessary by current intelligence.

He can also always pay for extra private security to add cars to his motorcade if he wants to.

So really he's saying his personal assessment of his security risk is better than RAVEC's, notwithstanding his own request for access to intelligence that RAVEC has but he doesn't (make it make sense!). He thinks he is permanently at the highest possible risk (by dint of being Charles's son?), disbelieving RAVEC who may say there's no intelligence that he's at any risk so a single bodyguard will do (or may say there are credible threats so he needs the full shebang).

He's just a spoilt man-child. So unattractive.

He's also a complete idiot if he genuinely believes he's in danger to be telling everyone all the time that he doesn't have adequate security.

William and Kate's security is often very very low key, that you might assume they are not there sometimes. When Kate walked to the Sarah Everard tribute you could easily have missed the protection officer who was walking behind her.

William was able to go for a jog in Central Park in NYC with I assume minimal security presence because no one noticed him.

I wonder if the protection officers draw lots to decide who has to go for the early run this morning?

So most people would assume Harry had the same security as William if he didn't keep moaning about it all the time and letting all the bad people know how unprotected he is.

I agree.

Also worth noting he has never-addressed form for various animal abuses while posing as an environmentalist.

ETA to add further form for travel hypocrisy.

Yes I agree. He wants the suite of cars and the traffic being stopped and the armed PPOs.

Yes. And he also thinks he needs protection from the press, which RAVEC wouldn't take into account.

He just needs a good, experienced, sober driver and to make sure he puts his seatbelt on.

he is kicking the can down the road and leaving it to William to decide what to do when the time comes.

It's not the only can he's kicking down the road for his heir to deal with.

C3 is a weak and vacillating monarch. Yet another poster boy for a republic 😁

He wants the suite of cars and the traffic being stopped and the armed PPOs.

He wants IPP...

Although the behaviour of Meghan and Harry and his dignity throughout has actually made him go up in my estimation.
I think H&M are bigger poster boys for a Republic, to be insistent on royal when doing no duties and not even living here. Also going to court complaining that they're not royal enough!
Talk about entitled and greedy.

I think H&M are bigger poster boys for a Republic

Not fussy.

Open to any of 'em stretching for the team 🙂

How do you know he’s being dignified? For all we know he’s chewing the Aubusson behind closed doors!

Because he's not going on tv giving interviews moaning, giving various whining magazine interviews, a Netflix series complaining, whinging on whatever outlet would listen,.
Unlike Harry.
Dignified silence, just getting on with stuff.

I sometimes wonder if that was Harry's strategy! To be so greedy, lazy, foolish and deceitful, wanting ever more royal privilege! Maybe he's a double agent 😅